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MakanTidurSaham
post Oct 19 2009, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Oct 19 2009, 07:21 PM)
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the 4th Tranche may be converted is approximately 149,378,000 SAAG Shares.
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Apart from the abovesaid exchange price and exchange rate, all other principal
terms and conditions of the Exchangeable Bonds to be issued in respect of the
4th Tranche will be determined and announced at a later date.
This announcement is dated 3 September 2009.
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Referring to the latest announcement on Oct 7th 2009
9652 SAAG SAAG CONSOLIDATED (M) BHD
SAAG-Quotation for 52,282,300 new ordinary shares of RM0.10 each pursuant to

the exchange of the USD3.5 million five (5)-year exchangeable bonds issued
under the fourth tranche (Exchange)LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q : 54739 OF 2009
Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Companys additional 52,282,300 new
ordinary shares
of RM0.10 each issued pursuant to the Exchange will be granted
listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Thursday, 8 October 2009.
Head, Issuers, Listing Div



Th 4th tranche already released, why there's only 52,282,300 new
ordinary shares granted listing? Like I said earlier, maybe there's a limit to issuing new shares.









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post Oct 19 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 19 2009, 08:20 PM)
Referring to the latest announcement on Oct 7th 2009
9652    SAAG    SAAG CONSOLIDATED (M) BHD 
SAAG-Quotation for 52,282,300 new ordinary shares of RM0.10 each pursuant to 

the exchange of the USD3.5 million five (5)-year exchangeable bonds issued
under the fourth tranche (Exchange)LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q :  54739 OF  2009
Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Companys additional 52,282,300 new
ordinary shares
of RM0.10 each issued pursuant to the Exchange will be granted
listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Thursday, 8 October 2009.
Head, Issuers, Listing Div

Th 4th tranche already released, why there's only 52,282,300 new
ordinary shares granted listing? Like I said earlier, maybe there's a limit to issuing new shares.
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ok ok you win.
i agreed to to what alenac said, so we will see by then, wil saag becomes the next oilcorp, don't say red flag isn't rised before.
now saag having equal cash and debt ratio, so consider middle health only.
after they use their cash to pay their debt, there's nothing left, at all
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post Oct 19 2009, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Oct 19 2009, 11:10 PM)
ok ok you win.
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Seriously this is not about winning a debate, if you brought up some inaccurate infos, I just have to correct them...that's all.
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post Oct 20 2009, 12:03 AM

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post Oct 20 2009, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Oct 20 2009, 12:03 AM)
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You were wrong last time, you want to bet again? laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(alenac @ Oct 19 2009, 08:13 PM)
well sjz, how du u stop a falling knife?

on 14th october 2009 I noted,

"Well I agreed there is a dilution by Bond conversion to shares. But there were heavy sales of shares in the other coporate shareholders i suspect also owned by them. Now just think why are the Bondholders doing that if they can get 12% interest. Cos the bonds are junked. Escape strategy by bondholders to unload once converted. The runup this time could be the last hooray b4 it sinks. But anyway those who bought high hope u get out with ur capital. As the goreng frensies are not connected with its fundamental. Welcome to Casino Royale! "

So more shares issued who's gonna to absorbed them unless SAAG can announced substantial contracts clinched then prospective earnings can support price runup?

Anyway guys rotational play has started with other penny counters starting with SKpres and moving to other soon invested gamblers are spoilt for choice. Casino Royale is ongoing......................
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At least 7155 pay divvy 0.05 vs SAAG pay telur ayam... vmad.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 19 2009, 11:54 PM)
Seriously this is not about winning a debate, if you brought up some inaccurate infos, I just have to correct them...that's all.
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ok, you win, although this is not a debate as you claim but you sounded like it was 1.
my info inaccurrate?
ok fine then, your info is the most accurate info in the world, your prediction is the best in the world, all analyst like OSK in Malaysia can't compete with you at all, your info and prediction is 101% if not 1001% accurate .
no time to argue with type of ppl like you
the type that keep on finding trouble & quarrel with others, eg. your reply against sampool post, want to bet again
WHAT A JOKE! Grow up pls.

