yeah, now still RC. but can consider close to full release already
can be used for a year, by that time the full release should be out then.

just waiting for the right time to make the jump to win7, now too much docs on my pc. a lil bit sayang to format

Then i should get a SP2 Vista,not SP1. I spotted the loading time when entering Windows has improved a lot.

@fylon,not sure though. Now i see that the GC is able to contribute while playing HD movies. I'm in the middle to look for low cpu loading with GC' rendering. I suspect my previous k-lite codec is blocking the gc from rendering,found some movie is still utilizing about 50% of my cpu resources. Maybe as you say another few years. 5 years later,maybe straight forward go to Quadcore i7.

HT is useful on our single core proc,dual core proc isn't necessary to have it.

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Added on May 13, 2009, 10:46 amWhat's the feedback on RC copy? I heard people said it's better than Vista too.

This post has been edited by raymond5105: May 13 2009, 10:46 AM

as i was reading up on HT for i7 which i wanted to build, it was mentioned that duals and quads had disabled their HTs for better efficiency

while doing this reading i also found that HT for our P4 had some bad side effects, depending on the tasks run

some of the i7 overclockers in disabled their HT, which tend to affect overclocking and pure performance in some situations

other than that i7 is just a quad, with HT (indicating that intel decided to bring back a new HT which is new and better) comparing to our virtual core

our virtual core doesnt and will never compare to a physical core as our lga 775 successors

@raymond,
on the i7 it was brought back so hence i guess its good , even if its physical core

a quad with HT brings about new considerations however doesnt affect overall performance much in gaming
in encryption and others, HT does make a difference, regardless of S478 or i7

my personal view on HT on our S478 definitely helps in terms of our performance but arguably less on the i7 quads

This post has been edited by Jcsy: May 13 2009, 10:52 AM

@Jcsy,i would say HT on our proc is still pros > cons. You can imagine that 1 core with 1 thread and 1 core with 2 threads + 2 cores and 2 threads. They do have different performance on it. Don't mention quad core here,it's not comparable with single core + HT.

ray, u hit the spot~! that's what we all have been trying 2 say all these while.

simple scenario: a motorbike. can carry 2 person max, consider this HT. you will only need 2 make one trip for 2 person. but if u r looking for speed, then one person on the motorbike will be the best for speed achievements.

Pros and cons of HT. So HT plays a more significant role in single core compared to multicores (motorbike compared to bus, lorry, etc.)

This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 11:53 AM

so far i've read around the web, reviews have been good and mostly positive. seems to be faster and nicer to use compared to vista. but some people also did mentioned that win7 is a gui-improved vista

how's your quest for quaddies? getting it from beginner?

not sure yet. now got other problems to think of
graphic card giving some headache, overheating frequently. don't know due to hot weather or other things.
maybe need to change my gc or casing already.

afaik, HT, be it the old one or new one, is still pretty much apps dependent... it still requires optimization from the software to make use of HT, else it's negative on the apps (games are the example)...

but heck, Intel already stressed many times that i7 was not designed for gamers but workstations and servers instead...

@edmin,a very good scenario with a direct & clear info here. I'm very happy with my rig now,the 3GB of RAM really boost a lot from 1GB. I google that the kignston RAM i got is also a gem,can do 250MHz.

Opps edmin,dak gatal tangan?

Maybe can change the cooling then solve your heat issue?

I agree cause there are many game applications are not beneficial from Ci7.

not edmin, it's me that gatal tangan
most probably might change my casing to one with better airflow, current casing quite tight already.

OH yeah,edmin is on Xeon. Get a nice offer from beginner?

u r absolutely right. workstations and servers benefits the most from this tech. Databases and similar applications do not need pure raw power, instead they need multithreading/multitasking efficiency for I/O purposes. so if a quad becomes octa virtually, the load balancing for all cores (no matter physical or virtual since during the peak load; unlikely no core will hit 100% usage) will do a superb job there.

This post has been edited by edministrator: May 13 2009, 01:03 PM

but like my own personal review, i said HT was better on our single core



i can feel total slowdowns without it boohoo

dual and quad didnt have that, thats all

Hi Jcsy, since you comparing the HT-on and HT-off performance, do you mind to compare the performances of HT-on and HT-off using the Fritz Benchmark program? The Fritz Benchmark program utilizes the multicores while I heard the SuperPI test only utilizes single core. Post your findout here. My P4 is non-HT so I can't compare. Thanks.

http://www.jens.tauchclub-krems.at/diverse...benchmarks.html

You are correct,the software does utilize multi core for benchmarking. Super PI will only utilize up to 50% of your core with HT enable.

the results from Super PI with HT (50%) was actually faster than without HT (100%) !

lol

ok will try that out tonight

the offer can be considered quite reasonable also, coz i also offered my E4400 for trade. but now most probably i'll settle my GC issue first
btw, is it possible to RMA a overheating card?

yes, within warranty period. just tell them what problem you faced for the card, and don't say anything unnecessary, hehe...

unnecessary stuff like?