fuhh.... sini macam semua orang benci diamond
Serious Diamonds are forever, The most romantic stones
Serious Diamonds are forever, The most romantic stones
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Apr 28 2009, 10:18 AM
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fuhh.... sini macam semua orang benci diamond
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Apr 28 2009, 11:18 AM
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Another favorite
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Apr 28 2009, 11:25 AM
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aiyo i really loooovvvee their celebrations rings... those you can mix and match and wears together
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Apr 28 2009, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 09:13 AM) Someone else brought this up...not me. O rly? See below for proof » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I know she has ignored me, but I would like to let others see for themselves what she's been saying. QUOTE To say diamond is an over price thing is true and false, sometimes the price is high when the market pushes it up, sometimes when demand is slow the prices goes down. The market doesn't push it up, because as much as diamonds are in demand, the supply far outnumbers the demand. In normal economics, this would have driven prices down. However, since the supply is tightly controlled, the illusion of scarcity is there, hence the ability to demand higher prices. When demand is low, prices are dropped to increase demand. They can afford this, because their goods are priced arbitrarily. QUOTE You need a huge investment to set up a diamond mine, among all the gemstone mined, diamond has the most sophisticated proper setup. And another factor, a lot of diamond mine are found in hostile places so accessing them is not easy. The ROI on a diamond mine is high, especially when you "pay" for slave labour QUOTE If anyone think Debeer is good, it is not that way, Debeer is far sighted and saw that diamond will be widely accepted because it can be cut and polish to such a beautiful stone with nothing else comparable, it is infact a very unique gemstone, what else can you replace diamond with? sapphire? emerald? Ruby? those are difficult to standardize. Diamond is pure and colorless so it made sense to promote them as proposal ring, I'm not even sure if debeer is the one who started this. You're looking at things backwards. Back then, diamonds were doing HORRIBLY. The annual sales of diamonds was a mere $100,000. The stone used to be rare, but when huge deposits were found in places like Africa, they started to get scared that the market will be flooded and diamonds would become a semi-precious stone. You should know that perception of value is everything. That is why the diamond companies joined together to monopolise the market. They also realised that they had to create a perception of high value and turn the stone into a tradition that will always be used so that the demand will always be high. They did this by the "diamonds are forever" campaign, which tied diamonds to the concept of love. They also gave celebrities diamonds to show off and made everyone want one. It is incredible marketing, but talking about it objectively, you can see why diamonds aren't really worth that much. QUOTE If Debeer is that good as some of you claim why didnt they even consider monopolizing other colored stones? If you think Debeer inflate diamond prices then why are other uncontrolled gemstones prices still beyond most of our reaches? Look at sapphire and ruby, it is like buying lottery to the novice, its is all out market with no control. And the prices of these stones are climbing steeply this pass 40 years. To monopolise other stones, they need to conquer those markets and create the same marketing campaign they did with diamonds. Considering that they're already making so much money with diamonds, WHY BOTHER? QUOTE And yes they're easily mine with extremely low tech, if you go Thailand, cambodia, vietnam these stones are selling like pasar malam. How do you think people mined for diamonds in India and Africa last time? With high tech machines? Also, you're contradicting yourself. You just say here its cheap and selling like pasar malam, but just a few sentences ago, you said these gemstones are out of reach for people? what? I know you're ignoring me, but people should know these things. As someone who is supposed to educate people, your bias and hypocrisy tarnishes your credibility. QUOTE(Bishop @ Apr 28 2009, 09:50 AM) Well my "buddy", you obviously have not made your significant one happy before... Well, perhaps the girls he chooses are not so superficial? This post has been edited by silverhawk: Apr 28 2009, 11:34 AM |
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Apr 28 2009, 11:41 AM
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And this is my all time favorite
FYI, the sapphire you see is Kashmir Blue, very expensive and this is the ultimate color for sapphires, recently more and more tanzanite is flooding the market with very similar hue, not sure if its enhance in anyway. Added on April 28, 2009, 11:55 am QUOTE(Jaroque @ Apr 28 2009, 10:18 AM) I think only 2 people benci diamond la (period), but this is good also, after reading all his excuses this makes me cherish my husband so much, instead of complaining he buys me diamond and surprises me, thank God I didnt get a husband when I say I love diamond and he'll come out with statistic and chart and start convincing me diamond is no good la, over price la...what a turn off it would be.This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 28 2009, 11:55 AM |
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Apr 28 2009, 01:00 PM
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Apr 28 2009, 01:57 PM
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Apr 28 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Apr 28 2009, 09:50 AM) The recent Iraq war was oil motivated. or do you believe the bullshit about freedom and human rights? Yes, the Iraq war was motivated by oil and several other unsaid agendas. Yes, America spat forth a torrent of bullshit about "preserving freedom" and "human rights" (but shut up about the latter when we found out they were committing torture, massacre and punitive rape on men and women)."Anything of financial value is being played by someone in power- think crude oil, gold, stock markets, etc.", that makes it okay. Note I didnt say it was ok, I just made a neutral statement that is all. That is the way our world works. You can accept it or deny it. As you can see the ugly reality does not match the fabricated lie. Diamonds would be a analogy for this also. It's fabricated lies of being worth the money you pay for it for sentimental reasons of "romance" and "special" finances the cutting off of breasts in Africa YES, the CUTTING OFF OF BREASTS IN AFRICA, the very same thing that you girls watch on Oprah and then CRY about and the conscription of entire villages to work as slaves in diamond mines in Myanmar. QUOTE Been there done that, it was a priceless experience, although i wouldnt repeat it again anytime soon... You've been sodomised with a spiked strap-on too, for real? Well my "buddy", you obviously have not made your significant one happy before... I was just being sarcastic when I feted wlcling. I think that some experiences are not worth the price. QUOTE I think only 2 people benci diamond la (period), I don't hate diamonds. I hate dirty lies. QUOTE but this is good also, after reading all his excuses this makes me cherish my husband so much, instead of complaining he buys me diamond and surprises me, thank God I didnt get a husband when I say I love diamond and he'll come out with statistic and chart and start convincing me diamond is no good la, over price la...what a turn off it would be. LOL!!! Your husband really loves you. You should be loyal to him. A man who does not love or appreciate you that much might ask you to grow up or worse, grow a brain, and that would be horrible. This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 28 2009, 02:37 PM |
