I planning to cover part of my porch.... any recommendations what would be a cost effective way to do it?

So far I've looked at
1. ajiya awning... RM 8 psf. Cons: Ugly, and noisy when it rains
2. Polycarbonate skylight: RM 12 psf using mild steel frame. Cons:Steel frame needs to be painted every couple
of years

Any other options?

Any one has reliable contractors to recommend?

Appreciate any advice. Thanks

This post has been edited by gilabola: May 31 2009, 01:17 PM

Do you have babies sleeping in the house? Polycarbonate can be quite noisy when it rains. Additionally, the silicone glue to hold them together runs dry after 2 - 3 years rain and shine. You may want to consider this.

This was the advise my ID gave me when I wanted to polycarbonate my new house. Just moved in 2 months.

Wood. Looks great

I m using polycarbonate for over 10yrs. No problem beside the frame start to rust. Noisy when raining. But don't see much different with the ajiya awning. The good thing is, inside my home is still bright. Save me from lightning.

This post has been edited by ozak: Jun 1 2009, 10:25 PM

hmm..what did the ID recommend as an alternative?

Becareful what you do in your house, google earth is watching.

Suggest u use the solid type rather the hollow type. Most company offer the hollow type as it is much cheaper.

FYI, Polycarbonate is not noisy. I have it install in my house.

Wood but in the end, we didnt go with that idea. ID is a relative but not impressive enough. So we end up cement and roof tile the entire place.

I prefer having cement and roof tile around my windows with 'stabilisers' (don't know the correct term for it) to 'hold up' the roof for windows etc.

think it looks very resort-like . is it cheaper than polycarbonate awnings?

Actually Polycarbonate is not as noise as you think, because if they doing in the correct way, and by using a solid type, actually the polycarbonate is very "solid" and not much sound will be out.

The only problem that i consider is, polycarbonate will look dirty after sometime, that may not look so nice, but actually u can clean it when u feel that is dirty.

Another altenative suggestion will be, concrete base with roof tiles, that is totally solid. And there is another way which very modern and costly is, Tempered glass, which the lighting much batter then policarbonate, more easy to clean compare to policarbonate, but is just the cost really high compare to other.

If still back to policarbonate, there is still another way to do it, which is using solid wood to build pergola which more tropika feel, now a day, some ppl using metal to do it as well.

Is there an option to use polycarbonate awning with wrought iron or stainless steel as the frame?

Yes, it is, but the cost will higher compare to metal, diff may around 30% and above

Well, with using wrought iron and stainless steel as the frame will reduce the cost of maintenance and also will not rust and therefore wont tarnish the outlook of the awning.

i think rusting is not so much of problem coz it is coated with paint so just need to make sure we touch up before it get rusted.

the bigger problem is to clean. Tim is right, it will look dirty after sometime. so how to clean it?

Hi All,

any idea how much for this kind of wood skylight design?? how to calculate .psf?? thanks a lot

I did one, this is call pergola, but this 1 with polycarbonet finish





This post has been edited by Eleganz Concept: Nov 8 2010, 09:47 PM

what's the price range...pm me can...tqvm

Dun think that it is suitable for Malaysian weather as it's always raining and leaves, bird droppings and what not will get stuck there if it's not cleaned often.

Malaysian style - usually dun even bother to clean up on this.

I think the price varies depending on the type of wood. Merbau might be cheaper and cengal is more expensive. I think the prices can be as low as RM18-20 psf. For mild steel can be as low as RM12 psf. Do shop around, compare prices and negotiate hard.

This post has been edited by gilabola: Nov 8 2010, 11:19 PM

so for mild steel only rm12 per sq feet?i was quote rm20 per sq feet. damn, expensive.. for pergola how much including polycarbonate?

Have you surveyed the contractor`s past records??

I experience a lot of tak boleh pakai contractors who offer cheap price but abandon the job half way or finish the job un finished.......

in the end, I end up paying extra more for better contractors to redo the thing

there's one more material i don't know the name but better than polycarbonate a lot... its translucent and transparent . the material is very gliding compare to polycarbonate. best thing about it is that it does not stain and dirty when rain.

yes I know it.......

Infact polycarbonate got about 3-4 type itself.........

