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TSLayman-kun
post May 8 2009, 03:13 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi, I'm a beginner for acoustic and classical guitar which I played over 1yr and half.

I'm really struggling to read those music sheets that I found in web, be it chinese songs sheets or english. Although some of those I manage to intepret correctly, I cant played out the melody of the songs although the guitar tuned correctly. hmm.gif

Anyone pls can share me some music/songs sheets thats easy to play and interpret (not country and folks songs pls sweat.gif )? Any advice is welcomed.

Thx very much!!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post May 8 2009, 04:31 PM

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You mean the taugeh notations?
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post May 8 2009, 06:05 PM

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first know the basic - key sign, time signature, the notation itself

get familiar with the rhythmic part first ( tail ) - triplet, quintriplet, off beat. (if u check out guitar mag, they use tab with the tail to help reader with the rhythm.

the note of course represent by the dot. not the hardest part for me. only need to be memorized.

i'm still prefer tab for my notation, don't know when would I concentrate on reading notation.
but yes, sight reading is an advantage for guitarist. but u need to work on it.



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post May 8 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(m3er @ May 8 2009, 06:05 PM)
first know the basic - key sign, time signature, the notation itself

get familiar with the rhythmic part first ( tail ) - triplet, quintriplet, off beat. (if u check out guitar mag, they use tab with the tail to help reader with the rhythm.

the note of course represent by the dot. not the hardest part for me. only need to be memorized.

i'm still prefer tab for my notation, don't know when would I concentrate on reading notation.
but yes, sight reading is an advantage for guitarist. but u need to work on it.
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I ve known all the basics(well, quite). But I didnt know those octaves, riffs and harmonics. I do refer some theories through internet and how to read sheets however its complete opposite when I look at those sheets particularly on chinese songs in those chinese web. The guitar almost couldnt produce when i strum it using barre chords goin down the neck.

I got listen to those songs i would like to play to get the tempo with the chords given but cant produce the melody as the song does. Any advice, sir?


Added on May 8, 2009, 11:25 pm
QUOTE(Eugenet @ May 8 2009, 04:31 PM)
You mean the taugeh notations?
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Yep, some are upside and downside. although the section is 4/4 but got so many "taugeh" with I dont really noe how to get the beats rite. rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by Layman-kun: May 8 2009, 11:25 PM
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post May 8 2009, 11:36 PM

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if you are refering to taugeh notes,i dont think its easy to explain it all here >..<
try google =D
it always works
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post May 9 2009, 12:38 PM

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Haha, gotta look a each web 2 c which is suitable to learn.

I have trouble switching chords for example C major to G major smoothly and precisely. Same goes to barre chords.

After a yr more of playing n practising oso cannot play a song, very sad cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post May 9 2009, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Layman-kun @ May 8 2009, 11:22 PM)
I ve known all the basics(well, quite). But I didnt know those octaves, riffs and harmonics. I do refer some theories through internet and how to read sheets however its complete opposite when I look at those sheets particularly on chinese songs in those chinese web.  The guitar almost couldnt produce when i strum it using barre chords goin down the neck.

I got listen to those songs i would like to play to get the tempo with the chords given but cant produce the melody as the song does. Any advice, sir?


Added on May 8, 2009, 11:25 pm

Yep, some are upside and downside. although the section is 4/4 but  got so many "taugeh" with I dont really noe how to get the beats rite. rclxub.gif
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it's better if u state what u want to know then

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post May 9 2009, 08:56 PM

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I only know power chords, minor chords, major chords >.< cause playing rythm & classic rocks lol.

Why dont you try reading tabs ? Those taugeh hard for sight-reading & play.
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post May 9 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ May 9 2009, 08:56 PM)
I only know power chords, minor chords, major chords >.< cause playing rythm & classic rocks lol.

