I rewatched some scenes from TF1. From a CG-wise point of view, Revenge was spectacular, but simply put the original Transformers scene were better executed. I can easily say I enjoy TF1's final scene better against TF2's.

I loved how they made it suspenseful. Bonecrusher grappling with Optimus on the highway, Starscream firing missiles, Bumblebee injured, Megatron snapping Jazz in half, then Optimus against Megatron. Very nice. And when they managed to gun down Brawl and Blackout....very nice.

I don't get the same thing with the Egypt fight in Revenge. The best thing was basically Bumblebee vs Rampage, that was pretty cool, but the rest was forgettable. The forest fight was good and probably the best, but it was pretty sad to have a climax that was, well, underwhelming. I wish they put the forest fight at the end

Which doesnt change the fact that they are NOT brainless Tincans/robots. Some brainless viewers should just stay off touching Transformers as the whole idea is not an award winning movie. The whole idea is a robots pwn robots movie, who cares about storyline. In the end, its robots pwning robots again regardless its shitty or not.

To those with taste, please dont be the first idiots to go rushing over and watch the 3rd movie and end up whinning that this is not the Transformers i used to watch when i was 3yrs old.

Utter waste of money IMO, watching it once is enough to disappoint me so badly. The 1st movie was light years better than the second 1.

Pretender = FAIL
FALLEN die in 2 minutes = FAIL
Take spare parts for ownage = FAIL
Sector Seven Agent BUTT? = EPIC FAIL

jz finish watch the movie 2nd time... 1st times watch was very excited so never think abt their plot hole, 2nd time watch jz find out tat the storyline were getting rush & abnormal ... the things i dun like abt the movie was..
1. too much unneccessary charater inside the scene jz like Mikaela & leo...
2. dun like the 'others' sound effect jz like shouting of "SAMMMMMM....." "OPTIMUS..."
3. sudden end up from city into jungle from the sam rescure scene.
4. Twins was MIA after the battle with the Devastator.
5. too little scene apperance for other new autobot & decepticon...
5. did u guys notice tat some very important false point abt Devastator apperance inside the movie? since the Devastator was combining by 7 construction vehicles, as i know Mixmaster, Rampage & Long Haul was part of the combination, so how come they were able on other fighting scene in single robot mode while they hav combined?? if u guys flash back into movie, Mixmaster wit third "battle mode" which appears to be a gun like emplacement were defeated by Jetfire. the Rampage was fighting with BB, then the Long haul (green truck wit big tire on the back) was actually in pursuit with Starscem for the searching sam!! so they oso hav twins in the constructioncon??! sure some of u guys will notice tis point....

after all, is still enjoy to watch if u dont mind to turn off your brain to think abt their origin...

i've been hearing alot of complaints about the lack of character development by friends and family... but what they fail to notice is that there are so many characters in this movie that if each character had its own development, the movie would be 10 hours or more... 

We the TFers need more people like you to teach others a lesson!! haha way to go !!

I just love this movie to bits. It's drawing so much $$$ in and yet so much hate. Beautiful.
I turned on the first movie the other day ... it sucks now tat I've seen ROTF, it'll never be the same. TF1 sucks and bores.

I still cringe at the worse humor from the irritating parents and robots hiding around the house. ROTF's humor is much more meaningful, not forced

and the part with the sector 7 agent and the mexican guy was just a mess where I did laugh upon the hillarious scene but at the same time I think the scene is not really suit with the havoc and chaos that is going around

although full of toilet jokes...but guys gotta admit it made the whole theater laugh rite?me,my friends and ppls around us laughed.although some jokes are really not necessary,and i gotta admit it went too far,but still it hlped cheer us up a bit

jz my 2 cents.dn shoot me

well unless some or many who are expecting this to be some serious movie

If it makes you feel any better... a friend told me that when he watched it, during the robot-humping scene... the whole cinema went 

yes tht scene.we laugh out of it as well

but after the show end evry1 comment tht scene was rly s-h-i

I watched Back to the Future for the first time in years a few days ago, and I wonder why the new summer blockbusters lack the sophistication and intelligence so abundant in that movie. Is it because it reflects the new generation of audience?

Actually I was more like wondering why we have stooped so low.

Cant be help, seeing ppl are going for the movie for so many times in the cinema, why would they even care?

Actually i dont think the toilet jokes is the worst, the one with the mother misbehaving around the campus is something i really cant stand. I mean wtf that scene was included? It all non relevent and its feel so like a cheap humor... I was like "Mat yeh sie arrr??"

I re-watched the Spiderman trilogy too these few days and it was still one level higher than the Transformers franchise. 1st one was great, but the sequel brought it down together.

ah....i lupa d name edy...hehe
but sure its optimus ka??
man....d old days really cool wor...
and i was like want to cry seeing sumone adapting my favorite cartoons to silver screen...
and i will not condemn or say anything bad to Bay cuz he deliver d best of Transformers....hehe
by d way i'm 30...so it really enjoice watching my old cartoon wor....serious...i almost cry when watching d 1st tho...hahaha    

i tot joke meant to be stupidity?