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Apr 28 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 28 2009, 02:26 PM) Yes, the Iraq war was motivated by oil and several other unsaid agendas. Yes, America spat forth a torrent of bullshit about "preserving freedom" and "human rights" (but shut up about the latter when we found out they were committing torture, massacre and punitive rape on men and women). yea yea...whine all you want As you can see the ugly reality does not match the fabricated lie. Diamonds would be a analogy for this also. It's fabricated lies of being worth the money you pay for it for sentimental reasons of "romance" and "special" finances the cutting off of breasts in Africa YES, the CUTTING OFF OF BREASTS IN AFRICA, the very same thing that you girls watch on Oprah and then CRY about and the conscription of entire villages to work as slaves in diamond mines in Myanmar. You've been sodomised with a spiked strap-on too, for real? I was just being sarcastic when I feted wlcling. I think that some experiences are not worth the price. I don't hate diamonds. I hate dirty lies. LOL!!! Your husband really loves you. You should be loyal to him. A man who does not love or appreciate you that much might ask you to grow up or worse, grow a brain, and that would be horrible. Pity your wife tho This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 28 2009, 03:11 PM |
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Apr 28 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 03:06 PM) yea yea...whine all you want Lalala syndrome, anyone? QUOTE My wife doesn't need diamonds to look pretty and feel loved.You also have no idea how much walking I do. |
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Apr 28 2009, 03:42 PM
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Apr 28 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 03:42 PM) Saved for posterity. This comeback of yours is priceless.You really don't know what's going on, do you? You must have had some real trouble following the debate and dealing with all the issues, points and nuances raised. I almost pity you. Except that BREASTS WERE SLICED OFF IN AFRICA must... calm down... before....!!! SMASH TABLE IN TWO!!!!!! This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 28 2009, 03:47 PM |
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Apr 28 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 28 2009, 03:45 PM) Saved for posterity. This comeback of yours is priceless. Whats next? The palestine and afghans? You really don't know what's going on, do you? You must have had some real trouble following the debate and dealing with all the issues, points and nuances raised. I almost pity you. Except that BREASTS WERE SLICED OFF IN AFRICA must... calm down... before....!!! SMASH TABLE IN TWO!!!!!! |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 03:55 PM) Ok ok, no need to force the point. You and Bishop do not care.See, that's very easy to say isn't it? Just say that you do not care that breasts were cut off in Africa. You just want to preserve your feelings of "pretty", "special" and "romance". No need to go the round about way and bring up oil, Iraq or Palestine. Come on. Just say it, the both of you. Trust me, it's liberating. |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 28 2009, 04:00 PM) Ok ok, no need to force the point. You and Bishop do not care. as mention earlier...See, that's very easy to say isn't it? Just say that you do not care that breasts were cut off in Africa. You just want to preserve your feelings of "pretty", "special" and "romance". No need to go the round about way and bring up oil, Iraq or Palestine. Come on. Just say it, the both of you. Trust me, it's liberating. do you pump petrol? do you use anything made from petrol chemical? |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 04:02 PM) So, you are saying that I am hypocrite because I use petrol?That's what you and Bishop are trying to say, aren't you? You're both truly geniuses. Added on April 28, 2009, 4:10 pm^ I'm waiting to see how Moorish and Bishop answers this. Go ahead, guys. Dig a deeper hole for yourselves. This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 28 2009, 04:10 PM |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 28 2009, 04:05 PM) So, you are saying that I am hypocrite because I use petrol? I dun need to answer anything as I'm not trying to convince you...I think it is you whining in here and hoping to convince us.That's what you and Bishop are trying to say, aren't you? You're both truly geniuses. Added on April 28, 2009, 4:10 pm^ I'm waiting to see how Moorish and Bishop answers this. Go ahead, guys. Dig a deeper hole for yourselves. We come from 2 different world, if you dun like diamond then GTFO from here. To me diamond is god sent To you diamond is a sin... Go create your own thread and preach there instead of making trouble in here, this is about helping people to choose diamond. This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 28 2009, 04:24 PM |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 28 2009, 04:20 PM) I dun need to answer anything as I'm not trying to convince you...I think it is you whining in here and hoping to convince us. Oh but I thought this thread was to EDUCATE people about diamonds.We come from 2 different world, if you dun like diamond then GTFO from here. I didn't know that this thread was only for people who like diamonds. You see? This is the root of all our misunderstanding here. |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:31 PM
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sad to say, this topic is no longer Cupid corner material. Sorry that some people deviate from that.
Moorish, its a losing war. This thread surely wasn't created to delve into diamonds as an investment yah? Let's concentrate on helping the lost souls find their perfect stone for whatever reason they choose to. Peace out everyone! |
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Apr 28 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 28 2009, 04:31 PM) sad to say, this topic is no longer Cupid corner material. Sorry that some people deviate from that. You sure about that? Isn't that what Moorish said? That diamonds are a good investment?Moorish, its a losing war. This thread surely wasn't created to delve into diamonds as an investment yah? Let's concentrate on helping the lost souls find their perfect stone for whatever reason they choose to. Peace out everyone! Want me to find the post where she said that? |
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