Why dont you try reading tabs ? Those taugeh hard for sight-reading & play.
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Yeah, tabs are so so much easier. Sorry to rob the thread but is learning the taugeh notes vital to being a better player?? I would think its subjective
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post May 9 2009, 11:47 PM

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I think learning taugeh is for those serious musicians =.=
I'm part-timer lol.
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post May 10 2009, 12:00 AM

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ok for me some part of it is essential for all guitarist to at least know about them.

for example, the rhythmic pattern. even if u read some tabs out there, they still come in rhythmic notation (tail).

why is this important? to help you precisely play your your notes on time of course.

help you practise with metronome and other thing. it all came from the notation.

and is it important to master sight reading?
if you ask me, my answer is yes and no.

if youre on a band which everyone rely on notation to put things together (should be really serious band lah this, or maybe sessionists band) then it's important to sight read.

but if you are on a band that simply play cover which u can rely on tab (which 90% u already know the arrangement, your line) then it can be pretty optional to have the ability of sight reading isnt it.

so i guess, the first is to know in what scenario are you now.

after all that's what i think lah. maybe it doesnt goes everyone's way.
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post May 10 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(m3er @ May 9 2009, 02:41 PM)
it's better if u state what u want to know then
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Basically all I wanna know is how to read a sheet music. Like most sheet I found is not in the form of "taugeh notes" and is in the form of the chord name above with the lyrics below. No time signatures, staff, notations. This kind of sheet I really struggling to find its beat and how shd play out its melody. sweat.gif
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post May 10 2009, 12:36 AM

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Go download the song. Listen to the beats & strumming patterns carefully. Then, practice the chords slowly. You'll get better after sometime.

I know which type of " music sheet " you are talking about.

There are chord keys above the lyrics rights ?
Yes, download the song & play along with it. Or you can find the backing track.
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post May 10 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ May 10 2009, 12:36 AM)
Go download the song. Listen to the beats & strumming patterns carefully. Then, practice the chords slowly. You'll get better after sometime.

I know which type of " music sheet " you are talking about.

There are chord keys above the lyrics rights ?
Yes, download the song & play along with it. Or you can find the backing track.
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Yup, u r absolutely right rclxms.gif rclxms.gif I'll try to work on that.

Now I have another thought: Thr r some songs which I listen eventhough is played by guitar but can't find these guitar sheets in web. Although one can listen the songs repeatedly and get the patterns gradually, but trying to get the chords right consumes huge amount of time. So any 1 had any idea how to make such tasks possible n in simpler way?

Thr u ve. The lousiest beginner guitarist in 21st century in M'sia tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post May 10 2009, 05:02 PM

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Easiest way , skip that song if you dont have the tabs or chords LOL.
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post May 10 2009, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ May 10 2009, 05:02 PM)
Easiest way , skip that song if you dont have the tabs or chords LOL.
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Best advice. Unless you so geng can PBE. Then I salute you lah. Or bow at your feet notworthy.gif

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post May 10 2009, 09:55 PM

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lol, i tot what was the problem.

like xMika said lah, hear the song.
big part of music is hearing, not reading smile.gif

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post May 11 2009, 12:10 AM

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So guys is thr any site that can link me to play beginner songs? My main goal for now is to play one songs. Thats all I would want now. At least I can show some results to my parents.

Sry guys......
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post May 11 2009, 02:46 AM

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Why dont you buy guitar learning books like " Guitar for dummies 2nd edition " ? I bought that book 3 weeks ago & now i am learning fast from that book. I can play at least 10 songs already ... power chord based rock songs, major chords, minor chords, broken chord, all those inside the book got teach. " Power chord learnt by myself through experimenting & watching youtube videos & guitar tablatures "
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post May 11 2009, 11:11 AM

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Away from the topic a while.

Which guitar do u guys tink sounds better? Acoustic or classical? I'm still little puzzled whether I shd pay concentration on play classical n dump acoustic or vice versa. Hope to get opinion and advice from all of u notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

My friends told me I was kinda outdated by rely on tab to guitar, is it so?

I hope and try 2 achieve a balance between fingger-picking n strumming techniques, but the fact is now I'm concentrating finger-picking instead of strumming. As the problems back to the original point, I ve a little resources strumming songs sheet for beginners, be it in internet or guidance book found in bookstore. Any ideas?
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I prefer video to books. I have trouble learning from books, even school textbooks tongue.gif. I prefer visual stimulus.

Bro Layman, you have a classical or acoustic right now? See what music you like. But fingerpicking =/= classical guitar. Acoustic also can pick. Wah, which guitar sounds better is very subjective. I like the 'mellow' sound of classical strings but prefer the general sound of a good acoustic. I like lots of bass, hehe. But you can get classical sound on acoustic, sort of lah, get Silk and Steel strings.

