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  It's finally there. Three months after the launch and over a month after our brief hands-on look, HP's Pavilion dv2 notebook has become available from the official HP online store.This system is one of a kind, treading the gray area between netbook and ultra-portable laptop with a high-res display, a single-core AMD processor, decent integrated graphics, and a thin-and-light form factor. Bad news if you had $700 saved up for the launch, though: the dv2 starts at $749.99 right now, despite HP telling everyone it would cost 50 bucks less in January.

Still, the dv2 has a nice mix of hardware for the price and size. The base config includes a 12.1" 1280x800 display, a 1.6GHz AMD Athlon Neo MV-40 processor, 4GB of DDR2 RAM (no, really), Mobility Radeon HD 3410 integrated graphics with HDMI output, a 320GB hard drive, 802.11n Wi-Fi, a six-cell battery, and an external DVD burner. No eight-year-old operating systems here, either: the dv2 comes with a full-fledged copy of Windows Vista Home Premium x64.

The single-core CPU may seem a bit light next to all that nice hardware, but it should perform much better than a similarly clocked Atom—and it still has a tight 15W thermal envelope. The dv2 is more about mobility than number-crunching power, anyway. HP notes that the laptop weighs only 3.95 lbs=1.3 kilos, is just 0.9-1.3" thick=2.3-3.3 centimeters, and features a "lustrous magnesium-aluminum alloy casing."


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HP dv2 netbook-notebook hybrid goes up for sale at $750 - The Tech Report


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could we expected this to be available during upcoming PcFair?
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LYN front page news says it starts at RM2400.

My Twitter has a little bit of my insight for this notebook. But those comments were written under the assumption that it was going to be ~RM3000. At 2400 it's okay.
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it's tru only 1.3Kg?
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it's tru only 1.3Kg?
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and i'm quite sure i've read somewhere that it's 1.8kg
and not using magnesium alloy construction. the casing looks very plastic with very curvy design. looks more like plastics than mag alloy.
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as per HP PC Fair brochure

RM2,399 free Microsoft E-learning course worths RM480 + Sonic Gear Headset worths RM 79 + Optical Mouse

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saw it at thundermatch in lowyat tht day

nice design
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the weight is not taken into account the external dvd/bluray
and also, don't know whether external dvd is optional buy, but quite sure external bluray should be an optional buy wink.gif
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QUOTE(sordanny @ Apr 9 2009, 09:50 AM)
the weight is not taken into account the external dvd/bluray
and also, don't know whether external dvd is optional buy, but quite sure external bluray should be an optional buy  wink.gif
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it's a netbook from the hardware spec. and a gaming netbook for sure. so u dont take dvd rom in consideration. most of the netbook do not provide dvd-rom drive
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hmm i think dv2 would not really fit into the netbook category maybe something like a slower processor with some gaming capabilities such as some of the old dual core 12" notebooks
it uses a built in graphic but can be upgraded with a 512mb ati card

i really wonder how's the speed and performance of this one rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Apr 9 2009, 10:42 AM)
hmm i think dv2 would not really fit into the netbook category maybe something like a slower processor with some gaming capabilities such as some of the old dual core 12" notebooks
it uses a built in graphic but can be upgraded with a 512mb ati card

i really wonder how's the speed and performance of this one  rolleyes.gif
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i understand ya concern as well.. with such spec if u dont look at the processor. it's actually can consider a powerful portable notebook. HP is not the 1 who built a GC in an netbook. infact ASUS did it too.

now the question is... with an extra hot AMD proceesor and a 512MB dedicated GC. how hot it can be? this is the major concern i had in mind when i saw it.
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being amd, any heat issues?
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saw it from house of notebook gurney, RM2399, free external DVDRom.
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QUOTE(sordanny @ Apr 9 2009, 09:50 AM)
the weight is not taken into account the external dvd/bluray
and also, don't know whether external dvd is optional buy, but quite sure external bluray should be an optional buy  wink.gif
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The external drive is included.
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The external drive is included.
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even when it's included, i have to say, a single core notebook/netbook with 12" screen at 1.8kg?
that's quite heavy for a 12 incher
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it seems like no difference with a CQ 20 except the gc/dvd drive and the nice looking design
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will b buying HP DV2 in PC Fair, saw it not long ago, nice n sleek smile.gif
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Wow, so the RM2400 model plays Left 4 Dead.
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QUOTE(sordanny @ Apr 9 2009, 10:42 AM)
i really wonder how's the speed and performance of this one  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fulat @ Apr 9 2009, 10:58 AM)
now the question is... with an extra hot AMD proceesor and a 512MB dedicated GC. how hot it can be? this is the major concern i had in mind when i saw it.
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Athlon Neo is nowhere comparable to the power output and performance of its hotter dual core cousins. And if you take heat into consideration, Turion notebooks are only as hot as Apple notebooks. Mmm, no. Actually cooler.

