I understand the argue of the winner for the PFA POTY award this year. Perhaps they should publicized the vote like what they did in World Player of the Year/Ballon D'Or, that would have shut a lot of people's mouth. But asking me whether Giggs deserve it or not? Yes, but based on sentimental value (though he's been consistently good in all the game he played albeit not that frequent). Is there more deserving winners from the other nominees? This one I beg to differ. VDS for all his CS record hardly had a save to make, Ferdinand has been in and out of the game, Ronaldo for all his goals isn't the same as last season, Gerard was having some injury problems as well, Vidic is the most consistent of all until the Liv game (though the poll would have finish by then). They call it the tightest poll for this year as no one really stands out, understandably the sentimental value came in. And why not? If everyone about on par, the sentiments does bring another extra factor in deciding it.

You see... That's always the case.We are all here, discussing, there goes someone trying spark things up.

What majority are you talking about? If you are saying the poll result, save your breath.We all know > 70% of Football Lounge posters are manu fans.

I'm a Liverpool fans but I respect Giggs for his on and off field attitude.I admit that I like him as he is a great footballer but that doesn't make me bias in voicing out my opinion.I didn't say that manu player don't deserve it.I'm saying that Giggs definitely don't deserve it.Vidic, alone deserve the gong more than Giggs.

There is a difference between being a rational supporter and a supporter supporting the club blindly.

wow,u hate my hero!? lol

and again, its not about massive roled played since a decade ago

and again, its not about massive role in development in the team over the years

and again, its not about what he has done all these years.

is it really so hard to understand that it is about this year? PFA is for this year... not about lifetime achievements or etc etc

I agree with this tho "Was Ryan Giggs the best player this year? No." .. you said it yourself, and if I may ask again, is this Award for the Player of the Year or for the Player of the Decade?

You all know the answer which is just funny how it can still be said it is truly deserving

oh well, whatever we say, it'll still look like an attack on a Manc i guess.. so

Peace out

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/152...e-change-needed

http://www.football.co.uk/liverpool/pfa_pl..._rss90088.shtml

I won't be surprise if Gary Neville and Paul Scholes in the list of nominees come next season.

Complete joke.

majority = PFA members

I posted before that I liken this to the Martin Scorcese case. Of course he wasn't the best player this season. He was awarded this by his fellow peers, so if theres anything it would probably to question their wisdom in choosing him. In the first place, the poll is flawed becoz the TS suggested that it was the FA who handed out the award when in fact it was voted for by fellow players. Your beef is obviously with them. Why is it so friggin' hard to comprehend that the larger majority of players voted for him?

---

Added on April 27, 2009, 5:55 pmCan we just close this thread? Some posters are making this a venue for their nonsensical thoughts. If Pool fans think he doesn't deserve it so be it. Go make your own trophy and hand it over to who you see fit.

This post has been edited by Hevrn: Apr 27 2009, 05:55 PM

lol that was my post i think
that game he totally outclassed every chelsea midfielder...
chasing after the ball faster than any of those young mid fielders could, getting the ball through etc...
at that age, its superb...

and why doubting the award when its voted by footballers who are exprienced in the game?
if it was fan vote, it make sense...
but this? /facepalm
comeon i'm sure they are really aware that they are voting for player of the year and not lifetime...
so dun bring those lifetime/ decade talk in plz...

then let me ask u this, how do u know?
the award say player of the year...
dun tell me every1 voted giggs cause of sentiment?
i think each player vote based on different point of view and ideology thus lets nt jz say its sentiment or feeling pity...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Apr 27 2009, 06:00 PM

i hope mod can close this thread...this discussion become ridiculous with some fan that cant even accept the fact.....im off....

if you read my earlier post, in which i seriously doubt, you would see that I am all for Giggs winning something for what he has done... which is to say something more deserving than now that has the majority of ppl going " huh? why giggs?.. is he retiring?"

he deserves an award long time back for his outstanding play and resilience in the field... but unfortunately for him, he didn't win it those times when he should have.

instead, now his fellow players just short changed him and gave him an award that is irrelevant to what he has done this year and actually raised doubts for the validity of it, which cheapens the man's contribution. for a liverpool fan I would hate any of my players to have an award that i know he did not mean to get this year... i seriously thought it would have been Vidic (dun be so surprise.. I am a big fan of the Big man)

It is because I understand it was the players that voted for him that gave credence to it being a sentimental gift more than a deserving award this year for the outstanding winger he was. that is just plain sad...

and your addon quip is undeserving to even be included... be a bigger man than that.. please

---

Added on April 27, 2009, 6:03 pmtypical closing eh?

anyway peace out

This post has been edited by REDShaun: Apr 27 2009, 06:03 PM

Why so hard to understand whether it's based on sentiments or not.

Provided this award the only jigsaw missing of Giggs's collection, and throughout the outstanding career and now come close to the end, as the token of appreciation.

It's the same reaction i can foresee if Gerrard won it, Mancs fans will say why it's not Vida, Cristiano Ronaldo but not Giggs, right?

Anyway, i am making my plastic cup for my own celebration, where you can take this PFA to complete your quintuple quest.

Wow, so suddenly you're now the authority on whats nonsensical or whats not? Read up a few posts, you'll see how some ppl are instead posting bitterly instead of using their heads. In case you don't know I didn't refer that bottom line to you, unless of course you felt the sting of it. Big man, huh. Suck your statement back a bit, and come back to me on whether its you or me who needs to grow bigger cajones. (see what I did there?)

I thought I made it clear that Giggs wasn't the best player this season. Most of us agree that he was far from the best player in 08/09 (read back my earlier posts, which I doubt you did ).

congrats ryan giggs. totally deserve it. Legend.


This post has been edited by ob8: Apr 27 2009, 06:14 PM

Should be Torres or Gerrard, they played more consistent than Giggs

No offence mate. I see Liverpool fans are discussing this issue professionally. But you skystrike are being very childish. Please discuss in a proper manner.

-

This is what I think.

PFA Player of the Year. Definition = Best player in the league for the year 08/09.

Now lets see. Is Ryan Giggs the best player in the league this season? No. Face it. He is a good player but he is not the best. Vidic and Ronaldo are better than Giggs. I thought even Fletcher was a better player.

Hey, I'm not bitter than Manutd player won the gong. I thought Manutd have other better players than Ryan Giggs.

If Giggs is nominated, then explain why is Anelka not there? This PFA is based on the first half of the season no?

Chill la Hevrn, so you voted Giggs 'really' deserved it?

i lol'd at that the statements you actually made. well as expected from a Man with cajones. i may need some lessons in sucking back my statements a bit from you although I'm not really reclined that particular way (see what i did?)

anyway peace bro, and if i can say it only proves the simple fact that Giggs is undeserving for the PFA award as is.

He does deserve a lifetime achievement thingy when they actually create one for him.

For his performances this season? No. But on sentimental purposes, I can see why he got it. Theres a diff. Some ppl seem to think I'm saying he was the Jesus of the year.

and again our thanks for looking at it in a more deserving manner i guess. I would have voted Vidic period.