Still no reply from Erik.....

Man, the more I read about this sub, the more crazy i got. I can wait to order and get this sub. So far I haven't heard anyone say anything negative about it. Unbelievable. I guess i am poison to the bones!!!

Just a image to tease all...



This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 12 2009, 11:14 PM

Here is a good pictures showing the size of the ???.

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Added on June 13, 2009, 1:55 amIf one couldn't satisfy you...what about six!!!

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Added on June 13, 2009, 1:58 amThis one is PC12-NSD


This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 13 2009, 01:58 AM

So far all or most of the user are happy so that says a lot.

"There is always a bigger fish!" but now that is all the fish I need.

Saw some users review on the net and thought this one is very useful as it have comparison between different subs.

Wharfedale PC DX12 vs Velodyne SPL 1200 vs HSU VTF-3 MKII Intimus S-12 vs Infinity Alpha 1200S vs SVS PB12-ISD


I'll keep this short and conscise: I have five other friends that agreed to purchase five other reputable subwoofers. These are the subwoofers they chose: Wharfedale PC DX12 Velodyne SPL 1200 HSU VTF-3 MKII Intimus S-12 Infinity Alpha 1200S SVS PB12-ISD (Initially tested by me.) We all tested each of our subs with the same music CD's as weel as the same DVD's. We tested them of course at various volume levels. We rated each of our subs in different categories in music and in movies. The best rating in each category is 5 stars. At the end of our testing, these were the results: Wharfedale PC DX12: 3.5 Stars Velodyne SPL 1200: 4.0 Stars HSU VTF-3 MKII: 4.0 Stars Intimus S-12: 3.25 Stars Infinity Alpha 1200S: 3.5 Stars SVS PB12-ISD: 5.0 Stars So basically each of us tested all five of these subs. Take it for what it's worth, but we all had the same opinion about the SVS PB12-ISD. Clean, deep, punchy, accurate, and just very well rounded bass!!! Not only did it blend in seamleslly with each of our different gear, but it complimented and brought us to a different level of audio and movie listening. All 5 of us sent e-mails to all of these subwoofer companies. The only company that was very responsive was SV. Mind you we didn't get a response from just anyone, we got responses from the founders (Ron S. & Tom V.). Now that is quality service! Never did they talk down or bad mouth the competition. Everything stated by Ron & Tom was backed up with reviews that are readily accessible to the public. We did receive responses from others, including HSU and Wharfedale, but most of their comments were more biased rather than factual. On that note most of the other companies would bash or bad mouth the others without really justifying how they were better. SVS was the only company that maintained class! In conclusion, the SVS PB12-ISD is the subwoofer of choice! If you are on the market for a subwoofer, look no further! Dollar for dollar, nothing even comes close! I have a feeling the $599 price point will be going up pretty soon. Everyone that I refer over to SVS tells me that they are out of stock. That alone tells you how good the sub is!

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 14 2009, 11:48 AM

Oh no!!!

My order has hit a brick wall! I got this from Erik this morning.

Unfortunately we’re having a little bit of a problem with the shipping quote for you. Correct me if they’re wrong but they’re telling me that you’re in a somewhat remote region of Borneo? The quote they gave for the PB12-NSD was for Kuala Lumpur and might not actually apply to your location (it was done by a junior rep and they might not honor it). When I submitted the quote for the PC12-NSD a senior rep informed me they had to determine what their options were for the area and that led me to ask about the first quote. They are trying to determine if they can even do a door to door shipment to you at all. I will let you know as soon as they get back to me on the situation. Is there any chance you have a location in Kuala Lumpur we could ship it to? It would probably be significantly less expensive and easier to arrange.

I apologize about the confusion and we’re going to push on them as hard as possible to get the sub delivered to you at your home at a reasonable rate. We may be able to force them to honor the first quote delivered to you even though they made a mistake. But like I said we need to get some confirmation on what they can actually do to your location first before anything else. I hope to hear back from them on Monday but if you don’t hear back from me by late Monday bounce us an email and I’ll light a fire under them to get a resolution.

I'm working on alternative ways to get it ship to me. SVS too good to give up!

The PB is heavier than the PC, so the PC's shipping cost should be cheaper. Afterall, the PC and the PB sound the same according to SVS. I don't know about the Velo SPL but everything I read on the net seems to point me back to the SVS. One thing for sure is that you cannot go wrong with the SVS product.

the other thing that impress me is that there are spare parts for all the SVS products which you can order and replace it yourself should you need any later in the product life. Of all the speakers manufacturer out there, you might be out of luck if your speakers got problem and has been discontinued.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 14 2009, 04:09 PM

I am looking to shipping it to Kuching or Brunei. Brunei looks like a good option as there is no tax in Brunei and it is only 2 hrs drive from Miri. The last options is to have it ship to KL.

You have a good point. Oh...so you do own the PB12-NSD. I heard that this thing sounds great with music too as there is not a single hint of boominess. Is that true?

I personally believe that the PB12-NSD would blew the Velo 12R out of the water. The reason is that the I have the velo 12R now and its just not so good with music. Many user have confirm that the PB12-NSD can go as low as 17Hz and that is just crazy for that price!

