can or not?
i also eager to know.

of coz can, but your car ride height will look weird.

is it so obvious?

while the car is moving it wont be so obvious from the outside, but when you parked your car, you will notice it.

hmmm..i see...thanks..but michelin primacy heard is comfort tires and when do fast cornering tend to flex alot??? .....my stock conti cc1 use around 50% and now when 100-130km steering vibrates d....ish....and its due to uneven rotation "jumping"....so planning to change front tires..la...and i travel highway most of the time,and the vibration really disturbing...

I got a set of Toyo Proxes R1R's...195/50/15 at RM300 a piece

great tires.. stick on the ground when its warm up

high profile tires sure will have a lot of flex when cornering

if you got steering vibrate from 100-130km/h, maybe is your balancing got problem already, last time i go 130km/h got steering vibrate, after doing the alignment balancing + rotation no more vibrate even i whack to 150km/h

semi-slick tires

Yes. am using the same profile, albeit, C.drive at the front and S.drive at the rear without any problem.
look like am gonna swap the S.drive to the front cuz' my 'fei poh auntie wanna take a ride back to kampar
soon......jk

No problem. my neighbour is using profile 55 front and profile 60 rear. no obvious different.
for average driving, i suggest you stay with profile 60, which is more comfortable.
profile 55 will give you a slightly bumpy ride(depending on suspension set up).
yokohama A.drive is fine for average driving. C.drive and S.drive has a harder sidewall, thus good for taking fast corner.

This post has been edited by yngwie: Aug 1 2009, 02:41 PM

Treadwear 140 wei...damn sticky I bought em a few weeks ago for the MME practice session trackday. Gave me confidence to whack corners at full throttle Eh, it's not semi slick lah...ALMOST semi slick coz Toyo labelled it as a high performance road going tyres. Weird rite?

hmmm...i see...so how much is C.drive for 195/60/r15???...sorry 4 asking since no price list right??.....so C.drive is better than conti cc1???(wana know)..haha.....pricing between rm180-230++......good for cornering, not noisy.......if compare michelin xm1 and C.drive which is better ah???....my driving style is average..sometimes gila gila... i just planning to change front tires 1st...as the steering vibrates 100km-140km...arghh...done alot balancing d...so decided to change tires.....

well Yoho C Drive is in Luxury Catergories like Mich Primacy LC...
Mich XM1 is similar with Yoko A Drive...

I had not tired C Drive and Primacy LC b4, hance i could not comment much...
I had used A Drive and XM1 b4... XM1 is softer compare to A drive...
they have good amount of comfort and cornering... of course not very aggresive ones..
Primacy LC is a new tire from Mich where it target Luxury saloon... it is towards comfort and quiet... hehe....
C Drive ok kua... but for your size of 60 series you only can choose these tires...

while Yoko S drive with Mich PP2 which in the UHP categories... both available at 55 series and below...
PP2 is slightly better in overall... it is one of the best Aquaplaning UHP tires around...
and it's side wall is slightly just just slightly softer than S Drive...
S Drive is quite noisy although it is new.. but PP2's hummings will become obvious after 50%...
Handling on both should be on par...


If you feel vibrating on the tires pls do rotation... and balancing...
if that wil not solve your problem... you better have a last try of the On Wheel Balancing...
if that did not solve the problem... make sure your ball joint and lower arm bushing is still ok...
if those things is a bit loosen it will give you that vibrating effect also...

refer to the price list S drive and PP2 is definitely out for you....
Klang shops selling PP2 at 195/55 R15 around RM230~240... where S Drive a bit more...
Primacy LC will cost around your max budget at 195/60 R15... i'm not sure about C Drive...
XM1 on tat size is only at RM200 coz i changed on my papa avanza jus on march... where i compare Primacy LC and XM1 prices...

if you really wan to convert to 195/55 R15 you can try out Hankook V12... where i'm also trying now...
it is my 1st set of Tires outside of Michelin brand...
it give you good amount of gripping in dry and wet after 3 months usage or around 7k~8k km's...
but it is slightly noisy coz it is directional tires... but it only cost about RM180/pc, i change at Klang...

think about it.... Comfort, Noise, Handling...

