from http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/e3_2...5_new_campaigns

why valve doesn't offer this as dlc =.=

tf2 still rock solid..

did i add u in steam yet?

cant find ur steam id for some reason

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Added on June 3, 2009, 2:00 amhttp://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott

This post has been edited by dfcloud: Jun 3 2009, 02:00 AM

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2526



Now Hiring!
May 19, 2009 - Zoid


It's been an interesting week for us here on the Left 4 Dead team. This Monday, for instance, somebody accidentally told Robin Walker he had the power to fire people. In other interesting news, the Left 4 Dead team has all been fired.

Lucky for me, Robin's fired everyone at alphabetical order, and doesn't seem to realize there's a letter after "Y". (Don't tell him.) . Since then it's been pretty quiet. Every hour or so Robin gets on a horse and chases some Greek kid around.

So for now I'm safe, and trying to reassemble the team. Without anyone else to help, I just have this crossword puzzle created by the fine folks at tf2maps.net. So this will have to work as a job application. If you can get this done, that probably means you can spell, which is a good start.


from wat i think, l4d2 cause from this new team~

Maybe cause they failed so badly @ L4D 1 that they need a brand new teamfor L4D 2 lol

u call L4D 1 fail???? u got something wrong? L4D won ALOT of award dude~

not that the game sucks but the game gets old so fast due to lack of missions and stuff compared to TF2

This game could compare to Resident evil : outbreak, but fail in ps2. lol

Now this game theme turn into a city, this just remind me to read walking dead comics. Hmmmm love walking dead


I am still waiting a open world zombie game, where u need to survive a long period of time and surviving like in the comics, such as find gun ammo shop to find weapon, find a prison to barricade, ransacking house or find gasoline to fill up the car and keep on moving forward. If no time, go to a empty safe house and save, leaving ur party behind, but when log in, they are no longer there, then try to meet up new folk who surviving the chaos.

The map must big, bigger that gta.. lol

This post has been edited by Plant: Jun 3 2009, 03:54 AM

that blog post is a continued joke after tf2 blog posts about Robin Walker supposedly fired all Valve employees excluding himself, Stavros, and Zoid.

Do I get promotion for Captain Obvious?

@sewers
yes you do, you are now hereby Brigadier General Obvious. paygrade and responsibility adjustments are 0 and "the ability to talk about AWESOMELY obvious shit with more calmness" respectively. enjoy XD XD

@plant
i like that idea. i like it a lot. sounds like a fun mod for fallout or oblivion *stop and thinks about oblivion...* medieval zombies! now thats an idea! *stops and thinks again...* oh wait, damn, they've got those in oblivion already... perhaps fallout then, building some new landmass and populating it to today's standards rather than fallout's timeline standards...could be awesome *continues to think aloud while dragged away in straight jacket*

This post has been edited by strife_personified: Jun 3 2009, 05:51 AM

This is a joke or what?

What happen to Valve's high standards?

God, are you ppl STILL raging over this? I'm as angry as the next guy (As evidenced by my post yesterday), but c'mon...

After my initial outburst and rage, I took the time to ponder and put it all into perspective. This isn't that big of a deal.

To those of you that are raging, "It should be DLC!!!" Why? Its got way more content than ALL the TF2 updates COMBINED. I'm not going to be so arrogant as to assume that all of this could be just appended to the current game engine (The new Director sounds spiffy)

To those of you raging, "I thought it would be like TF2!", Ok fair enough... Valve has spoiled us with the TF2 updates, but c'mon... its the exception rather than the rule. Its not like they DIDN'T provide any updates (However meager you believe the Survival pack is, its still a free update).

To those of you raging, "They're charging for a mod!" Why would you think this is a mod? Because it uses the same engine? Because it has only slight gameplay tweaks? Gears of Wars 2 says "Hello!". Yes, it does appear that Valve are being all money minded, but its not like they're the ONLY ones doing so.

To those of you raging, "But Valve lied to me!". Its not the first time... Remember Half-Life 2...

To those of you raging, "Meh, but L4D wasn't that fun". Way to justify your dismay by ragging on their game. Real classy there. If it really wasn't that fun, this frankly shouldn't be an issue at to you.

Ppl seemed to have suddenly forgotten that Valve make great games (Those of you that say L4D sucks, please go away, because you're obviously not the target audience) but often take forever to release them. At first, I was also all like "OMGWTFBBQ iz dis SHIT?!?!?!?!", but then I realized that "Hey, L4D was FUN and this new content sounds like FUN as well... and I won't have to wait another umpteen years for it"

I know I sound like a complete Valve apologist here, but now that I've thought about it, if priced right or offered properly, I probably will get this as L4D was buckets of fun and I look forward to this.