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Wow, so the RM2400 model plays Left 4 Dead.
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Dream harder. Although this subnotebook comes with an ATI chip, it falls quite a distance short of the ATI 3200 or 3450 found on the CQ40 series. And the CPU is single core at that, at much slower speed. See benchmark above. So bottom line, no Left 4 Dead. It might be sufficient to run Doom 3 though.
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QUOTE(Bad Cyborg @ Apr 10 2009, 12:57 AM)
Athlon Neo is nowhere comparable to the power output and performance of its hotter dual core cousins. And if you take heat into consideration, Turion notebooks are only as hot as Apple notebooks. Mmm, no. Actually cooler.
Dream harder. Although this subnotebook comes with an ATI chip, it falls quite  a distance short of the ATI 3200 or 3450 found on the CQ40 series. And the CPU is single core at that, at much slower speed. See benchmark above. So bottom line, no Left 4 Dead. It might be sufficient to run Doom 3 though.
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I think you pretty much underestimate how lenient the Source engine is.

People get away with it playing on a Pentium 4 and Geforce FX 5200.

Previously when source was single-threaded (dual core NOT used), I played TF2 on my 780G, all high (w/o AA). So it's possible.
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LOL the processor has my name! The design looks quite attractive. Would buy it just for the novelty of the name but I already have a CQ40.
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finally AMD has answered the challenge in netbook market
the price is good as it got 4 GB RAM support, HD3410, HDMI

with the HD3410 it should be able to decode H.264 AVC on the fly without relying on the processor, which can be a great choice for portable BD player
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The notebook selling like hotcake.
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Apr 11 2009, 10:35 AM)
The notebook selling like hotcake.
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You sure? I like the notebook, but I'm not sure the general audience likes it.



But compared to the Atom + 9300M, the Neo seems waaaay better value for money. The Asus N10J can't even run HL2.
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the notebook itself is 1.86kg as stated inthe box, n ive carried it in my hands. im one of those earlier whove seen n touched it, theres a post somewhere here re it , keyboards r nice...very glossy design, as expected from HP

1.86 is rly not that light without a build in drive for a ultranetportabook, well sort of, as some internet called it lol. cuz its a sub niche

the usb ext drive is more powerful than ur avg usb . n not able to use on just any notebook, at least thts wht the salesman told me when i was lookin at dv3 he recommednme tis over dv3. he seem more interested than me lol

is it worth it? its a mixed bag of beans if i must say. meaning it cud go eitherway but im leaning to the pessimist. blu ray drive is nice (tho i no i nv use BR, with a HP brand on it n looking good at the same time, 4gb (how exp is 2gddr2 nowdays lol rmi got one for 64rm recently) n ati 3k series but rm2.4k for a solo core? id think twice. its like -its not the powerful c2d, yet its not cheap (tho better) than netbook, so dpds on the potential buyer lo

some go as far as claiming amd neo is only to fill the time gap till they rd to market Congo, wich is a dual core for this segment but tts js rumor

2.4k, id get sthg else lol, even 13.3" j13es twinhead for 2.4k @ 1.65kg or rm2k++ 1.9kg c2d nec s3300/3500 ofc, with a built in dvddrive lol well thats js for example how 'light' a nb without a drive

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the notebook itself is 1.86kg as stated inthe box, n ive carried it in my hands. im one of those earlier whove seen n touched it, theres a post somewhere here re it , keyboards r nice...very glossy design, as expected from HP

1.86 is rly not that light without a build in drive for a ultranetportabook, well sort of, as some internet called it lol. cuz its a sub niche

the usb ext drive is more powerful than ur avg usb . n not able to use on just any notebook, at least thts wht the salesman told me when i was lookin at dv3 he recommednme tis over dv3. he seem more interested than me lol

is it worth it? its a mixed bag of beans if i must say. meaning it cud go eitherway but im leaning to the pessimist. blu ray drive is nice (tho i no i nv use BR, with a HP brand on it n looking good at the same time, 4gb (how exp is 2gddr2 nowdays lol rmi got one for 64rm recently) n ati 3k series but rm2.4k for a solo core? id think twice. its like -its not the powerful c2d, yet its not cheap (tho better) than netbook, so dpds on the potential buyer lo

some go as far as claiming amd neo is only to fill the time gap till they rd to market Congo, wich is a dual core for this segment but tts js rumor

2.4k, id get sthg else lol, even 13.3" j13es twinhead for 2.4k @ 1.65kg or rm2k++ 1.9kg c2d nec s3300/3500 ofc, with a built in dvddrive lol well thats js for example how 'light' a nb without a drive
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you spoke my mind. it does look somewhat awesome outside, but for 12" i do think it could be lighter. 1.8kg is just too heavy for a 12". a lot of manufacturer managed to squeeze at least 13" while keeping the weight below 2kg. some even managed to squeeze 14.4" with built in optical drive and still not be heavier than 2kg.
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it's nice and affordable..but too bad, small screen for me
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I think it's genius but not everyone's me.

