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TSmacpro2
post May 27 2009, 06:27 PM, updated 17y ago

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What’s The Best Protein Available Right Now?


There is a lot of controversy surrounding whey vs. hemp protein...others..?

For years, Whey has been tooted for being one of the most bio-available protein source. However, more recently, research has shown that whey protein in not readily digestible by the human body, creates intestinal toxemia and sludge, bloating and may actually increase your waistline. An inefficient intestinal tract reduces amino acid and any other nutrient absorption into your body and cells. Therefore, the more protein you consume, the more it will store in your gut building up and releasing (smelly) toxic waste. And if it's sitting in your gut, chances are, it isn't getting to your muscles. In addition, whey protein powders are laced with a plethora of chemical additives and non-digestible sweeteners in efforts to make the product more palatable.

So what to do?

If you are training hard, a protein supplement is a convenient way to ensure you are receiving adequate amino acids and nutrients for muscle repair and development. But you want to choose a supplement of high quality that is easily digestible and loaded the nutrients and enzymes required for most efficient protein synthesis. One to try: Hemp Protein. smile.gif

Why Hemp?

1. It's natural - There are no additives, chemicals or toxins that will interfere with absorption or compromise optimal health and nutrition. And the THC is negligible, so there will be no stimulating effects.
2. It's a complete protein - contains all essential amino acids for muscle repair, improved metabolic activity and overall wellbeing
3. Bio-available - hemp is an easily digestible, plant-based, whole food supplement that is high in enzymes, healthy bacteria and essential fatty acids necessary for muscle growth, recovery and fat burning. Because most hemp proteins are not heat treated (unlike whey), they contain enzymes (electrical charges) which are necessary to synthesize amino acids into new muscle.
4. Essential Fatty Acids - Hemp protein has the optimal 3:1 ratio of omega 6 and omega 3 fatty acids - the fat that actually helps to burn fat. It also contains GLA which is crucial for hormone balancing.
5. Alkalizing - plant based protein contains chlorophyll and alkalizes your body to help you stay healthy and maintain a healthy PH level.
6. High in fiber and friendly bacteria - controls blood sugar levels, curbs hunger and cravings and helps to eliminate intestinal sludge AND bloating. A healthy and clean intestinal tract results in more effective absorption and nutritional efficiency.


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post May 27 2009, 07:43 PM

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Your original thread is an advertising post which is disallowed here.
I'll leave this for discussion though.
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post May 27 2009, 07:53 PM

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Gagaga, apparently some fella in the gym finishes a 2lbs whey in just 2 weeks. I think he hantam damn a lot of scoops in each serving.

So 4lbs = 1 month? lol! Kencing everything.

For most people, a tub of 5lbs can last for at least 2 months - 2 1/2 month, just nice for pre and post workout daily.

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post May 27 2009, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ May 27 2009, 07:53 PM)
Gagaga, apparently some fella in the gym finishes a 2lbs whey in just 2 weeks. I think he hantam damn a lot of scoops in each serving.

So 4lbs = 1 month? lol! Kencing everything.

For most people, a tub of 5lbs can last for at least 2 months - 2 1/2 month, just nice for pre and post workout daily.
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post May 27 2009, 08:02 PM

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I think I finished 5lbs in a month last time... But take everyday la.
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I think if workout 5 days a week, so that's like 40 servings in 2 months.

40 servings x 2 for pre and post.

Pre = 1 scoop

Post = 1 1/2 scoop

I think should be just nice? Not sure, never bought a whey protein before, but going to by this week.

Pre workout maybe I'll just have milk blend with banana and almonds. That should be able to last me for 3 months.

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post May 27 2009, 08:56 PM

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it seems hemp protein is another alternative to whey ..
better & healthier too

http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/

http://www.innvista.com/health/foods/hemp/seedprot.htm


Added on May 27, 2009, 10:53 pmOnce protein has been denatured, which means it’s been processed over temperatures of around 120 degrees – it kills the enzyme functions in the protein... It annihilates the good bacteria... And these two essential components make the amino acids “alive” or “electrically charged”. In other words, if you heat up the food IT’S DEAD. The nutrition is GONE!
comment .. is this true with whey ?? processed



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post May 27 2009, 11:10 PM

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I didn't know we were taking enzymes. Consuming enzymes would mean denaturing them at a low pH in our stomach anyway. *cough*biology*cough*

I didn't know food was alive either, and I didn't know that they have to be alive to provide nutrition.

Louis Pastuer disagrees with the idea that heating up food causes the nutritions to be leeched away.

Where do people come up with ideas like these?
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post May 27 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ May 27 2009, 11:10 PM)
I didn't know we were taking enzymes. Consuming enzymes would mean denaturing them at a low pH in our stomach anyway. *cough*biology*cough*

I didn't know food was alive either, and I didn't know that they have to be alive to provide nutrition.

Louis Pastuer disagrees with the idea that heating up food causes the nutritions to be leeched away.

