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 PFA Player of the Year : Ryan Giggs, Agree or disagree?

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post Apr 28 2009, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(aboogee @ Apr 28 2009, 06:15 PM)
It jus occurred to me ...

Wud Giggs have appreciated winning the award as much as United fans or the voters have?

Forget the fans back here or in the stands, forget the voters or the panel who nominated, but think abt Giggsy himself. Hes honest to earth, and he wud be the best judge of whether he deserves the award or not. He takes it home with him, and he'll look back at the year on the plaque and it'd say Players' Player 2008/09... Did I deserve this one?

I think he'd probably say hell yeah!...IF we win the title smile.gif Or else, this could just be a parting gift, so long, farewell...

That video they depicted at the awards, wasnt him in this season, it was him over his career. They even included the FA Cup goal against Arsenal. Thats more like a bye bye gesture than a season-long recognition.

Having said that, id tell you lot to stop thinking abt statistics and look at what he brought to the table, or the field, which we cant quantify. That desire and hunger is the pure reason why a team succeeds. It pushes u to the brim, and he still has that, and he influences the young ones in the side.

I look at the video of him receiving the award and I ask myself ... Did he deserve this one?

Id say Hell Yeah!

Gerrard (who i think has been phenomenal) and Lamps (Superfrank) and Vida (Terminator) ... Im sure they'd agree.. Giggsy deserved it most this season .. and theres a tonne of seasons to go on and win it in the future smile.gif
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Of course he'll feel as though he left the other nominees short changed. He was never the best player in the season so far, and has not put in enuff eye-catching moments to warrant such an award. But it was voted for by his peers, and we all understand that. Let us not forget here that he won it becoz he won the larger majority of votes. Just like how it works in American Idol or whatever reality tv that share the same voting system, sentiments will affect the result. Sure, Vidic, Gerrard, Lampard and the others who have stood out alot more than Giggsy has over the season will have a case to argue that they probably deserved it a lot more than him, thats natural. I'm sure individual honors don't matter as much to Giggs compared to team trophies. Knowing him, he'll probably trade it off for another league medal in a heartbeat.
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post Apr 28 2009, 06:39 PM

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There'd actually be a point to discuss if the thread title was "Who was the best player of the year? Ryan Giggs?" Instead, now they're questioning why he was chosen as the "Professional Footballer's Association's Player of the Year" where each pro was awarded one single vote to cast in favor of who they think deserved it. It's the PFA's choice, and if that was what they decided, so be it.
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post Apr 28 2009, 06:42 PM

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haiz...ts should have open this topic in the MU thread instead....
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post Apr 28 2009, 07:34 PM

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post Apr 28 2009, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Apr 28 2009, 06:39 PM)
There'd actually be a point to discuss if the thread title was "Who was the best player of the year? Ryan Giggs?" Instead, now they're questioning why he was chosen as the "Professional Footballer's Association's Player of the Year" where each pro was awarded one single vote to cast in favor of who they think deserved it. It's the PFA's choice, and if that was what they decided, so be it.
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TS even got it wrong in saying its the FA that gave the award...
its more to a flame inviting thread than a discussion thread....
for the title to the content, everything is wrong...
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post Apr 28 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Apr 28 2009, 06:42 PM)
haiz...ts should have open this topic in the MU thread instead....
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TS shudnt have used a provocative thread title. Even if he had opened a Discuss The PFA Nominees thread, it'll end up a MU bashing session.

Infact, i realise any neutral based topic turns out to be an ABU thread. Its always abt United vs The Rest Of The World kinda thing ... this forum doesnt seem to go beyond that.

The reason this thread is still open is because the exchanges hasnt reached to a boiling temperature, and at least the ABU squad seems to acknowledge that Ryan, if not the performer of the season, is a fantastic professional on and off the field.
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turns out Ryan hasn't been sent off b4 in an united shirt....since 1991?! WOW!! amazing record....very gentleman player hehe i must say
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QUOTE(aboogee @ Apr 28 2009, 10:42 PM)
TS shudnt have used a provocative thread title. Even if he had opened a Discuss The PFA Nominees thread, it'll end up a MU bashing session.
To be honest, I don't think it's as bad as you say it is. I mean most posters have tried to articulate their opinions.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Apr 27 2009, 02:41 PM)
My question is simple. Does Ryan Giggs deserve this award?

For me, he do not deserve this award. He did not start enough games even to win this award. Look, I'm not bitter that a Manutd player won this award. I really think Vidic or Van der Sar should won it instead. Just had this feeling that the FA gave this award to Giggs because this is somehow his last season to perform in the top flight. Maybe the gave him on sentimental purpose seeing that he had been in the Premier League forever but had never win this award.
Correct me if I'm wrong. The six nominated players are Ferdinand, Van der Sar, Ronaldo, Vidic, Giggs and Gerrard.
For me, PFA should go to Vidic.
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QUOTE(blueice_gen @ Apr 29 2009, 04:46 PM)
it seem that you are bitter  hmm.gif
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Why do you say that? Do you have an opinion on the matter? Please feel free to share.
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post Apr 29 2009, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 29 2009, 05:03 PM)
Why do you say that? Do you have an opinion on the matter? Please feel free to share.
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Duke! dont see ya posting much these days matey. Been lookin at the Pool thread for ure latest on anything smile.gif

dont bother abt the guy man ... i think its a silly comment to make, and its counterproductive.