1) hollow section about Rm 3 psf
2) solid sheet 3mm RM 5-6 psf
3) sun stop RM 10 psf
4) IT Tech RN 15-16 psf

and the material you mentioned is acrylic sheet.... and damn expensive..... the main advantage is that it will now crack if expose to sunlight or UV

i think that's the one.. usually how does the contractor come out with the price . what we should be aware of when they quote. i believe material and work force should be itemized .

materials should be the structures like galvanized metal and the cover sheet such as polycarbonates or acrylic sheet. how bout silicone glue? we need to be double aware the type of silicone glue use too. Some are not durable .

this is what`s going on on contractor`s costing regime........

1) material cost... say RM 2000.00
2) how long does it take to finish.. from order material to installtion... say 10days.. and my average cost is say RM 5k per month so divide it...
3) plus how much margin I want.... taking into consideration that how many people are doing it(competitor) + how tedious/difficult the job is......
4) so, as easy, they divide the total cost by area so you get say RM 25 psf....
5) other variables.... eg. how cerewet the house owner is... cut price after nego n job done.... ask to do extra more but unwilling to pay

hope it helps....

on the silicon issue, like I mentioned to many forumers here before.. it is best to follow the contractors to hardware store where you ask the local hardware shop boss to recommend you the best of value added goods.......

p/s I open hardware shop too.. so I know this..... "tuan rumah want cheap price.... so I give him cheap goods laa...... "

Guys, thanks for the thread.

I'm looking to replace my almost 10 year old polycarbonate skylight which is already cracked. Can you guys recommend me some companies to get it replaced?

So far I called one company and had a quote of RM9 per sq feet (just the polycarbonate, RM13 if complete set). The rest, no answer (Saturday). Not sure if there are better deals elsewhere? thank you.

This post has been edited by Roger89: Mar 5 2011, 03:26 PM

yeah i do hope to find a reliable contractors with experience. u know lah currently a lot of earthquake. must get the one with at least some engineering knowledge. i know some house owners deal directly with these indon workers to get a good price but the downside is that there's a risk of falling down and cause injury.

some of the house cement or structures cannot be use to support heavy metal . some big companies just hired sales guy to work and they cannot be too sure of the safety needs .

from my experience before, some uncles are pretty good but come at a cost . So , when choosing workmanship vs cost.. better go for good experience workmanship.

yeah... best is to chosoe the one with good past records....... and FYI, not all contractors come with engineering background.... but past experience with big projects makes them equipted with rule of thumb strategies.... efficient, cheap and feasible...
e.g. they worked with so many projects that is well engineered by qualified engineers.... I mean the spec is about 90% the same... how much steel at what grade/size/qty for single storey, double storey et al.. and you ask him to extend a single storey balcony and what they did is borrow the spec from previous project and applied it... infact.... most did it this way...

how much ah pek contractors have the knowledge of doing stress analysis??


I used to pay 20% for my house renovation by highly recommended contractors compared to ah beng ah kao.... with cheap price

Bro, how much for this type of pergola with polycarbonate?

i got quoted RM15 psf for solid polycarbonate using mild steel around bangi...mind sharing where you got the quotation? is it still at that price since your post on 2009...?

wah, cheaplh rm15 psf for solid polycarbonate. mind to share which company you get this quotation. i got for solid rm18 and hollow rm13 (bangi-kajang area).

i saw 1 brand of polycarbonate, which is from GE, General Electric.

Normally msia it is

marklon or

megaplas

Surada Ironworks
Lot 1635 jalan teratai, sg. ramal dalam,
kajang

019-6579008 (fizhan), 019-2779007 (J.J.)

if i'm not mistaken, RM15 psf for solid poly, but sorry if i'm wrong...

today i asked the grill ppl about installing poly skylight,
he quoted me RM22/sqft
and I asking what's type of poly he use, he just say "good one" but not mention the detail....

and god dang it .. i'm not going to use this contractor, he's sub-con of my main con doing grill, the grill finishing is so blardy char... just called up main con to complaint.
will source from somewhere else.

Went to MidValley home exhibition yesterday...was quoted for RM20/sqft for solid polycarbonate with mild steel frame...

Is this the current pricing now? Mind sharing other quotes around in sungai buloh area?

how much the price per square feet for polycarbonate with pergola (either using wood or steel that made like wood)

normal poly wif mild steel should be around 20-25 and poly with resak wood is quite expensive, around 40-50 per sq ft

which wood is better, resak or balau? cengal the most expensive. at Perfect Living today, Resak they quote for RM28 with solid poly while Cengal RM32.. but for balau only RM25.. is't price reasonable?