QUOTE(sampool @ Oct 20 2009, 12:03 AM)
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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 20 2009, 12:06 AM)
You were wrong last time, you want to bet again?  laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 10:07 AM

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Predicting the share price is a very subjective matter. Like what Mr. Makantidursaham mentioned, the price of SAAG could go up to 0.32, I agree with that but it might take 1 week or 1 year, who knows? Last time I bought IJMLAND-WA at 0.3 and sold at 0.67, I thought it was a very high price but today it is 1.30++.
You can win in buying share if you are patient enough to wait for the rally, look at Genting's price now compared to 8 months ago.
Maybe what Mr. sjz want is short term profit, but Mr. Makantidursaham is aiming for long term profit from SAAG.
I think SAAG will not perform much today, now 10.15am price is 0.24 but buying 0.235 & selling 0.24, not a good sign. Unless some people start to play the "goreng" game...

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post Oct 20 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ckgoh3 @ Oct 20 2009, 10:07 AM)
Predicting the share price is a very subjective matter. Like what Mr. Makantidursaham mentioned, the price of SAAG could go up to 0.32, I agree with that but it might take 1 week or 1 year, who knows? Last time I bought IJMLAND-WA at 0.3 and sold at 0.67, I thought it was a very high price but today it is 1.30++.
You can win in buying share if you are patient enough to wait for the rally, look at Genting's price now compared to 8 months ago.
Maybe what Mr. sjz want is short term profit, but Mr. Makantidursaham is aiming for long term profit from SAAG.
I think SAAG will not perform much today, now 10.15am price is 0.24 but buying 0.235 & selling 0.24, not a good sign. Unless some people start to play the "goreng" game...
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Most good counters will move up to a reasonable price or a bit higher given the time as you so said.
I think what matter to us here most is will it it goes up or down in the immediate future. No point to say it will goes up after it had taken the trip south. If that the case the right trade is sell now and buys later.
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post Oct 20 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(ckgoh3 @ Oct 20 2009, 10:07 AM)
Predicting the share price is a very subjective matter. Like what Mr. Makantidursaham mentioned, the price of SAAG could go up to 0.32, I agree with that but it might take 1 week or 1 year, who knows? Last time I bought IJMLAND-WA at 0.3 and sold at 0.67, I thought it was a very high price but today it is 1.30++.
You can win in buying share if you are patient enough to wait for the rally, look at Genting's price now compared to 8 months ago.
Maybe what Mr. sjz want is short term profit, but Mr. Makantidursaham is aiming for long term profit from SAAG.
I think SAAG will not perform much today, now 10.15am price is 0.24 but buying 0.235 & selling 0.24, not a good sign. Unless some people start to play the "goreng" game...
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Mr.Goh, the price movement is nothing to do with subjective matters such as TECHNICAL ANALYSIS. TA is on historic data, not future data.

Fundamental is the basis if you wanna go long. IJM on the other hand have good profit, mega projects in bag and in bid, what SAAG have?

Its just pure speculative play.

Instead putting your money in SAAG, might as well put in IRIS.
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post Oct 20 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Oct 20 2009, 01:06 PM)
Blah Blah Blah
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If that the case the right trade is sell now and buys later.

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Bottom line, all this naysayers already sold their SAAG's share, betting heavily on the price to go down so they can buy back again. There's no truth to what these people are preaching.

You know what Zaman98, I have warn you again and again, there's gonna be another spike soon within this 2 weeks. If you not going to buy back now...

You will be once again... laugh.gif

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post Oct 20 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 20 2009, 02:43 PM)
Bottom line, all this naysayers already sold their SAAG's share, betting heavily on the price to go down so they can buy back again. There's no truth to what these people are preaching.

You know what Zaman98, I have warn you again and again, there's gonna be another spike soon within this 2 weeks. If you not going to buy back now...

You will be once again... laugh.gif

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Nah, no need to bang my head. SAAG sucks. Simple. Only trend is DOWNTREND.

Spike or not, nothing to worry, it won't be gigantic, as most it can goes is 2cts. that brings you to 0.23+0.02 = 0.25MAX, TOP.

In this scenario, OIL price movement give no favour to SAAG as they have no contract on hand, and not bidding for any. shakehead.gif
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post Oct 20 2009, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 20 2009, 02:52 PM)
Nah, no need to bang my head. SAAG sucks. Simple. Only trend is DOWNTREND.

Spike or not, nothing to worry, it won't be gigantic, as most it can goes is 2cts. that brings you to 0.23+0.02 = 0.25MAX, TOP.