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Added on June 14, 2009, 4:47 pmI know I sound over enthusiastic for the PC12-NSD, but I can't help it from what I read from user all around the world. I think for those who have own a better woofers like the Velo SPL etc they might not feel that much of an improvement from the PC12-NSD.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 14 2009, 04:48 PM

True the SPL Ultra have got some serious driver, but I hope that the size and the huge and long port of the SVS will make up for that.

A showdown between the SPL1200R and the PC12-NSD would be great if jwyj agreed to it... But at the moment I have to work on how to get it first.

I am too deep into the SVS already. I just want my bass to be "SVS Certified"

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 14 2009, 05:26 PM

Can we trust internet reviews from user?

Look at this one...

This is actually an updated review for the PB12-ISD subwoofer that I received and reviewed approximately one-week ago. Please again note that I am reviewing (re-reviewing) the PB2-ISD subwoofer here as there is no separate section in Audio Review for an evaluation of this specific model of subwoofer. After having used the subwoofer for about a week, and learning more about its operation, I think that more and more it is an excellent value for the money. I have revisited and relistened to some of the other subwoofers that I was considering purchasing such as the REL Strata(??)and Stadium III's, B&W ASW 750, Velomax 1200, Klipsch RSW's (all woofer sizes), etc. and find that this subwoofer is at least as good, if not better, than most of the aforementioned subs, except for the $3,000.00 REL Stadium III. (The REL Stadium III is not any more dynamic or powerful, but does have a bit tighter, cleaner and faster bass response than does the SVS. However, again, the REL Stadium III is a $3k subwoofer so this is not really an appropriate comparison.) Other than the REL Stadium III, these other subwoofers were no more pleasing to the ear or more effective in producing bass levels than was the SVS. In some cases, these more expensive subwoofers were a bit weak, in my humble opinion. The SVS remains a very powerful bass producing sub. The bass easily can shake a room and goes reasonably low enough to capture almost all of the low bass sound tracks that exists on DVD, etc. When I first set up the subwoofer, it had a tendency to get "boomy" with bass heavy movie DVD soundtracks. Fortunately, I have been able to largely (but not quite completely)cure this tendency by moving the subwoofer more towards the side of the room (away from the corner), and to reduce the gain/volume somewhat when playing bass heavy movies/HT DVD's. By the way, even with the reduction in gain/volume, the reduced subwoofer setting still allows for plenty of bass production and will result in ample room shake, etc. when called upon to do so. Also, it should be clearly noted that the customer service recently received from Tom V of SVS Subwoofers when dealing with the boominess issue has been absolutely first rate. Tom has promptly and comprehensively responded to all of my inquiries in a largely successful effort to reduce the boominess issue. I greatly appreciate this high level of customer service. It should be a good lesson for us all. All in all, I believe that the PB2-ISD subwoofer is a terrific value for the money. Is it the best subwoofer out there? No. However, I have listened to a number of subwoofers and have discovered that I would have to pay at least $3k to exceed the quality of this subwoofer. Moreover, I suspect that there are other $3k subwoofers out there that are not as good as the SVS.

For those curious to know how the entry level SVS PB12-NSD would compare to the Velodyne SPL1200R. Below are the links to the results of the older PB12-NSD and the SPL 1200MK2 (replace by the SPL1200R) in test done by the Infamous Finnish Subwoofer Tests performed by Ilkka Rissanen.

Velo SPL1200MK2

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SVS PB12-NSD

I think the results are pretty obvious.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 15 2009, 02:21 AM

Is there a SVS owner from Brunei here? I would like to contact him.

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Added on June 15, 2009, 11:23 amSo are you order the SVS too and how?

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 15 2009, 11:23 AM

Everything i read about SVS is just incredible. Can't wait for SVS to get back to me with alternative shipping.

The REL T1 that I audition is good but somehow during my audition when i bring up the volume, the REL T1 produce "Blat" sound. I guess the very small size of the T1 just could not go very loud. Its good for small size room as the bass is incredible tight but at RM2900 is too expensive considering I can get the SVS PC12-NSD at less than RM4k.

Still trying to solve the shipping issue with SVS.

By the way, Ron of SVS did mention to me that you are going to meet him in Singapore on the 19thJune. He invited me to meet up with him but too bad I'm still working offshore during that time. Hope that you can work out something with him and get the dealership of SVS in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 16 2009, 11:05 AM

What? PB10NSD already cost USD500 d2d? The last time i got quote for PB12-NSD is only USD315.

I'm still waiting for the reply on whether they can send it to Brunei. I believe there is no tax in brunei.

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Added on June 16, 2009, 5:50 pmAre they selling it in Singapore during Ron's visit there? It might be good to get from there then.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 16 2009, 05:50 PM

Do you mind letting me know who are those 6? I would like to contact them regarding how they get their SVS.

Do there order to Brunei or to KL

When d2a, how do we know when to go collect it?

With all the bass and high end HT stuffs most lyn forumers have, I doubt anyone can hear the PS3 fan!