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Added on July 7, 2009, 9:19 am

yeah true...

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Added on July 7, 2009, 9:24 am

yeah..why so serious...movies meant to be entertain...even is stupidity or worst...it still fulfill its destiny...i still love the lame toilet joke...especially the guy face...seeing the guy face i wanna laugh adi...well..cant compare a 2 hours++ movies with long series of cartoon la....

but when i watch the movies..i would say..the all people is laughing...no matter how...majority is still laughing...

Yup true enough. It serves its purpose to entertain when majority is laughing while maybe some minority was too inteligent to comprehend with the jokes or humours. Well i do notice this in every movie i watched in cinema, there must be a group of inteligent beings that do not laugh.

To me, when i get into the cinema for a movie i will be in relax mode and make the complex thinking after the movie. Just enjoy the whole movie since i am paying for it. Why getting angry packaged with the rm10-12 movie? Already had enough pressure during my work and cinema time is to relax and popcorn time. Even the movie gets boring, i'll just sleep lol..

How do you define something to be serious? Serious movies must have intelligent humour? Wait i watched V for Vendetta, Independence Day, Saving Private Ryan, not sure you called it serious movies but they do contain average laymen jokes. Can you provide me an intelligent joke then? cause i might have been ignorant if i had came across any?

Low quality audience deserve, low quality movie/humour? so you are dissing the people for not sharing your perspective? so if you enjoy Walls Cornetto,and i and the majority like Nestle Mat Kool and we dont share the same liking as you,we are not of par? Since when personal preference or liking translate into low quality or high quality audience?

dude.how do u classify a serious movie?did bay told u that this is a serious movie?

LOL at "serious movie".  its a movie based on toys made by one of the biggest toy producer on Earth. THe main intention of toy store with such "established" toyline being made into a movie is to:

1) Attract kids and attack their dads pants/wallet to buy their toys
2) Retain fanbase so they wont ran amok and kill their executives for diverting 99% from real source. These fans also are potential cashcows.

This movie is the outcome of juggling 2 of the above. Hasbro won't give a damn about it NOT being oscar material. Can a golden award/statue of a half naked human = bring more sales especially from the kids?

That is why some of you see fans as being more "contented" than typical non-fans. But labelling them as low-class and stupid reflects upon the criticiser as someone who unable to debate in a proper manner.

i'd like to add something to supplement you argument there,

We all know Transformers came from Japan, as a toyline first made by Takara then bought over by Hasbro, so the Japanese and Americans thought "Hmm how to sustain sales? increase popularity and make a presence in the market?"

Then they came out with the TV series,"kids watch it,get hooked,force parents to buy for them". This tactic of promoting a toy line by giving it a story line to hoodwink kids is not new, take a look at those Tamiya Cars,they had a series promoting it with a storyline same goes for Pokemon,digimon, they too had series to promote them.

The point is the storyline was never meant to be deep or intellectual its meant to be a promotional material since the very beginning, and so far it has worked for almost 20+ years, why did you think they created so many version of the same story? to create different type of toys to keep with the times of course, its been 20+ years, and look their toyline is still popular. but in the process they created disparities as each alteration had conflicting ideas, just like how the AllSpark appeared in BeastWars and not the other incarnations which made the Matrix of Leadership/Creation concept belittled.

But what made TF,stand out from the rest of the toyline-direct-tv series business model is that, people in Marvel,DW and IDW expanded its mythos and universe and included more substance then the likes of Digimon,Pokemon and other promotional toyline that has a tv series or comic supporting it. For the most part of its existence TF, became a cult icon on its own, people started following the storyline thanks to the efforts by the mentioned companies.

@Quickfire: see in paragraphs

i think joke is insult..just how u think about it...

You said intelligent humour... and i asked you what is an intelligent humour and you said go watch TF1, i think the humour aspect is almost similar or better,thats what all those majority of movie goers are projecting even in the exit polls. The mum took pot,people who take pot behave comically havent you watched that 70ies show before? or seen anyone in real life taking excessive pot?
how does it insult your intelligence? since everyone have varying intelligence level how can a movie systemically insult just you and not the vast majority?

ha? thats intelligent humour to you? what the? i thought along the lines like something British that you have to ponder for sometime before you think its funny or not. Isnt that humour prevalent in TF2 via Sam and Simmons?

no it doesnt, just because you didnt find a joke funny means that it didnt appeal to you or maybe you dont like the way it is presented and probably thought its lame. Come to think of it every joke is some form of an insult,making fun of something and for the rest of us,if its funny we'll just laugh along or if its not then it clearly a failed attempt.

wait so,is TF1 humour intelligent or not? so if i liked it does it mean i'm a quality audience back then? and if i and the rest like the Tf2 jokes make us all low quality?