I've gotten over my entitlement complex, I hope you guys can do the same.

This post has been edited by H@H@: Jun 3 2009, 08:46 AM

Whatever Valve is doing with L4D2,it's all against their own philosophy,quality,support and promise.TF2 took 6-7 years to make so that we get that fun game we have today.HL2 EP3 still have little or no sign of it,as Valve wants to have a good ending to HL2.Same for Portal 2.Even CS 1.4 still getting support now.

If they are so money minded and not concern at all on quality,they would have HL3,TF3,Portal 2,CS:S 2 etc all out by now.

Why cant L4D2 be like those games?

Im not surprised at all if the players are pissed with it.The community should be angry about it.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jun 3 2009, 09:01 AM

So, since they have all this content ready, they should sit on it for a few years just so that they can maintain their record of "valvetime"? What kind of silly logic is that?

I dont see why those content couldnt be a DLC that will be released in a or 2 year's time? L4D1 have so little content and it's a standalone game.People payed a full priced game for it.Unlike TF2 where it comes with Orange Box that offer a solid single player experience.

Again, they have all this content READY... they don't really have an obligation to stagger its release (Though it would be nice if they did).

The new Director ALONE tells me this couldn't possibly be DLC (It actually alters the map and weather... That's a pretty big jump over the current one). Please find me another example of DLC that has altered the original that much.

Also, to those of you saying "OMG, its daytime, t3h lame!", remember this is Valve we're talking about. They're probably not going to do a simple "Let's just turn the lights on" but will probably think it through (Like how they did with nightfall in the original).

40 Award so to speak

Really?? You sure this time Valve????

Burnout Paradise didnt have any weather effects when it first release to the consoles.Full day and night cycle,plus,weather effects were added in a DLC after a few months.Bikes were also added to the game in another free DLC.

The Director does seem to have heaps of new feature,but releasing a sequel now is not a good idea at all.Considering it's a multiplayer game,as the new sequel will have a big impact on the community and fracture the current community.Besides,the sequel contradicts with Valve's promise to support the game for long term.Where are the L4D1 DLC? There are only 1.

It could be a worthy sequel if they actually put more time in it by delaying it for another 1-2 years,as more features are added as time goes by to the sequel and more time to polish it.There is nothing to do with the Valvetime or Blizzard's "When It's Done" ™.It's just that,from past experience,if a devs rush out a sequel too fast,the sequel is gonna be shit.Whether it's full of bugs,or not enough new features.Games are getting more and more complicated these days,while the expectations from gamers are getting higher,i really dont see why L4D2 shouldnt be delayed as time is needed to make a worthy sequel.I rather see the new Director and heaps of new features in L4D2 than what is in the current one.The current L4d2 sound like a half assed sequel to me.

This is no different than CoD is releasing every year.Thank gawd,Infinity Ward renamed the sequel of CoD4.

I didnt complain when SC2 or D3 took about 10 years to release. Good games take time to make.Crap games come out every year.L4D is a good game.If they keep the community busy with a few DLC,while develop L4D2 for a longer period.It would be a win win situation for the community and Valve.

Yes, Burnout Paradise is one of the shining examples of DLC done right, but c'mon... Its not much different. The weather and day/night cycles are pretty shallow changes (Rain doesn't actually affect your handling or visibility THAT much) and the bikes are very tacked on (Just solo races and nothing more).

Valve breaks promise... Sorry to disappoint you dude, but that's happened before, so no need to act all outraged anymore. At the end of the day they're a business and they need to make money. If you don't approve of this sequel, don't buy it. Trying to make a corporation feel guilty is like trying to make a bear feel guilty for mauling you.

As for DLC, its actually in line with the DLC release schedule for TF2 when it came out.


So you're assuming that since its this soon, it MUST be buggy and unfinished.

Yes, because renaming it makes it all better... So if this was called "Right 2 Live: Not L4D 2", you'd be first in line to get it?

How is this a win-win situation actually? That just means the COMMUNITY wins.

Their reasoning behind TF2's free updates is that the free weekends often result in a sales surge and the continued life of the community promotes sales over a long period of time. This does NOT mean the same will apply for other games. Who's to say L4D managed to do the same with the Survival pack patch? Maybe it was so lackluster and Valve are forced to do this? Nobody knows really. It is incredibly daft to assume that since TF2 did it and succeeded, therefore EVERYTHING else should succeed as well.