On your thoughts that it isnt so bad around here, i dont know. Theres more dissing and fanboyism in the forum these days than there is an intellectual conversation... jus my POV. It however doesnt discourage me from posting me thoughts, neither did i mean to endorse the notion of everyone being part of the ABU squad ...

But it wont help trying to milk comments from the likes of blueice ...


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QUOTE(aboogee @ Apr 29 2009, 05:06 PM)
Duke! dont see ya posting much these days matey. Been lookin at the Pool thread for ure latest on anything smile.gif

dont bother abt the guy man ... i think its a silly comment to make, and its counterproductive.

On your thoughts that it isnt so bad around here, i dont know. Theres more dissing and fanboyism in the forum these days than there is an intellectual conversation... jus my POV. It however doesnt discourage me from posting me thoughts, neither did i mean to endorse the notion of everyone being part of the ABU squad ...

But it wont help trying to milk comments from the likes of blueice ...
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Been really busy with work. Don't get much access when I travel and like you said, there's seldom any juicy topics to sink our teeth into. It's pretty much the same thing, different day. When there are interesting topics, more often than not, there isn't enough interest which is disappointing. I'm here most of the time actually, it's just there isn't much to talk about.

All I'm doing is trying to encourage conversation smile.gif
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Y gigs?????? rclxub.gif
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his contribution without a shadow of a doubt he deserves an award.

But if it was this season's performer it's gotta be somebody else. He IMO got the wrong award, they should have some "Lifetime award" and yes Giggsy deserbes it
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post May 3 2009, 08:19 AM

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All you doubters should really look back at Giggs' performance yesterday against Boro. Not just the goal which was superb on its own, but the way he own the midfield, providing exquisite passes after passes. FYI, he's been playing like that the whole season, so it's not surprise why his colleagues voted for him.
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post May 3 2009, 11:56 AM

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Why Giggs Shd Win It?
Giggs Is Real Champions.... 10 EPL Medals, 4 FA Cup, This Yr Will Be His 11th Title, History In-Making...
Giggs Has Never Been Sent Off B4, 802 Matches, Still Counting On...
Giggs Played 800th Games This Year, I Doubt Anyone Can Break This Record...
Giggs Scored Every Season Since His Debut in Top Flight...
Giggs Played His New Midfield Role Perfectly...
Giggs Always Involved In Big Game... It's Common with 12 Starts As ManUtd Hv Too Many Midfielders
Giggs Won Da World Club Championship, Which Non Of Da Big4 In EPL Did It Before...
Giggs Wins Da Highest No. Of Votes Amongst His Peers In EPL. That Means Other Club Players Voted For Him, Top Flight Professionists Know Better Than Us...
Giggs Is Da Skipper Of Da Club And Formerly Wales Captain...

If Not Giggs, It Shd Be Vidic, But Then 2 Red Cards Made Him Losts da Title. Again I Feel Best Player MUST Win either EPL, FA or CL To Justify His Excellence. i Feel That Best Player Hv To Come From ManUtd This Season Because...
- World Club Champs
- League Cup Champs
- EPL Is Very Likely
- CL Is Possible Too
- 14 Record-Breaking Clean Sheets, Lost Count Of Da Total tongue.gif
- ManUtd Hv Never Lost A Game In Euro Since SemiFinal To AcMilan In 2007
- Record Breaking Home Wins In CL, Beating Juventus Record
- Chelsea And Liverpool Are Lacked Of Consistensy This Season
- On Top Of That, No Team hv Ever Won Unique 5 Trophies In A Season, They're Still In Contention.

What Say You?

For Me, Gerald Is Perfect Midfielder, Would Love Him To Succeed PaulScholes. However, He Is Not Going2 Win Any Title This Year. Giggs Would Be Fitting For Title~


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QUOTE(limshenghong @ May 3 2009, 11:56 AM)
- On Top Of That, No Team hv Ever Able Win Unique 5 Trophies In A Season, They're Still In Contention.
are u sure? doh.gif whats with the FA cup lose..

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QUOTE(blackmarket @ May 3 2009, 12:40 PM)
are u sure?  doh.gif whats with the FA cup lose..
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post May 4 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(thatsound @ May 1 2009, 07:56 PM)
his contribution without a shadow of a doubt he deserves an award.

But if it was this season's performer it's gotta be somebody else. He IMO got the wrong award, they should have some "Lifetime award" and yes Giggsy deserbes it
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the point is he never win this award before, so FA give to him ...
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QUOTE(Ken @ May 4 2009, 02:11 PM)
the point is he never win this award before, so FA give to him ...
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Huh! I Thought Its The Players Who Voted For Him,Give Him A Break He Is Old Already,If Players Voted For Him There Is A Reason?With His Achievement He Deserve It.

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