The Salesperson from De Skylight told me that Resak is much better than Balau. Durability is similiar, just that Balau is light weight.

Anyway, got quoted last week for Resak at RM27.60 with 3mm thick solid polycarbonate "Verone" (their in-house brand).

but when you ask Delux, they said Balau more better than resak. i also ask another shop, and they give the same answer..

I ask one of contractor in my place (JB) to quote me the price for 16'x20' solid polycarbonate with wrought iron and they give me rm28sft. It is so damn expensive, its cost me RM8960 just for the awning. What is the standard price this kind of material, the design is straight awning (rain water flow to the road)? Anybody can advise me. Thanx bro.

local
rm18 per sqft 3mm solid sheet
http://www.marklon.com.my/ss/product_range.jsp

imported
rm21 per sqft 3mm solid sheet
http://www.makrolon.com/bms/db-rsc/makrolo...en?opendocument

Thnaks bro, this company can install in JB???

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Added on April 28, 2011, 9:37 amAnybody can give/advise me a good contactor with resonable price for polycarbonate owning. My location is in JB... Thanks

This post has been edited by alantoi: Apr 28 2011, 09:37 AM

i've done pergola polycarbonate skylight with V-Max. they using Selangan Batu wood. price RM25 per square feet with 3mm solid polycarbonate..

any pic of it?wanna see the outcome.
btw this compny located where?
selangan batu wood?1st time i heard it..

located at Kajang. they said selangan batu is same with balau just name different. you can google it and selangan batu mostly came from sarawak. will post the pictures..

you can try glass too..

wanna share my experience with this contractor
called them up for the job and the quoted price was much higher than 15/sf
at the end got hold of another contractor that does the steel work themselves charging at 19/sf
beware

I'm look for polycarbonate as well and been quoted RM18sf too, hence if 22feets (weight) x 5 feets (Long) x RM18 = RM1980 only for front car pouche...still have windows to add

Is this stndard price for RM18?

Is RM18psf using metal support?

It should be around this price.

he indicated is Metal Support.
yah to see the full quotation for Gate / Grill and this...

I'm wondering if its possible to stand on the roof of the polycarbonate. Because i'm planning to install for my back yard but I have some air-con units above it, so if the air con tech come sto service it, will he be able to stand on the roof?

Depending on how strong are the roof trusses. And you must also only stand on the trusses. Never in between trusses on the polycarb sheet. Unless, you are a cat.

There will be 2 concerns. If you do not step directly onto the supporting members, very likely you will make a hole in the polycarbonate. Even if you step directly onto the supporting members, you need to sure that the structure can support the weight. especially those cantilever roof that you commonly see at the back yards.

Even cat also can cause damage. Don't play play.

Thank you for the replies. I guess polycarbonate is out of the question for me then. I thought it would be more solid.

What would be an appropriate roof type that can hold a person or 2 persons weight?

I was quoted RM59 / sqft for tempered glass.

You may need 10m Temper glass. Market price is around RM 80/sqft. I am looking of this too but too expensive and hold this for another year.

my existing backyard is using those metal type (Red/Black), what previous a/c folk does was put another long wood in between those supported bar than walk in between
My neightboor polycarbonate root having similar wood on top as well (can see from below too)

Rm80/sqft is cut throat price lor

i was quote rm35/sqft for 12.38 laminated glass only, frame by others...

That is good price, where did you get the price?

Eh.. He is talking about tempered glass. Same result, tempered glass = laminated glass ?

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Added on October 20, 2011, 9:31 amDo you really need a tempered glass for roof? Is your glass under a load or just a cover?

This post has been edited by ozak: Oct 20 2011, 09:31 AM

Thanks for the feedback. Hmmm I guess AC fellas will know what to do, but I just don't want to suffer a hole in my roof if those AC fellas a a little careless.

For skylight I prefer temper glass is not noisy and no color fade.

I m thinking of a cheapest way.

Tempered glass use mainly for load. Since skylight is just a cover and there is many frame support from below, why still need expensive tempered glass. Probally laminated glass will do. That can reduce the cost. A thick glass already better a lot than the polycarbonate for noise.

But do glass color fade under the sun for long period?

Aiyah color fade on polycarbonate, the laminated price and laminated actually not much difference because temper, think about rm5 extra pqft.

But this I am not too concern now, I can do the parking after I move in.

Sorry, I read wrong about the glass fade color.

