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 can u all help me?..., prob with my Q9450 =.=||

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TSkilowatt
post Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM, updated 17y ago

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hello to all overclockers biggrin.gif..

i dunno wut to say but u all can refer pica below....wut happen to my temp...

should i have to send it to RMA?...how long it takes for RMA?..

thx!...


this 1 is on OC mode

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this 1 is on normal mode...i open with 3 application to check the temp sweat.gif

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plus when i OC'ed my proc @ 3.32 & run OCCT ony for 5minutes then error come which is OCCT stop automatically noted that "Error Detect On Core #3"...

hmm...am i have a problem with my proc?...really noob OC'er here...need sifu's or any users help me cry.gif

Note : got this prob since i bought it..but i just ignored it..till today its annoying me cry.gif cry.gif

This post has been edited by kilowatt: Apr 14 2009, 06:45 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:55 PM

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not enough juice provided to support all 4 cores on load?
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post Apr 14 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Apr 13 2009, 11:55 PM)
not enough juice provided to support all 4 cores on load?
IMO
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ok but my question is...look at my 4 cores temp sweat.gif..is that normal...without OC mode the temp temp high lo =.=||
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post Apr 14 2009, 01:01 AM

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i think its normal..
we r using same processor..
if you want to compare with my result i can give the OCCT pics

edited : i think the temp for the overclocked one is normal..
but the non-oc temp is too hot than mine.. my temp less than 50

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post Apr 14 2009, 02:12 AM

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55+ idle is hot for 400FSB. What heatsink you are on anyway? Check your fans, thermal paste and cable management too.
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i think the EIST and C1E is disabled.
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post Apr 14 2009, 02:16 AM

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check your hsf bro..
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post Apr 14 2009, 03:04 AM

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aircond room or non aircond?

temp taken during hot afternoon or cool?
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post Apr 14 2009, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 14 2009, 01:01 AM)
i think its normal..
we r using same processor..
if you want to compare with my result i can give the OCCT pics

edited : i think the temp for the overclocked one is normal..
but the non-oc temp is too hot than mine.. my temp less than 50
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yaaa..thats why lo...my idle temp rclxub.gif ...dunno why...its all the time like that...


QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 14 2009, 02:12 AM)
55+ idle is hot for 400FSB. What heatsink you are on anyway? Check your fans, thermal paste and cable management too.
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Xigamtek Redscorpion bro....

u can try check my cable management here at page 79 post number 4 from top http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/767169/+1560...

btw i oredi done 2 time change the thermal paste & bought crossbow kit want to make the contact better sweat.gif

QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 14 2009, 02:14 AM)
i think the EIST and C1E is disabled.
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ahh hmm.gif ...wut is that bro...can u explain more?...

QUOTE(iwan_smtk @ Apr 14 2009, 02:16 AM)
check your hsf bro..
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=.=||...go sleep la..u answer not helping la laugh.gif...

btw thx dude...i oredi check 2 times =.=||...

QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Apr 14 2009, 03:04 AM)
aircond room or non aircond?

temp taken during hot afternoon or cool?
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non aircond + taken during night on rainy day =.=|| ( last night lo )

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post Apr 14 2009, 09:08 AM

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to add some input, your super pi 1M benchmark too slow, mind quad on 3ghz finishes at 17s while your better cpu completes at 34s, 100% slower. something's not right here.
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post Apr 14 2009, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Apr 14 2009, 09:08 AM)
to add some input, your super pi 1M benchmark too slow, mind quad on 3ghz finishes at 17s while your better cpu completes at 34s, 100% slower. something's not right here.
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yaaa correct...btw normally will go ony at 14s on 1M....but that is coz i run OCCT at same time.....dunno why....
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run occt at same time will slow down superpi since both programs will fight for processing power.

Using the same mobo (EP35-DS3) and Xeon version of the proc as well, with a weaker cooler (Hyper212), and well ventilated case (Antec 900).

The only time my proc hits >65 C is on a very hot day as comp isn't in an air conditioned room. The board also struggles to go past 410FSB for me, was benching it last night @ 425 and still occasionally hangs at odd times (pass IBT 50 times, yet hang when idle :S).

What are your voltage settings @ 3.32GHz?
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QUOTE(kilowatt @ Apr 14 2009, 12:36 AM)
ok but my question is...look at my 4 cores temp sweat.gif..is that normal...without OC mode the temp temp high lo =.=||
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u call that high? u aint seen the temps on my quaddie @ 4ghz yet

QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 14 2009, 02:12 AM)
55+ idle is hot for 400FSB. What heatsink you are on anyway? Check your fans, thermal paste and cable management too.
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i doubt that's his idle temp... difference between load and idle is less than 3c on core temp? how can 1

QUOTE(kilowatt @ Apr 14 2009, 09:13 AM)
yaaa correct...btw normally will go ony at 14s on 1M....but that is coz i run OCCT at same time.....dunno why....
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u run OCCT of cos la super pi performance drop.... both trying to take over processing power... apa la

conclusion, ur temp is pretty much normal... from the looks of the vcore, it's as predicted... regarding the error on occt, im not sure if occt sees faults on ram as an error or not biggrin.gif
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does the multiplier dropped when its idling???
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post Apr 14 2009, 03:48 PM

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He didn't turn off EIST so his multiplier will drop when idle.

