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saratoga
post Apr 16 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 16 2009, 09:55 AM)
480p is goona look crap on a 1080p panel
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dun think crap when at distance of > 8 feets.
at > 12 feets, one is find hard to tell much difference between 480 or 720p.
> 15 feets, 480 and 1080 p is not much difference.

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post Apr 16 2009, 11:07 AM

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then u might as well buy a smaller LCD, at distance of 8 feet, everything is gonna look nice?

btwn SD n HD, be it 720 or 1080, it can still see the difference, of cos you dun tell me to stand a block away and tell the difference


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post Apr 16 2009, 11:51 AM

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the topic is when feeding same source video(480p as example), certain model LCD(42" here) cannot give satisfied results as compare to others, just this simple, no hidden agenda.
I believe seldom anybody is going to sit/stand by distance < 5 feets for watching 42" lcd ...
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post Apr 16 2009, 01:58 PM

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not saying u have any hidden agenda, im just answering based on my experience

anyway, i used to watch my 42 plasma, for abt 5-6 feet distance
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post Apr 16 2009, 02:26 PM

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actually to me at distance 8 feets when watching dvd, when playing 720p or 480p, if i didn't notice very hard, then they looks not far in PQ.
For 8tv, if distance > 13 feets, then i consider very good already the PQ.

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post Apr 16 2009, 02:30 PM

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im sorry, but wat 720p are u watching? upscales DVD?
saratoga
post Apr 16 2009, 04:49 PM

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720p .mkv playback thru laptop connected to tv.

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post Apr 16 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(saratoga @ Apr 16 2009, 09:10 AM)
yes, 10 bit, but dun betray your eyes.... you cannot tell anything when playing astro, dvd, tv, HD signal... maybe FHD 1080p with best quality only show the minor tad difference. Only toshiba support PIP which is none for panny.


Added on April 16, 2009, 9:11 amone more thing, the panny LZ800/LX800 series with also 8 bits will BEAT the toshiba anytime, cause they are sooo much better the PQ.
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8 bit vs 10 bit panel...no difference! Maybe you have poor eyes. The difference will be obvious when viewing blue sky or a big area with same color like blue ocean. 10 bit have more shades of color therefore appear smoother.

Also, base on what did you say pany's picture quality is so much better than the toshiba? The last i check on cnet asia reviews, Toshiba got 1 in the top 5 full HD LCD, and sharp got 1 LCD in top 5 ...but i see non of Panasonic!!!
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post Apr 16 2009, 11:17 PM

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I have to trust my eyes... compare them side by side you will know. I was twice noticed the softness or poor-to-normal PQ displayed by 42rv500, when comparing side by side of all of the brands one can tell. However, I saw when playing 1080i/p signal to toshiba, it performs good for the money. One thing I should say: 42rv500 not really good in handling dvd/tv/astro signals, but sad that these are the moment most people enjoy most for now! The panny LZ800 series really outshine toshiba hands down by big gap. LZ80 is good for the money, which is ~ rm300 - 400 less. For sharp, they are too expensive, though is good.
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post Apr 18 2009, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(saratoga @ Apr 16 2009, 11:17 PM)
I have to trust my eyes... compare them side by side you will know. I was twice noticed the softness or poor-to-normal PQ displayed by 42rv500, when comparing side by side of all of the brands one can tell. However, I saw when playing 1080i/p signal to toshiba, it performs good for the money. One thing I should say: 42rv500 not really good in handling dvd/tv/astro signals, but sad that these are the moment most people enjoy most for now! The panny LZ800 series really outshine toshiba hands down by big gap. LZ80 is good for the money, which is ~ rm300 - 400 less. For sharp, they are too expensive, though is good.
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both tv set to default when you compared?
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post Apr 18 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(saratoga @ Apr 16 2009, 11:17 PM)
I have to trust my eyes... compare them side by side you will know. I was twice noticed the softness or poor-to-normal PQ displayed by 42rv500, when comparing side by side of all of the brands one can tell. However, I saw when playing 1080i/p signal to toshiba, it performs good for the money. One thing I should say: 42rv500 not really good in handling dvd/tv/astro signals, but sad that these are the moment most people enjoy most for now! The panny LZ800 series really outshine toshiba hands down by big gap. LZ80 is good for the money, which is ~ rm300 - 400 less. For sharp, they are too expensive, though is good.
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Showroom comparison is never accurate as the LCDs have different settings. Its only fair to pass judgement when comparing 2 LCD that is properly calibrated.
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post Apr 18 2009, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:34 PM)
Showroom comparison is never accurate as the LCDs have different settings.  Its only fair to pass judgement when comparing 2 LCD that is properly calibrated.
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YES I agreed! Audition at shop even side-by-side will not yield the accurate result. Most ppl tend to carry away by the better calibrated tv. For best, you have to set both sets to default, meaning 0 settings for all the picture settings. Feeding both with same source using the same type of cable, ie both hdmi cables with near similar length. nod.gif


In fact, IMHO, it is not that easy and straight away you give star rating over another one in just short time of comparison. Even those pros from establish audio/visual magazine take hours to come out with overall result. 1 unit may looks vibrant in colours until you forget to tell its counterpart has better black levels or contrast. Maybe the vibrant colors are overkill or not natural, picture motion etc.....breaking into few section to compare & come out with overall ratings!










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post Apr 18 2009, 10:02 PM

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recommended get panasonic full hd since the price drop quite alot..rm4299 i guess
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post Apr 20 2009, 03:54 PM

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If you don't mind the shinning reflex screen, Samsung series 6 not bad lah....
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post Apr 21 2009, 11:58 PM

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u can get a relatively cheaper 42" LCD for the older models, if u don't mind the lower contrast levels. but still good.
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post Apr 23 2009, 12:38 AM

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I though samsung is the best lcd for series 6 above?
why every choice panasonic, LG, sony, sharp ... but no one take samsung ah?
is it too many series and not so good quality already?


Added on April 23, 2009, 12:41 amwat u all sifu here recommand for watching astro lcd tv among 37" - 42" thanks. i personal see samsung 40" series 6, for me consider good liao, how abt others?

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post Apr 24 2009, 01:19 AM

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hi guys i need a recommendation.

plan to buy FHD LCD at 37" any idea which one is the best and worth a penny.



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post Apr 24 2009, 10:18 PM

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Sharp latest 37A66M is quite good with nice black. A bit cheaper would be Panasonic 37LZ80MK.


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post Apr 27 2009, 05:06 PM

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To TS, if u eyeing LCD TV bigger than 42', than i recommended this models Philips 47PFL7422
Its a 47' full HD
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post Apr 27 2009, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(lordvega08 @ Apr 27 2009, 05:06 PM)
To TS, if u eyeing LCD TV bigger than 42', than i recommended this models Philips 47PFL7422
Its a 47' full HD
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How much?


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