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post Jun 29 2009, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(DiamondRuby @ Jun 29 2009, 01:12 PM)
Dear All Sifu,

Anyone can help me clear-up my doubt as below:-
1) What's the market price for HDMI graphic card? Please recomend a market value Graphic cards with HDMI output.
2) If normal VGA connected to TH-P42S10K will get poor pixel?
3) I came across with the Break-in topic, I'm curious, Why Panansonic Manufacturer didn't Break-in before sell to consumer?
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VGA is not 1080p.
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post Jul 3 2009, 01:22 PM

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S video or VGA would just fail this plasma since they are not 1080p.
It's like feeding SD content on full hd panel.
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post Jul 5 2009, 09:34 PM

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Please PM me too if you really want to sell
I am getting 2nd unit or may be a 3rd unit smile.gif
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:01 AM

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I strongly believe this is wrong setting or GC.
Mine is working well in 1080p.
Btw RM3.4k is on the high side.
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post Jul 6 2009, 03:54 PM

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Refer to earlier post by Kian Wee.
Search for it...Thanks
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post Jul 10 2009, 10:26 PM

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I'm getting another 42s10 fr htkaki tomorrow. smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2009, 11:00 PM

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htkaki need to install speakers tomorrow
no poison for me... tongue.gif
going to his shop tomorrow
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post Jul 10 2009, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jul 10 2009, 11:08 PM)
I am still considering weather to get another S10 - 50" or 42"  hmm.gif

It's for my master bedroom.
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Depending on viewing distance...How far?
I would get another 50S10 as well, but not now... I'm waiting for price drop doh.gif
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post Jul 11 2009, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jul 11 2009, 01:00 AM)
Around 15 feet.  ohmy.gif
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50" for 15feet distance still small
Get a bigger one thumbup.gif


Added on July 11, 2009, 7:48 amnot consider partitioning the room to have better space usage?

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post Jul 11 2009, 09:48 AM

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You wont' know. 42" full hd plasma last year was sky high


Added on July 11, 2009, 9:49 amI'm just hoping ... biggrin.gif


Added on July 11, 2009, 1:55 pmBack from Seremban. Got another 42S10 today.
Hope 50S10 price would drop a bit more...


Added on July 11, 2009, 5:46 pmChecked my old 42S10, clocked 113 hrs now

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post Jul 11 2009, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Jul 11 2009, 09:28 PM)
Wow 2nd P42S10 drool.gif  .....but if you save up the money for two S10, you can go for larger screen plasma  hmm.gif
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Plan to get 50S10 as well.
Waiting for price drop 'an excuse' doh.gif ... Now the price already quite good if lower a bit even better biggrin.gif
No rush...but will get it before year end.


Added on July 11, 2009, 11:17 pmBtw now 42S10 is more value for money...

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post Jul 12 2009, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Jul 12 2009, 02:42 PM)
Hiho

My eyes are bleeding...

For those who notice, I've promised to post my TH-P42S10K setup after Spyder 3 calibration

And today's the day

Here is the results after calibration

View Mode: Normal
Contrast: 96
Brightness: 4
Color: 50
Sharpness: 50
Color Blance: Normal
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Eco Mode: On
P-Nr: Off

At this point in time the images on screen (Baraka and Ratatouille) is popping out of the TV

Which explains my bleeding eyes....
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No adjustment on service menu?
Contrast is on high side...
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post Jul 12 2009, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Jul 12 2009, 03:35 PM)
Nope. No adjustment on the service menu.

Yes, I have the same feeling about the contrast value. Am afraid that my TV is not properly burn in yet (about 50 hours)

Will borrow his Spyder 3 calibration after another 2/3 weeks or so to recalibrate.

Cheers
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Better leave settinng at stock before break in.
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post Jul 12 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Jul 12 2009, 05:25 PM)
Whats the recommended break-in hours for this model?
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Approx 200 hours under normal viewing or longer...
For reference:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1128487
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post Jul 12 2009, 11:59 PM

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Got to wait for bro kianwee, his set yet to break in yet.
Our local S10 is inferior to those in US.
They use only Z, V and G series. So no reference setting for M'sia S10K. doh.gif


Added on July 12, 2009, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 12 2009, 10:46 PM)
Thank you for buying from me again!  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif

Bro, next time when you are free, pls come again. I will let you test out my system. Btw, just done '1st stage' of acoustic treatment today. Hope to get my '2nd stage' this weekend.
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Thanks for the easy deal too biggrin.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 09:56 AM

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Bro,
Mind to post setting here for reference?
Thanks in advance notworthy.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 14 2009, 10:01 AM)
Bro,

Superyaw has the readings. It was almost 1am when we finished this morning, so I did not take the readings. However, the readings are only for the AC Ryan Media streamer and the calibration was done in the service menu. From what I remember, it was done in Cinema Mode and Colour Temperature Warm. I can confirm that each media streamer is different and the setting cannot be interchanged. This is because of the different chips used in each media streamer

I did not calibrate for the PS3 since he does not use that for viewing. BD players are closer to each other and will yield better results.
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The reference setting would help a lot as S10 have inherent green tint in dark scene.
Hope that it could alleviate this problem to certain extent.
I have little experience on settings in Service menu.
Hope sifu like you can give some guide on this.


Added on July 14, 2009, 10:12 amBro,
PM'ed Superyaw. Hope he could share it with us. drool.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 14 2009, 10:21 AM)
Bro,

If u r using with HTPC, I believe this problem can only be fixed if your card is a good graphics card. I have seen 2 ATI cards that pass blacker than black but do not pass whiter than white. This is an issue. Brightness cannot be set correctly. More importantly, the gamma curves even with good grayscale is out of whack. Way out of whack .The S10/X10 does not have gamma treatment options even in the service menu. The gamma above 50% gray was somewhere between 1.3-1.7! This will yield in a washed up picture. The only way to fix this is to reduce the brigthness to insane levels, then you end up with very bad shadow details as the gamma in the lower regions (10-40%) are then above 3! I really have not seen a HTPC graphics card that addresses these issues correctly

The media streamers are another headache. The WDTV passes Blacker than Black (BTB) and Whiter than White (WTW),  but it messes up the gamma a little and screws up the colour transformation to HD. the AC Ryan passes WTW but does not pass BTB. It does not harm the colour too badly.

So your best bet would be a standalone BD player if you stress picture quality.

Pls remember than all modifications in the service menu need to be done by someone who knows what he is doing. superyaw, will need to go back into the service menu, take the RGB bias and RGB cuts and the person using his settings will have to either navigate up/down to match the final settings he gives. The settings are in HEX format.

Again, pls take care when u r in the service menu. I would like to mention that choosing the wrong option can brick your set. Pls be careful.
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Totally agreed with these. Wrong setting in service menu would brick the set... sweat.gif
ATI isn't doing good in White...

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post Jul 14 2009, 11:26 AM

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Stock setting would do... say Cinema mode.
Or you can use kianwee's setting in earlier post.
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post Jul 15 2009, 07:59 AM

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After break in...say 200 hours under normal viewing.
Pls refer to earlier post on method to check panel hours. smile.gif


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