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Xigamtek Redscorpion bro....

u can try check my cable management here at page 79 post number 4 from top http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/767169/+1560...

btw i oredi done 2 time change the thermal paste & bought crossbow kit want to make the contact better
There most be something wrong with your hardware then. You did a very good job on the cables. I don't know how many fans you can put into your casing but more fans will help the cooling. I can see a FM123 on the exhaust. tongue.gif

QUOTE(iBenQ @ Apr 14 2009, 12:34 PM)
i doubt that's his idle temp... difference between load and idle is less than 3c on core temp? how can 1
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His idle is 56C and load is 66C. He didn't put Realtemp on his first screenshot.

Idle without any stress at 3.2Ghz@1.25v :
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Load at 3.2Ghz@1.25v:
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load 66c on 1.232v @ 3.2ghz, with stock vcore is 1.175... 67c is pretty normal to me... from my point of view, it looks like u overestimated ur proc and heatsink, thinking that 45nm "should" be cooler and s-1283 can cool down a quad core like ice... from what i see, ur vcore, stock vcore and oc'ed clock, ur TDP should be around 120w... although Q9450 is a 45nm proc, it still has a tdp of 95W at 2.66ghz, same as Q6600 65nm, much hotter than any core2duo at its clock speed.. the only differences is the vcore it takes to reach a certain clock speed, ie Q6600 1.3v 2.4ghz, Q9450 1.2v 2.66ghz and so on
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Uploaded some screens of my current OC at post #15. This is the temperature after rain.

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for the setting, the temp is super normal...
the temp for 45nm will have a significant increase, when the vcore is increased.
and for 3.2ghz, the vocre is quite high imo, stock vcore should able to do it or even more..
lastly, if ur processor work well at stock setting, i dont think u can rma it..
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I never really research how much my processor needs on my setup. I'll try at stock then 1.2v. hehe
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QUOTE(iBenQ @ Apr 14 2009, 12:34 PM)
u call that high? u aint seen the temps on my quaddie @ 4ghz yet
i doubt that's his idle temp... difference between load and idle is less than 3c on core temp? how can 1
u run OCCT of cos la super pi performance drop.... both trying to take over processing power... apa la

conclusion, ur temp is pretty much normal... from the looks of the vcore, it's as predicted... regarding the error on occt, im not sure if occt sees faults on ram as an error or not
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kekeke wokey la bro...noobie here....i just itchy to run both lol....but on normal it got at 14s kekeke...


QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 14 2009, 12:46 PM)
does the multiplier dropped when its idling???
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yup drop to x 6.0..

QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 14 2009, 03:48 PM)
He didn't turn off EIST so his multiplier will drop when idle.
There most be something wrong with your hardware then. You did a very good job on the cables. I don't know how many fans you can put into your casing but more fans will help the cooling. I can see a FM123 on the exhaust.  
His idle is 56C and load is 66C. He didn't put Realtemp on his first screenshot.

Idle without any stress at 3.2Ghz@1.25v :
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Load at 3.2Ghz@1.25v:
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yaaa bro thats what im talking about different between IDLE & LOAD the core temp......yup multiplier drop when idle....fan all stock on my Raven except the exhaust..ya i use FM123 nice & gud fan tongue.gif ...

QUOTE(hengmy @ Apr 14 2009, 05:46 PM)
for the setting, the temp is super normal...
the temp for 45nm will have a significant increase, when the vcore is increased.
and for 3.2ghz, the vocre is quite high imo, stock vcore should able to do it or even more..
lastly, if ur processor work well at stock setting, i dont think u can rma it..
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hmmm...ok...yup it well on stock setting but the core temp lo sweat.gif...


ok here my new screenshot i took after i turn it off coz got clazz today lol..

here the Idle screenshot
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here the Load screenshot
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My question here is not about my temp getting higher when OC or wut...but can u all spot the different on IDLE & LOAD on 4 of my cores?

and 4 ur information i repeat it back i got this prob since i bought it & since i know nothing about OC and run this proc at stock speed which is 2.66ghz..

all the 4 cores on high temp all the time sweat.gif...this is wut im asking....why the temp not lower at idle even at normal stock speed...i hope its clear by now laugh.gif...

bro TristanX thx for ur screenshot ur helping me thumbup.gif to see normal temp at the 4 cores on idle =.=||...

and i oredi done searching & googling about this prob b4 i post this thread.....some forum said its FAULTY SENSOR on wut i dunno & some said its becoz bios not updated =.=||...

so i post this thread coz want to hear from sifu's here whether this is serious prob or wut notworthy.gif .....or maybe someone can share if got similar prob like me thumbup.gif ..

btw thx too all 4 replying my answer thumbup.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by kilowatt: Apr 14 2009, 06:29 PM

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