http://forum.lowyat.net/user/ManLivArs <---------- This guy.. WANTED!!!!

according to ur siggy u fan of Cesc, do u will support Barca if Cesc return to Catalan

impressive.. how can anybody support mu, arsenal and liverpool at the same time? maybe he wants a win-win solution. whoever wins the league, he happy..lol

I know it's a football forum.

I know we are here to discuss football.

But I also know that this issue has been discussed to death.

And over the year(s), I've also managed to accept that we should all screw this elitism (not directed at anyone in case I rattle a few cages) and give anyone and everyone a right to support whomever and whatever they want which is why I no longer post around here any more.

You may love the club more than me but that certainly doesn't prevent me from having a right to support the club and don the jerseys that you do in the same manner.

mate, i started supporting arsenal since i was 8. cesc only came four years later. clearly, i will not leave arsenal for anyone! any barca is the last club i will support, no offence..

well i was in the states and was following green bay packersm even tho i liked 49ers, cos of the shitass town i was at, and the fans are still true fans.
what ur going on is probably fans who will pay a slight interest in a team their fav player goes to.
like for pool fans, im sure some have some sorta interest in newcastle or north queensland...tho i seriously doubt anyone cares about galatasaray...

football is a team game afterall, not an individual sport like tennis where u can follow mcenroe in one era, and then roddick in another.

Well i can see u defo a Kaka fan, and perhaps even a milan fan. But the word supporter is often thrown around a lot and loses its real meaning. Can you honestly say they you are a supporter of Milan as you are with Arsenal ? Its all rather subjective since it very much depends on your affinity with a particular club. For me, a supporter should means what it means, you need to support the team. You follow their match, take special interest of their history and current progress, you feel overwhelming emotions in the face of either defeats or wins etc. Basically dedicating a small part in your life supporting a particular club.

So far never thought of support any other EPL teams beside Liverpool.

Being a supporter and fancy certain team play style is 2 different things. Like I would say Barcelona provide the best football visual ever in fact I like their play style, but still Im not their supporter. And when a day Liverpool clash with Barca I will still yell for Reds without a moment of ponder. Actually if u ask me who is Barcelona coach, I also duno. lol

And of course, a real supporter is the one who should love the clubs, not because of certain big player who join in. Like b4 Rafa joined Liverpool, i din even know who the hell he is, but I just believe he is a good coach, because Liverpool choose him. Love the club, love the players thats how a real supporter to be.

I would never stop supporting my club. Even if they get relegated and shit. Forever a red. (not the devil one).

well then, clearly i am a fan of ac milan and valencia and a supporter of arsenal. i mean, i follow all the teams progresses and i feel overwhelming emotions when they win or lose(more emotions for arsenal,hehe) but when it comes to club histories, i guess arsenal is the only club i actually want to take an interest in. i feel like i NEED to know everything abt the club and their glory days and i am willing to stay up at odd hours to watch them play even when i have tests the next day or so. and when milan and arsenal played each other last season cl, my tears were of joy, not sadness one bit

Yes and no. The topic I started previous entitled "Real Fan" was aimed at determining what the definition of the word is. The issue in contention here is whether or not it's ok to swap allegiances? It doesn't mean that this person doesn't read up about the club he supports and all at the time (though I believe if he did, he wouldn't need a swap).

Golden,

You have mentioned situation where clubs have been relegated and you don't get to watch them play anymore. Well you also did mention that you've supported 3 of the "big four" in your time as a fan. Which of them have been relegated?

If you ask me, it has deeper implications. A fear of commitment being one perhaps? In order to avoid any disappointment and hardship, we simply chose to follow the flavour of the month because that way, we'll always be riding on a crest of happiness. When the chips are down, why go through the painful emotions of dispair and anguish? Who not just find happiness elsewhere? Scoff at this suggestion if you wish but I do think it can indicate the measure of a man.

Yeah thats sounds about right. Theres this unwavering obsession in following a team that you truly support. Unless of course you're one a Beckham fan that trails him from one club to another

And a real fan wouldn't switch clubs.

i know quite number of friends who are still :

1. a forest fan. he's been a fan since the 80s.
2. a leeds united fan. again, since the 80s.
3. hammer fan, simply because he was born there.
4. barnsley fan, because it was the first team he got to know when he went there for studies.

and more.

a lot of "smaller" or second flight teams have supporters here. just that you barely see them. to me, this is what they mean by being a "true fan".

back in the 90s when it was still the top3 and chelsea didnt exist yet
liverpool finished out of the top3 SEVEN times...lowest was 8th spot.
heck, even in this decade we've finished 5th twice.
maybe thats why there were no liverpool fans then

a survey, cant remember who did it, was done last yr...it showed a three-fold spike in liverpool 'fans' after istanbul...
that pretty much says it all.

Well ok then, this isn't the only topic that's been revisited then is it? We get new posters every now and then and there's always the chance of getting fresh input.

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Added on April 9, 2009, 6:43 pmBy the same measure, a fair number of Liverpool fans here started supporting in the 90's. Spice boys euphoria?

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Apr 9 2009, 06:43 PM

those are probably the ones who just want to be different from their manu supporting friends.

IMHO, regardless what club/s u supports/loves, its okay as long as not hate others...

keywords: hate =/= dislike

i hate tottenham... is that allowed? i really really really hate spurs

really ? i support Reds since 1995 which I am 11 years old that time.