Mich XM1 & Yoko A Drive will give you comfort... but you can feel quite obvious body roll when you corners...
Mich Primacy LC & Yoko C Drive aimed at Luxury cars where it has harder side wall to minimized body roll...
u know lo... Luxury cars very heavy if side wall too soft it will be like swaving around the corner...
these 4 tires will not give you a very good responce on handling but you will get comfort and quietness in return...
Where as Mich PP2 and Yoko S Drive will give you good handling...
but you will have to use to the noise and ride quality will not be good in bumpy roads...
you can feel even small humps on the uneven patches of roads...
but in the UHP categories Hankook is quite good on this...
it give you slight comfort with slightly slower feedback or responce on the handling...
about 0.5 secs slower or lesser... i tried lil swaving on left and right my Vios while i'm driving about 110km/h...
but in terms of gripping b4 50% thread usage it is comparable with S Drive and PP2...
tis tire is still new hence no ppl manage to rub more than 70% yet...
Please refer to Autoworld Forum for more review on V12
cheers..

This post has been edited by michael9413: Aug 2 2009, 08:48 AM

hmmm...thanks.....oh yea..the vibration just occur 100km-140km...but on certain roads, the vibration not so obvious...depend on the road.......done 3-5 balancing d..same...but gatal also..la..wana change tire... ...i think most probably will get c-drive 195/55/r15...or change front tire 1st....or if budget permits, just get the michelin pp2...sacrifice ride comfort a abit.... .....right now on conti cc1 stock....so i guess c-drive is much much better right??? since i see both price around the same

@loong2020@
most of the shop i went to selling the C.drive 195/60/r15 under 195 bucks. i get my 2pcs of 195/55/r15 around 380 somewhere in march at 380 bucks including computerized wheel balancing and rim repair
at the price, i really get the bang for bucks!
good for cornering, no aqua planning, good grip in wet / dry and no steering vibration(check your joints/ lower arm bush) at 198km/h...
the only complaint; noisier on uneven surface and ride is a little firmer(am on the last profile 55, i think this profile is no longer available on C.drive ).
i tried conti cct1 before, softer ride. not as noisy as the C.drive but offer less fun. karak highway definitely need a tyre with harder sidewall

Micheal9413 was right, XM1 is on par with A.drive. thread wise, A.drive last longer.

hehehe....thanks bro...cause my conti cc1...rotating "jumping" not smooth...so i think its the cause of making vibration but 140km onwards not reli vibrate...oredi done super damn alot balancing still same..........so which outlet can i get resonable price???..... ....can intro any yokohama aoutlet?? or the place u change ur tire?...thinking of xm1, but since its more to comfort..and i sometimes do corner like mad fella....like going genting or sudd syoik...so prefer a better good sidewall....

and also...why when its rainy days or the road is wet, i brake ,the tires will lock....but when the tire is new no such thing...hmmm is it means it time to change?? ....hope can change before i going PD with my friends and the tire got cuts and small cracks... ...

This post has been edited by loong2020: Aug 2 2009, 12:39 PM

which area are you in? there is one yokohama outlet in pandan indah in front of mid point shopping centre.
else, try the one behind jusco maluri. both in KL.
last time i am using a new dunlop d01, it takes longer to stop in the rain but the distance is almost a
half shorter with c.drive.
how long you'd been using it? if it's already wear out, you should change it as soon as possible!
btw, PD road is damn fun, especially at night!

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This post has been edited by loong2020: Aug 3 2009, 03:52 PM

fren Klang have the cheapest tire la...

next time better rotate every 10k... and make sure you have goo pressure and do not burn ur tire always...
yeah emergency brake too offen also will cause that too...

have you try on the wheel balancing??? that is more accurate if your tire still vibrating after the normal balancing...

have you made up ur mind on which size are you getting???
195/55 R15 or 195/60 R 15
handling or comfort... hehe.... noise or comfort...
which??? comfort is the 1st priority or last one....
always ppl will arrange the priority base on... Comfort or Noise or Handling...
Mine... Handling... Comfort... Noise... of course the gripping is 1st 1st one...

since you choose 195/55 R15... then what is the priority???? Comfort??? Handling???
if budget is ok with RM230 or RM240... then get PP2.... S Drive is too noisy for a new tire...
if you wan budget and not bother by the directional noise... then get Hankook V12..

This post has been edited by michael9413: Aug 2 2009, 08:03 PM

dudes~
tis is tire's pricelist n not a discussion thread~
pls come here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1059355 2 discuss anything about tires n not here in in pricelist~

cheeann..

235/70/r15 (or 235/75/r15) pricing pls. michelin/GY/BFG