I can't read musical notation even if someone offer me $$$. So I rely on tab. There are also programs to 'play' the tab for you. I think someone called music notes 'taugeh', hehe.

Well if you like finger-picking, finger-pick. I like strumming but I do fingerpicking too. Always kena that question in guitar stores. But my technique limited to hammer-ons only. Cannot do pull offs.

Youtube always has good lessons. I learned the riff to 'Wonderwall' from there. But my favourite site is this one :

http://grahamchoo.blogspot.com

Mainly Christian music but there are good contemporary music lessons too.

Try learning 'Time of Your Life' from Green Day. I can send you the chords I wrote for it if you want. The beginner song thread also good for suggestions.


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post May 12 2009, 01:05 AM

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I agree with u, sir nod.gif In fact I do reckon the best is when thr is a tutor at side n teach. At least the tutor can advice or suggest when things is goin wrong. Books can give u in a form of reference. Due my parents strong believe I would able 2 learn through net, I ve never met a tutor n I dun ve the intention 2 against n fight over my parents decision

Then I still gotta play more a while to discover it. But taugeh notes is seriously hard to learn, well, not so, just that didnt ve much time to give much effort in studying it. Meaning in the end I should stick 2 finger-picking 1st. Acoustic plays a more crisper sound while classical play a bit more soft tone sound. Thats wat I found out of so far.

Thanks mate 4 providing this link. I appreciate it. Hopefully I'll able 2 make some progress from it. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif


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post May 12 2009, 01:57 PM

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Well I didn't listen to my parents and ended up with crap teachers. Sometimes parents have this sixth sense hehehe.

Whatever you feel comfortable with. I hate taugeh notes too. The first paper I ever failed in sekolah rendah was Music heh.

Glad to be of service bro nod.gif
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Taugeh/sheet music is the same as everything else - comes with practice. There is no way around it - you have to get "theory" books and read it, do exercises, etc. You don't need a guitar to do it, and once you learn it, it's applicable to any instrument!

It just takes some time and dedication on your part to learn it. Don't worry about sight reading for now, just learn how to read it and then apply it. As you get better at reading it, you can move on to sight reading while playing.

The upside to tabs are that they are easy to learn, specifically for guitar and you can find free tabs on the web. But the
downside to tabs and chord notation are that the timing (time signature) is not usually apparent or obvious in the tablature. You have to know the song pretty well, arrangement-wise, to be able to play it.

If someone just hands you a piece of sheet music (taugeh), you can pretty much just sit down and play it. If someone hands you some tab, you can play the right notes, but you'll have no idea of the melody or timing unless you know the song.
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you might want to try out this site:

http://www.justinguitar.com/en/AA-000-LessonIndex.php

the lessons are very detailed. though, i do think he talks too long yawn.gif
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post May 13 2009, 12:31 PM

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LONG LIVE TABS!!! biggrin.gif
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Thanks ryuuzaki for the site. I'm trying to learn Have You Even Seen the Rain now. F chords are killers sad.gif.
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guitar pro or powertab have both tab and taugeh. up to u to pick.
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QUOTE(Layman-kun @ May 10 2009, 04:56 PM)
Yup, u r absolutely right rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  I'll try to work on that.

Now I have another thought: Thr r some songs which I listen eventhough is played by guitar but can't find these guitar sheets in web. Although one can listen the songs repeatedly and get the patterns gradually, but trying to get the chords right consumes huge amount of time. So any 1 had any idea how to make such tasks possible n in simpler way?

Thr u ve. The lousiest beginner guitarist in 21st century in M'sia tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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im not good either but this is wut i normally do..
i find the bass note or root noot first.. such as A, D and F..
then i know its in minor key..so the first chord is Aminor..
then i'll try any variation of the D and F that i know which is very limited that sounds like the chord in the song..
or just lookup in the chord dictionary book..

that works for me..
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Hmm, if you play covers, try learn to play by listening..

Overtime, you'll become more flexible, in terms of type of music you are playing.

I do understand taugeh and tabs, but , i cant sight read... tongue.gif

Who cares, i'm a part-timer.

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