In this scenario, OIL price movement give no favour to SAAG as they have no contract on hand, and not bidding for any.  shakehead.gif
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So far, every bit of my prediction is accurate, SAAG surged, oil price on it's way to USD 100 amid World Economy Recovery plus the in coming 200billion ringgit price tag 2010 Malaysian Budget. icon_rolleyes.gif

When there're so much food on the table, there will be contracts upon contracts for everyone. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 20 2009, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 20 2009, 03:35 PM)
So far, every bit of my prediction is accurate, SAAG surged, oil price on it's way to USD 100 amid World Economy Recovery plus the in coming 200billion ringgit price tag 2010 Malaysian Budget.  icon_rolleyes.gif

When there're so much food on the table, there will be contracts upon contracts for everyone.  thumbup.gif
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aiya, no need to predict on the OIL price. Every one knows where's it heading to, simply of weaker dollar, not demand. Same goes with GOLD, SILVER, platinium, palladium or whatever family they belongs to.

Yes, too much food on the table, but are you invited to the Makan2x session?

If your prediction is correct, you should already be a millionaire by now. now, stop your BS.
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post Oct 20 2009, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 20 2009, 03:56 PM)
aiya, no need to predict on the OIL price. Every one knows where's it heading to, simply of weaker dollar, not demand. Same goes with GOLD, SILVER, platinium, palladium or whatever family they belongs to.

Yes, too much food on the table, but are you invited to the Makan2x session?

If your prediction is correct, you should already be a millionaire by now. now, stop your BS.
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So you still don't understand how the dollar game works. shakehead.gif When US is printing so much money, shoving it down to everyone's throat. But dollar won't devalue, because nobody is dumping the dollar. There's so much liquidity in the market, driving up demand, demand drive up productivity and oil and raw material prices. Literally everything will go up because of that.

How much dollar has decline as compare to oil price which surged from USD 30 to USD 80? Again I'm repeating this, simply doesn't add up.

Am I invited to the Makan2x session? laugh.gif Interesting question.

BS?? How can BS be correct 95% of the time? hmm.gif

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post Oct 20 2009, 04:58 PM

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[quote=zamans98,Oct 20 2009, 03:56 PM]
aiya, no need to predict on the OIL price. Every one knows where's it heading to, simply of weaker dollar, not demand. Same goes with GOLD, SILVER, platinium, palladium or whatever family they belongs to.

Yes, too much food on the table, but are you invited to the Makan2x session?

If your prediction is correct, you should already be a millionaire by now. now, stop your BS.
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BS?? How can BS be correct 95% of the time? hmm.gif
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Haven't answer my question, but avoiding it. If you are say 95% correct, you should be a millionaire now. Even Warren Buffet is wrong, but he's a billionaire.

You got no track record, so its BS.

Oil up, industry production cost up, relevant commodity up, retail price goes up. Everything inter-related. Where is the demand??
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post Oct 20 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 20 2009, 04:58 PM)

You got no track record, so its BS.
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Oil up, industry production cost up, relevant commodity up, retail price goes up. Everything inter-related. Where is the demand??
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So, what track record have you? I beat you left and right Zaman98, do you recall?

>>Where is the demand??
Let's see, trillions of dollar of deficits, could it be America?


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post Oct 20 2009, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 20 2009, 05:15 PM)
So, what track record have you? I beat you left and right Zaman98, do you recall?

>>Where is the demand??
Let's see, trillions of dollar of deficits, could it be America?
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Did you? LOL. Not even near. rclxm9.gif .

Please don't change the subject, boy.I'm talking about your record. Everyone knows mine. Wat you are doing is keep avoiding the question.

The only record u have here is 90% of posting are at SAAG thread.
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post Oct 20 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 20 2009, 05:30 PM)
Did you? LOL. Not even near.  rclxm9.gif .

Please don't change the subject, boy.I'm talking about your record. Everyone knows mine. Wat you are doing is keep avoiding the question.

The only record u have here is 90% of posting are at SAAG thread.
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Sorry lah, I'm new here, the only thing I know about you is calling sell on SAAG at 0.18. And you have been wrong since then, who cares if you can fly. laugh.gif




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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Oct 20 2009, 05:47 PM)
Sorry lah, I'm new here, the only thing I know about you is calling sell on SAAG at 0.18. And you have been wrong since then, who cares if you can fly.  laugh.gif
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ya true, I call for 18c but you called for 32cts. That 32cts is your average price, of course

let do some simple calculation here.

Today close: 0.225

Yours : 0.32, to reach need 0.095 cts or roughly 42% movement needed.
Mine : 0.18, to reach just need 0.045cts.

So, which one is near? Drop 1/2cts to 1cts is faster than rising the same. thumbup.gif

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