Polycarbonate color won't fade. It get dirty and look dull when not clean frequent. All my house shade is using polycarbonate for over 10yrs. Cheap at that time.

But glass look better.

Glass also less noisy. But is sure more expensive.

Price quoted to me for 22x10 ft plus frame is 13K.

Here are some other options to think about if you want to install awnings

Just been quoted RM1k for 4 by 9 ft hollow polycarbonate with rod iron frame.

anyone have good company to recommend? planned to do awning with tempered glass / laminated glass, and the frame using metal

Whatmaterial are you using ???13K? or 1.3K?
13K / 220ft (22*10) = RM 59/ft???

This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Nov 14 2011, 10:29 AM

So, what is the approximate rate per sq ft for polycarbonate awnings? Anyone here care to share?

anyone can recommend me a good company with good price for glass awning?

How often you need to have 2 persons standing on the roof repairing/servicing your airconds? Just put a piece of large and thick plywood on top the roof you can step on any where you want if the roof is flat. The weight is spread. Not enough, 2 pieces. plywood is cheap just that after the job you have to have a place to keep and hide them away.

Have been looking for polycarbonate as well. Interested in the pergola style but using ms steel frame which is cheaper than wood. So far 2 quotes for 22x14 car porch is ard rm5500-5800 (rm18-19psqf) using solid type polycarbonate.
Anyone has contractors with better price?

Hi,

I can recommend you the following company

http://www.facebook.com/mlengineeringconstruction

email: mlec.info@gmail.com

Hi, just want to check, currently l;m looking for wrought iron + solid polycarbonate awning for my balcony 18x13 and car porch 18x5.

my contractor charge me RM20 or RM22 for normal steel per sq ft and RM28 per sq ft for wrought iron. wrought iron really need rm28 per sq ft meh? so expensive?

I would think that it is more like wrought iron look alike. Actual wrought iron is going to be damn heavy for an awning plus will be more expensive

Yes, that's fake wrought iron - it's mild steel with some texture effect. I don't think you can get wrought iron in the market.



Are you sure about the dimensions?

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Feb 16 2012, 05:06 PM

To install Marklon 3mm thick solid sheet polycarbonate with one side UV coated on the surface with 10 years warranty and other accessories for complete installation of roofing system come with 2" x 4" balau wood structural frame with finish paint.

Size 31"x12"
4 Nos support with stainless steel tie-rod
RM 10500

My question:
a) Is the price expensive?
b) balau or resak? Which wood better?

Hi all bros want to ask installing policarb with 2x4 balau wood structural frame is so exp? rm42 psf?
14x44f is already rm26k.

normally only around RM27 psf....

Thanks alot bro, my id contractor suggest me doing polycard with balau structural frame for balcony. but i prefer rc frame type.

My contractor quoted me Rm25psf....but other things super expensive...my kitchen itself is RM52k...crazy...

craft you must have a big kc then for rm52k. i guess i need to get more quotation.

Nolar...regular wet & dry kitchen..Rm52 is excluding wet work..just cabinet..but I wont let them do cabinet...getting Unity Kitchen.

Wiring is also expensive...only wet work is cheap....My total came up to like RM172k..lol....*faint*

Who else can recommend me another contractor wiring?

whoa a whopping 172k can buy 1/2my house d. my budget for all in about 35-50k nia.

I was quoted ajiya awning with installation rm18/sf
Skylight awning 23/sf

polycarbonate skylight reflectife awning with steel for rm26 per sf. total area size about 300 sf. is this normal ??

Anyone has installed awning with laminated glass and metal frame? Recommendation and pricing much appreciated.

Can any of you please be specify the metal frame size? I saw the range from RM15-RM28. If using metal frame, what is the size of the frame?

I been quoted as follows:

38mm x 38mm metal frame + solid polycarbonate = RM20

50mm x 100mm metal frame (pergonal looks alike) + solid polycarbonate = RM28.

Is the price reaasonable ?

I am also intending to install glass awnings and glass roofing. I was quoted RM60/ftsq. I am not sure if this is reasonable.

Can anyone confirm the reasonableness of the price? Thanks.

U need o provide glass type (laminated/tempered) and the thickness. Wonder no details how to know the exact price

12.38mm tinted laminated glass supported on steel I beams & rectangular hollow sections. Thanks.

Hmm..looking for polycarbonate roofing for my car porch...wonder if anyone has good latest contacts?