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This post has been edited by lola90: Jun 20 2010, 10:47 PM

go UMMC.. semi-govt.
psychiatrist wont prescribe anti-depression before the really diagnose u with depression...

Are you that depressed?

Maybe you could try talking about it with your parents first

The worst thing is telling your parents and your partner's doesn't understand you. I once told my mom and she straight away brought me to the psychiatrist. Telling the DR that I was crazy. That is the last thing I wanted to hear. As someone who is seriously depressed this is the last thing you would wanna do.

To me depression comes in many ways and many forms. Sometimes I'll be normal sometimes I'll just go crazy and sometimes I'll be very quiet. Few years back I did try some anti-depression pills it did work to stop my brain from thinking too much. After that it kinda stop giving me anything and I couldn't sleep after that so I quit taking them.

I do go to my GP to talk about it and she is very understanding and somehow she chats with me and made me feel better. My kind of depression is that I cannot talk to anyone. I used to write diaries and that is my way of talking out my problems.

I suggest that keep yourself busy doing things that you like. Do not be afraid of yourself. Loving yourself is the most important thing. Don't be afraid to be different. I love myself very much no matter how I look like. I'm not pretty nor have a good figure but I love myself and care for myself very much. I have a few health conditions and telling other ppl like friends even my parents doesn't understand me well which tears my heart apart. To my parents I'm just lazy but to my GP she worries about me and so happy to see me at least she gets to monitor my health.

Another thing is to get proper sleep and rest. Once you get proper sleep everything will get better. If you can talk to someone talk to them. Like me I can only talk to one of my kor, he's not related to me but he is the only one in this world who can help me and who understands me. I don't like ppl who scold me when I want someone to listen to me or when I need advice. I cry easily and I hate it when my dad scolds me when I cry.

I hope that you can overcome this. I'm trying very hard also. Believe in yourself and love yourself more. Do things that you like. Do not be afraid of yourself

You don't have to result to medication if you don't like it. I don't. Eat well and sleep well really helps.

Very good advice from the poster above me, and I'd like to add my own. Please try everything else before you resort to drugs. First thing is try to find someone who you trust and can talk to, that is a very big step to sharing your problems and to relieve the burden a bit. You will feel much better if there's someone to support you. If you really can't think of anyone or are just too embarrassed, you can try calling the Befrienders. They will lend a listening ear as long as you want, and empower you to have a better look at your situation.

http://www.befrienders.org.my/

2nd thing is to figure out why you're depressed. Is it because of your body image? studies? social problems? Whatever the reason, try to read more about the subject and improve yourself in whatever area you're lacking. Exercise, lose weight, learn how to look good, eat healthy, spent more time studying, and get some hobbies, watch shows you'll be interested in. Keep your mind occupied instead of doing nothing and having self-pity, that's the worst scenario for self-destruction. I like this quote I read from someone:

"Whatever you focus on is what you will get. Stay focused on fear and that is what you will get..fear and failure.
Focus on results and the power of belief and change, that is what you’ll get.
When you stay less focused on your journey to a goal and put all your focus on the goal itself.
Surround yourself with positive mentors and people who are good at what you want to become and what you want out of life."

If any case, it will be a long journey ahead of you but don't give up. Focus on bettering yourself day by day and don't stop progressing in life.

Yeahh I do agree with *fearz* as well. It took me quite a long time to realise this and get things straight. Try not to rush yourself. Follow on your own pace. Do whatever that you feel comfortable with. You don't need to do things that others do just to get in the crowd. I'm a closed up person and it doesn't bothers me. I don't have many friends but I do get along well and am talkative, which is kinda opposite of me when I'm at home. It took me some time to find out that my problems came up from home and my own family.

I do hope that you get to solve your problem soon but just don't rush things. Yea I heard of the befrienders too and wanted to be one of them. Til now I still do not have the guts to call them yet. I'm very picky when it comes to speaking with someone and telling out my problems. I still just talk to my kor only. He's the best

Maybe becoz I'm stubborn so I don't result to intoxication, smoking or gambling or somesort. I do not depend on something unlike some friends whom I know who has a little depression as well. Maybe is just their personality or their will power. It all depends entirely on individual.

