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 Apr 27 2009, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Apr 27 2009, 01:14 AM) that y amd cheaper lol. i dun mind a AMD lappy actually, but their Turion x2 really cmi compared to C2D... haiz...so every1 sell ur intel. buy amd. juz dun sell ur lappy la.  |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:15 AM) haha, guess the director of AMD has already see through the future i ve to say it was indeed a smart move...many ppl were against the idea back then, cuz AMD was already in debt before they acquire ATi... now everything is working right... if only AMD can make their CPU better... less delays at the very least... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:16 AM) haha. nice quote from chinese idioms, true..i don't think intel will last long, just like microsoft, they will come to an end one day, just soon or later dun think so..soon Inel will be the only electronic company with it's own fab... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:19 AM) that's the prob told by my lecturer. he say there is not 100% certain choice yet...so he say have to depend on our luck also, hopefully by the time i finish my master 5 years from now, the economy cycle will turn to the top again Memory makers have been making losses for the past 18 quarters... long before the current credit crunch sets in...not to scare u... but yeah, that's reality |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Apr 27 2009, 01:21 AM) but years later even amd is cheap its still more powerfull than intel. oh, u mean Athlon64??? yeah, that was a nice game from AMD...astria izzit correct? before the dual core generation. but think another way, without Athlon64, we might not ve Core 2, and at such prices... and that prompted AMD to make Phenom and perfect it to Phenom II... so yeah, competition is good... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:26 AM
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for AMD's cse it's sort of viscious cycle...
CPU not appealing, less demand less demand, lower price to stimulate it lower prices = less profit less profit = less money for R&D less R&D = not so good CPU so yeah.. till now they still having quite a lot of debt... hopefully once The Foundry is setup, things will get better for them... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:28 AM
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actually, if Intel really want to kill AMD, it's very easy...
they juz need to tear the contract that authorizes AMD to make x86 CPU... but of course, they "can't" do that becuz of all the anti-monopoly laws... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:28 AM) haha, this will depends on how the company manage their capital di, for AMD, it's mainly becuz of the K10 CPU (aka Phenom I)delayed again and again... by the time it hit market, C2D was already everywhere... Added on April 27, 2009, 1:31 am QUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 27 2009, 01:29 AM) At least AMD lose less amount compare to the last quarter, hope they can turn profit this year. Then Intel will start waking up. Intel is not slow la...the upcoming Lynnfield is pretty promising... especially the Turbo Boost technique, can oc quite a lot leh... This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:31 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:31 AM) hmmm, nvm, they still have chance to come out with some brilliant idea they will need to bank on Phenom II... at least it can attract overclckers... the new Phenom II x4 955BE reportedly can hit 7GHz on liquid nitrogen...Added on April 27, 2009, 1:34 am QUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 27 2009, 01:32 AM) They cannot tear that agreement, since the current x64 is from AMD own creation, Intel will lose all the 64bit processor, AMD cannot make any x86 base processor. The processor market will collapse. Therefore, definitely the government will come in and stop such dispute. i think more like catastrophic...considering all desktops and laptops are using x86 CPU... This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:34 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 27 2009, 01:35 AM) Overclocker is a small market, but their platform provide upgrade path for current AM2+ user is a plus. Not like Intel tick-tock model, you have to change everything. well, that's AMD's traditional market actually...Athlon XP, Athlon64, all were good oc-ers... Phenom I was disappointing... but main problem is, seldom we see AMD in OEM machines... Added on April 27, 2009, 1:37 amdamn, we hit 400... This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:37 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:37 AM) i think acer has quite a lot Intel did very well in marketing...somtimes i say i use AMD at home, some of my friends say, "ee... lousy la AMD..." then i smoked their Pentium D, Core 2 Duo in benchmark...  Added on April 27, 2009, 1:40 am QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:39 AM) wat? astria just 13 post away? i... am... coming...This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:40 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:41 AM) still this computer world is influence too much by gamers, computer seems to be just for gaming stuffs, 64-bit games r still too little ok, i'll TRY not to post so many... XDAdded on April 27, 2009, 1:41 am pls...astria..at least let me lead for 1 day....ok? lol |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Apr 27 2009, 01:42 AM) agreed to many gamers is the market. haha. not really...so the faster the proc the more gamers there. Core i7 is fast... but it's not games friendly... Added on April 27, 2009, 1:44 am QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:43 AM) ok, good night, i go watch anime first. tomorrow have to wake up early for german test then u still dun wan to sleep ah...?This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:44 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Apr 27 2009, 01:44 AM) but GTA4 frenly since it need more core hehe. GTA4 i exception i think...but Core i7's HT makes games perform worst... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 27 2009, 01:45 AM) Walau, spammer also got agreement one. those are popular LAN games la.. Gamers is not that big nia, casual gamer is more, from what I notice around my uni friends, a lot of them just play Dota or L4D. think L4D is replacing CS in many LAN shops... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:46 AM) HT..just like wat we have in P4? hmm...i thought Ht on p4 was a terrible thing.. actually it's different thing, Intel used to call it SMP...they can achieve the same thing, but works differently, SMP iirc is much more efficient than HT... Intel juz call SMP Hyper Threading for marketing sake... dun want to confuse ppl... This post has been edited by astria: Apr 27 2009, 01:48 AM |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:48 AM) saw ppl play L4D b4, for me, it makes me dizzzy....wonder why...racing game is ok for me, no matter how much motion blur or eyecandy.. L4D a bit like stress reliever to me... lolwhen u play as zombie, can feel shiok abt it... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:49 AM) i see. HT gives me bad impression...bad branding from intel yup, the old HT requires optimization from the software, else it's as good as nothing...the new one i am not sure, but for games, it's not helping at all... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(HL Milk @ Apr 27 2009, 01:49 AM) Oic, another good lesson from guru astria. Then what is SMP stands for? Simultaneous Multi *sth*... can't remember already... |
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Apr 27 2009, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(weiyap_tan @ Apr 27 2009, 01:51 AM) we r too strong tonight...too bad, laer sure scare other thread...lol for the games part rit, from wat i read, is that games dun require so many threads to run, and not all are optimized for multi thread as well, and HT juz screws it up...Added on April 27, 2009, 1:51 am sh&t the h*ll from intel...is it like cheating consumers? huhuhuhuh  classic example is L4D... before they patch it, need to specifically run it on 1 core to let it run stable... |
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