Where do people come up with ideas like these?
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post May 28 2009, 12:40 AM

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talking bout whey, i remember florian takes 7 scoops per day...
aint that right?
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post May 28 2009, 01:10 AM

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but when i take whey, i dont need to heat it up? dunno @.@ i am confused liao

@jonyeap : wow thats so many..7 scoops per day hahaha
btw, u disagree with zeist comment , y u put as ur sig @.@
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QUOTE(xSinner @ May 28 2009, 01:10 AM)
but when i take whey, i dont need to heat it up? dunno @.@ i am confused liao

@jonyeap : wow thats so many..7 scoops per day hahaha
btw, u disagree with zeist comment , y u put as ur sig @.@
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well, yeah, he did take 7 scoops of protein, and 4-5 chicken breastmeat if not mistaken.
he took around 400g protein daily.
kaka... florian, u still eating so much or not?

whey no need heat up
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QUOTE(macpro2 @ May 27 2009, 06:27 PM)
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1. Whey is also natural. It came from cow milk. It's the additives that might make it a wee bit undesirable. If that's the case, get pure whey. Quite easily available.
If there are problems with commercial whey proteins, it's not the whey's problem... it's the manufacturer's problem. If a hemp protein manufacturer add additives and sweeteners and colourings to hemp protein, it will have the same undesirable product. It's not the food, it's the processing.

2. Whey is a complete protein too.

3. Just show the numbers with proper source to validate. These 2 important numbers determine the 'power-ness' of the protein: PER, biological value (BV). It is widely used, and it is scientific. If you can't find out, then what you said is nothing but BS.
Here's my thoughts on eating enzymes. Read it:
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And whatever you said about enzymes in point 3 is flawed. It's marketing speak meant to confuse consumers. For scientists, it's BS.

4. No comments. Prefer to have numbers and proper source to validate it.

5. Alkalizing. Could be true if it contains minerals. But chlorophylls in hemp seed? Are you sure? And chlorophyll is not the main thing that is alkalizing-producing in our bodies. Minerals are.

6. Certain fibres are pre-biotic. Agreed (terms & conditions apply).

QUOTE(macpro2 @ May 27 2009, 08:56 PM)
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1. YOur links are full of conspiracies. It's to be taken with a grain of salt (a spoonful is more appropriate).

2. Once protein is denatured, it means it's configuration/shape is changed and no longer active. That's all. All the amino acids are still there. Most protein denatures above 40 degrees anyway. For safety reasons, this is what your stomach is pH 2-3. To friggin' frag the protein until they 'die'.
You boil and egg, and the egg white turns to opaque+white from transparent <--- this is denaturation. When you cook your chicken, it turns from chewy and pink into white and easy to bite <--- this is also denaturation.

3. And the 120 degree is to kill bacteria (particularly [/i]C. bot[/i]). Would anyone rather die of botulism? It's a horrible way to die, and victims die within 1 day of infection/intoxication.

You want good bacteria? Eat yogurt, prebiotic & fibre and other properly fermented foods. You DON'T WANT ANY BACTERIA in your protein.

4. 'Alive' = BS. Like I said, you don't want any protein to remain active in your stomach. Imagine if a bacteria's proteins (or worse: bacteria/virus enzymes) are active in your gut. And those harmful enzymes working its magic in your intestines. If it's a small issue, you'll have a stomach ache. Worst case scenario: you could die.
This is a survival mechanism. You stomach do its best to denature all proteins (including enzyme) to protech you from harm.
If you want 'alive' proteins, go bite a piece of meat off a living cow/chicken, while it's still 'ALIVE'.

5. 'Electrically charged' = BS BS BS BS BS.
I could make all my protein electrically charged too! Just poke 2 metal rods on the meat/protein, then turn on the switch, yo! Not only it charges the protein, it can even cook the protein!
Me LOL'd so hard at me own funniest joke, me iz cannot to taip proper England languange. (sorry for the sarcasm, dude. I can't help it. tongue.gif )

6. BTW, whey is a by-product of cheese making. And it is COLD PRESSED! No heat involved (except spray drying to remove moiusture). So don't simply BS ah. Hemp protein would need heat to remove moisture too. So apa macam?

Let me clue you in about what food scientists actually know: whey is one of the best sources of protein you can find, especially true if you can get it pure (e.g. from 4Rings). Rat test for PER are always done using whey as the reference. It means it's the best, that's why it's the reference (whey & egg most of the time).
And I've seen the test first hand: the rats are healthy, fur is thick+smooth, and fit. Those that were fed with tempeh, tofu, god-knows-what-else protein... some died, some are skinny with patches on their fur.

7. I'm not saying hemp protein is bad. If it's a good source of protein, then it's a good alternative.
But your post provided too much points for dispute (so much, I have to use the uncountable adjective: 'much'). And your sources are not exactly trustworthy. Your points doesn't hold up to scientifically proven facts. Sorry.
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macpro2 : The big question is also :

Are you taking hemp protein whey? You haven't said anything.
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he is just da promo guy which is providing baseless claims with no proven result.

i think TS is doing a research on marketing strategy? hahaha
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I don't doubt its a good source of protein, but its more expensive than whey haha... You guys shoudn't be biased against hemp just cuz most of us use whey, do some research before judging it la. Its just a lil overrated by TS I guess.
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anyone tried 'bancuh' protein with hot water like milo??

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QUOTE(myremi @ May 28 2009, 08:44 AM)
macpro2 : The big question is also :

Are you taking hemp protein whey? You haven't said anything.
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yes. taste green plant lol. sweat.gif

but mix with whey or fruits. since no added sugar laugh.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(Lurker @ May 28 2009, 05:00 PM)
anyone tried 'bancuh' protein with hot water like milo??
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u meant whey? i got lumps....they blend better with cold water


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QUOTE(andylim2000 @ May 28 2009, 10:49 AM)
he is just da promo guy which is providing baseless claims with no proven result.

i think TS is doing a research on marketing strategy? hahaha
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BRO>..

I not promo guy OK !! vmad.gif
i not even sell anything yet to you guys

I tell u that there is also an alternative ..

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