You can try writing or somesort. Some people write blogs to release their feelings. I am trying to write blog too but it needs a really big courage of mine to do that. I'm not at that stage yet. And only recently that I found out it's okay to get away and avoid your problem sometimes. I'm the type that alwiz wanna solve the problems myself without consulting anyone. Took me quite long to figure this out. So now when I really can't sort things out I take a break for a while. Go relax and if I can't afford it I just go shopping or just go out for drinks with friends. Just to get my mind off what I was busy thinking about. It helps Building up hobbies helps too.

My depression led to insomnia and it resulted quite a bit. Getting bad health issues and blood disorders kinda bothers me as well. Which is supposed to make the depression worse. I have a slight anxiety as well and a few phobias. I have a phobia of having meals alone which makes me rather eat alone at home. I can't get out sometimes coz knowing that I'm alone and lonely. I cannot handle myself well at crowded places. I have a problem with buying things when I'm on my own.

I hope this helps that you are not alone. Don't worry too much

This post has been edited by j3nny9irl: May 16 2009, 02:02 AM

Might want to call the Befrienders 24 hours.
They know who and where you can refer to.

http://www.befrienders.org.my/

KL:
03-7956 8144
03-7956 8145

Hi TS

Remember sadness is always temporary. There are many effective ways to overcome depression. Fortunately, we can control our thoughts and feelings much more than most people realize.

I was like you previously whereby I had no one to talk and I can't share my depressed mood with anyone but I built up my own strength and open up my mind. The world is enormous. Therefore, learn to relax and pull yourself out from the little box.

I do not know what contributes to your depression, so badly that you need to consult a psychiatrist. There was someone advised me to see a psychiatrist to overcome my depression state, once. I objected the idea coz I believe that it may not be permanent cure. Only you can help yourself. So, be STRONG. Try and remember that trials give you strength and today's sorrow will give you understanding and wisdom. When it is over, you will realized what you feel now is unnecessary.

Perhaps you can try to focus your attention elsewhere. I know it is easier said than done but believe me, it hleps. So, find some new interests or activities. They are very important in mental health, contributing to self-esteem and happiness. They give satisfaction, help make you feel good about yourself, and keep your mind off problems and negative thoughts and emotions.

This post has been edited by vivi79: May 16 2009, 12:23 PM

There are lots of people very eager to give advice for depressed people (for who has not been depressed once in a while), but very few who understand severe clinical depression. Look at the above for examples of clueless people.

If you've come to the stage where you feel an urgent need for medical help, go. You feel life is not worth living? Should just jump out of a window and end it all? Go quickly. To a real specialist.

Clinical depression is a medical condition. Talking doesn't help. Medication does.

You do have your facts and so do others. As long as we dont spam, we have our rights to express views.
Therefore, you are in no position to say that others are clueless.

I have one word for you......talk......like some kind soul posted the befrienders they're a good start. Please dont delay.

More stupidity and sheer ignorance from people who think they know everything.

1. How do you know none of us have experienced depression? Psychic powers? GJ on knowing me better over an internet forum than I know myself. And yes I have been depressed for years myself, and the only place I'll admit that to is on a forum where noone knows me because its embarassing and awkward as hell. Did I do drugs to get out of it? No. Am I out of it? Yes.

2. None of us said don't visit a psychiatrist, someone even said she visited a GP and it helped her a lot. We said TRY EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST before taking drugs, not go and pop them like candy expecting it to be a miracle lifetime cure. You're saying that's wrong? lol

3. Talking doesn't help? lol i can't even begin to comprehend why you would make such a statement. What do you think they do when they visit a psychiatrist? go there and cry? In case you didn't notice, human beings are social creatures and talking to someone who truly cares and understands you without being judgmental (hint: someone like you) is invaluable to life. Talking to someone you pay $$$ to see isn't the same at all.

