Are we combining the starcraft 2 sux thread with this thread now?

No offence,but the SC2 hard counter system is confusing and illogical. It's not like RA3 where you see a tank,you more or less know that it's good for buildings or tanks after a few tries with it. It's the same confusing hard counter system as C&C4 like Titan is good for huge Mammoth tank,but not the smaller Wolf tank.

The extra damage thing against certain armor isnt very intuitive.

I dont want to check the in-game help all the time to find whats my counter for something.

I dont know,but some of it arent that obvious like Zergling as counter to Thor,or Immortal as counter to Roach.

I dont know why,but Blizzard likes to lable one unit with 3 types of armor like Psionic,Mechanical and something else. It's quite confusing sometimes.

I like how the balance is heading now,as BOs like M&M arent that effective now,while Siege Tanks come out earlier a bit. This is good as it promotes you to go for other BOs which brings the game closer to RA3. Probably that wont make me fell asleep when i watch some VoD if each match is relatively unique to each other.

i understand if spells like psi-storm doesn't have auto cast, but what about phase shift? That should be auto castable.

And Phoenix's gravity spell. That SHOULD have auto cast, since it's just a flying version of the Crypt Fiend in War3.

Roach doesnt look huge to me on default camera view. Look more like armored Zerglings.

Maybe just me that Thor still look wrong to me.

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Added on April 8, 2010, 11:17 pm

I just have a feeling that Phoenix will be another rarely used unit.

Maybe more against tonnes of Mutalisk.

The original Phoenix is much more interesting.

u can just set some of your phoenixes to autocast while the others just shoot normally

l2p

IRVINE, Calif. – April 8, 2010 – Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. announced today that its highly anticipated real-time strategy game, StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™, will be available both in a standard edition and in a limited-release Collector's Edition packed with exclusive bonus materials. Players who purchase either edition will be able to play online for no additional fee through the new version of Battle.net®, the premier online gaming destination for Blizzard Entertainment gamers.

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will be available on DVD-ROM for Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 and Macintosh®. The standard edition will sell for a suggested retail price of $59.99 and will also be available shortly after release as a download through the online Blizzard Store. The special Collector's Edition package, which is priced at $99.99 and will only be available at retail stores, will include the following bonus items in addition to the game disc:

The Art of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, a 176-page book featuring artwork from the game
An exclusive 2GB USB flash drive replica of Jim Raynor's dog tag, which comes preloaded with the original StarCraft and the StarCraft: Brood War® expansion set
A behind-the-scenes DVD containing over an hour of developer interviews, cinematics with director's commentary, and more
The official StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty soundtrack CD, containing 14 epic tracks from the game along with exclusive bonus tracks
StarCraft comic book issue #0, a prequel to the comic series
A World of Warcraft® mini Thor in-game pet that can be applied to all World of Warcraft characters on a single Battle.net account
Exclusive Battle.net downloadable content, including special portraits for your Battle.net profile, decals to customize your units in-game, and a visually unique version of the terran Thor unit

I am more worried about if they are going to have CE for all 3 of them.... gonna be expensive...

Now I am just wondering how much is the Wow pet going to be worth on eBay, you might be able to repay the difference between the Normal and CE with that 

I might consider buying CE and keeping the 3 pets (because we all know the protoss and Zerg edition will have one too) to sell.

Definitely getting CE. The artwork book and soundtrack makes the 99USD much more worth the price i pay than 60USD for a paper box, a black and white manual and a disc inside.

Bloody ripoff.

The thumb drive got SC 1 inside? 

imma so gonna get CE. The thumbdrive with preloaded starcraft alone is worth it 

Still on the fence,not sure whether to buy the game or not.

Considering that i probably get it in Aus,ugh. Expecting to pay like RM400.

It cost too much.

Normally CE only cost around RM200.

I can get so many games with RM440.

have ur unit click onto it, then the towers will activate providing u vision of the area (quite a big radius)...
need to be a group unit (jz put a lowly zergling there =p)

a zergling costs half of a worker lol

my bad, i mean ground unit (how the hell did i type group >.<)

1. bring ur zerglings to war
2. bring the half dead zergling to camp at tower
3. ???
4. profit

eh i got play Wow also leh but i don't get beta key, i played for 2 years T__T

if count taiwan version, then i think 3 years T__T

well if you remember, Malaysia got taiwan WOW before having the international WOW T______T

usually early game harassments, u do run ur zerglings when the tide are turned (unless u wanna suicide em)...
though if u are a zerg, u are better off with mass overlods spawning creep + queen's creep highway...

Well for your information, Malaysia last time only got sell taiwan wow monthly cards.
If you want to play the international version, you need to pay by credit card.
The first cyber cafe in KL that have WoW is warnet in oug back then, about 4-5 years ago.

Well unless you don't have a life, and just stay at home 24hours that you don't even know what's happening around you then i don't mind you calling me an idiot for that statement 

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i agree with evo~
theres one thing i'm not sure about
why aren't there any players nowadays that stacks mutalisks, now cannot stack already? or the replays i've watched are all amateurs?

i remember blizzcon released a video that kim vs david~ i forgot who the player is, but mutalisks still can be stacked

and.......

HOLLYY SHIIIT!!!

EVO THANK YOU~ now only i know can merge my wow account with starcraft 2, i can officially play starcraft 2 now already xD

Last time i think only ori starcraft or warcraft 3 players can play 

hmmm not sure cause i'm at another guild...
but i guess there should be, try posting at their website...
i doubt there's a need for lurker just like how stalkers+immortals replacing dragoons...

depends on ur BOs...
u'll be surprised how fast some players tech up blink...

this is wut scouting is for...
with protoss, u have chrono to react to ur opponent (provided if u save em)...
if ur opponent go for a heavy macro with fast expand, just chrono up zealot rushes...
if he got for the medium game, chrono up ur techs...
scouting is totally important in SC2...

and there's nothing to counter stalkers with blink...
they are just too flexible and when backed with sentries? LETHAL...

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Added on April 13, 2010, 1:48 pm

best anti air for me = stalkers focus fire with blinks...
sentries with guardian shield and a damage upgrade is really great as well...
i dun really like going pheonix...

void rays are a little too slow to be anti air if u ask me...

hmmm i find carriers really good when backed with a good ground army...