4. If people didn't care about her genuinely, this thread would have 0 replies, including your worthless post not addressing the question the TS asked in hers.

This post has been edited by fearz: May 18 2009, 01:54 PM

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Added on May 19, 2009, 11:39 pmb4 giving drugs they will counselling / psychotherapy 1st
also=talking lo
but psychiatrist has objective while commoner will juz chat wateva they 1
but go to psy clinic is embaressing to some ppl (the disadvantage)

This post has been edited by sakpn2000: May 19 2009, 11:39 PM

Hmm Just some ppl who are unsure of what they are facing maybe just chatting first would be fine. Later on when you have a clear picture they will know what to do afterwards.

Like for me, no matter what seeing the psychiatrist still seeing a psychiatrist. I cannot stand the DR jotting down everything when I'm talking. Pretending he's just trying to layan me like that. Sometimes I just cannot stand the way he looked at me. This is how I feel. Some might not feel like this. Oh well I went once and never wanna go again and that cause my mom forced me and she thought I wanted to kill myself. She argued with me and called me crazy. That is one reason why I couldn't talk to my parents. I know them too well which made me kept quiet all these years. I rather write my diary or come online to speak with someone whom I do not know at all.

After all it all depends on individual. This is just my point of view on me

difficult behaviour to change

y she thought tat? u slit ur wrist b4 or said stg?

This post has been edited by sakpn2000: May 20 2009, 02:24 AM

Hmmm I have this very very farnee relationship with my mom. Kinda embarassing to say and it's off topic here

Better not say ler...


EHhh correction... she thought I wanna kill myself only coz she thinks I'm crazy. But I didn't do anything stupid lahhhh I just had a hysteria that day I think.

This post has been edited by j3nny9irl: May 20 2009, 02:40 AM

Is this a piece of good advice here? A depressed person might just grab SOME of your words and go jump out of a window and not coming back to this thread and thank you for that. Please watch your words, since u dont sound like you are a specialist as well.

Hi I would like to thank you for replying coz if not becoz of your reply I wouldn't get the link to Go greener that you provided on your signature

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My advice

I don't know any good psychiatrist here in Malaysia so I can't answer your question, however there are a few things you should know about depression and seeking medical attention for it.

First of all there is a difference between normal depression and clinical depression. Normal depression would be you're just having some problem which have gone out of your control and that causes you emotional problem and you may want to do irrational stuff. This can be treated simply by talking to friend or anyone. Depends who works best for you. The goal is to set your mind straight again, sort out your problem and prevent you from doing anything irrational in the time being. Maybe a counsellor, psychiatrist or psychologist may be the better person to talk to since they are trained in methods to help you get back on track faster and safer. It also depends what you're comfortable with.

You may also have clinical depression which symptom are just like any other depression. The difference is there is some chemical changes in your brain that causes you to be depressed even if you have no reason to be. You can really tell for yourself cause no one is this world is really problem free. This is where it's actually good to see a psychologist or psychiatrist to see if you have clinical depression or not. Because without drugs you can't overcome clinical depression

Depression drugs work in a way to prevent your mood fluctuations from becoming too great at any point. For example you could suddenly become uber depressed and take your life all the sudden. These drug up to a certain degree to control your mood. So it may be a wise idea to take it until you sort out your depression problem. But for the same reasons you may want to opt not to take the drugs for reasons such as you don't want to feel happy over nothing and also you may be scared of developing a dependency on those drugs.

Also throughout all this be sure to have a responsible person who you can share your problems with and who can look out for your safety. It can be anyone from your parents, friends, doctors, whoever you trust and is willing to spend time keeping and eye on you and a ear out for your problems. This is very important because you may at any time lose your strength to keep going and fall into greater depression or even worse do something reckless.

Also you may want to consult a counsellor or psychologist first. The reason is psychiatrist being doctors are generally more assertive. They are more concern on nailing the problem fast and administering treatment and are also more prone to strongly recommending drugs as they are docs. Psychologist will always try talking it out first.

I think she has jumped already. Notice the original post was from 2 weeks ago.