- It might look heavy but the key specs are actually dimensions (size). None of the notebooks in that region are that slim or small. Plus, if we consider this a netbook, how often do we actually need the optical disc? Very occasional IMO. It's just there for show.

It opens up a lot of experiences previously unusable for Netbooks/Cheap GMA notebooks. You can now play torrented (lol) HD video (and use the notebook as a HTPC), play some simpler 3D games properly (Sims comes to mind), use software that have hardware accelerated interfaces (Zune 3.0 software etc)...

This notebook is like the Canon 40D/Nikon D300 of cameras. They have the same image quality (approximate) as the cheaper 450D/D90 models, but are not that fast/good compared to the D3/1DMk3.

What makes them worth it? Better control interfaces (bigger keyboard), faster shot speed (faster processing), better build quality (magnesium casing) and design etc.

Don't get me wrong- I won't get the dv2 myself UNTIL it has a 780G (with sideport mem 256MB, which is about the same as 3410), 45nm dual core low volt CPU and possibly 9 cell battery. The current machine does not suit me in terms of those criteria. But it would be a great fit for the majority of college students who would rather be dead than caught using a Twinhead lol.



Now if HP had a brain (or two) they'd start selling this at RM1899 or 1999 WITHOUT Optical drive, which puts it only slightly pricier than a normal netbook.

That would be killer.
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guys...i can't find this laptop selling at HP website..is there any links to help?
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Apr 12 2009, 12:51 PM)
I think it's genius but not everyone's me.

- It might look heavy but the key specs are actually dimensions (size). None of the notebooks in that region are that slim or small. Plus, if we consider this a netbook, how often do we actually need the optical disc? Very occasional IMO. It's just there for show.

It opens up a lot of experiences previously unusable for Netbooks/Cheap GMA notebooks. You can now play torrented (lol) HD video (and use the notebook as a HTPC), play some simpler 3D games properly (Sims comes to mind), use software that have hardware accelerated interfaces (Zune 3.0 software etc)...

This notebook is like the Canon 40D/Nikon D300 of cameras. They have the same image quality (approximate) as the cheaper 450D/D90 models, but are not that fast/good compared to the D3/1DMk3.

What makes them worth it? Better control interfaces (bigger keyboard), faster shot speed (faster processing), better build quality (magnesium casing) and design etc.


Don't get me wrong- I won't get the dv2 myself UNTIL it has a 780G (with sideport mem 256MB, which is about the same as 3410), 45nm dual core low volt CPU and possibly 9 cell battery. The current machine does not suit me in terms of those criteria. But it would be a great fit for the majority of college students who would rather be dead than caught using a Twinhead lol.
Now if HP had a brain (or two) they'd start selling this at RM1899 or 1999 WITHOUT Optical drive, which puts it only slightly pricier than a normal netbook.

That would be killer.

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Now acer has 13.3" brushed aluminium WITH A BUILT IN DRIVE @ 1.9kg has a praised keyboard as well as layout, u can prolly forget the fuss of deicision making whether or not u need should bring along ur external dvddrive cuz if i could tell, id be a millionaire.

it is less than 1 inch thick with a P8600 brains with a 4G DDR2 on board and a GF9300 tho not a good class dgpu but i think these size n specs alone wud give the DV2 a run for its money. ofc, the price is small differences cuz include the 3yrs waranty, DV2 is about 2.65k vs Acer's 3k is not that great ofa differences. moreover, HP repu isnt that far ahead of Acer i.t.o quality, imho.

ok, twinhead or not, but im sure many dont mind getting an ACer. heck! with such specs n look, id get acer myself ! Lol.

i agree on ur suggestion of HP pricing -without the ext drive, givin ppl extra option -since the netbook is without a drive too but position it at 2.4k is a different ballgame, one that loses many potential than teh DV2 truly deserve

i think we shd be discussing Acer 3935 now lol
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Apr 20 2009, 04:27 PM)
Now acer has 13.3" brushed aluminium WITH A BUILT IN DRIVE @ 1.9kg has a praised keyboard as well as layout, u can prolly forget the fuss of deicision making whether or not u need should bring along ur external dvddrive cuz if i could tell, id be a millionaire.

it is less than 1 inch thick with a P8600 brains with a 4G DDR2 on board and a GF9300 tho not a good class dgpu but i think these size n specs alone wud give the DV2 a run for its money. ofc, the price is small differences cuz include the 3yrs waranty, DV2 is about 2.65k  vs Acer's 3k is not that great ofa differences. moreover, HP repu isnt that far ahead of Acer i.t.o quality, imho.

ok, twinhead or not, but im sure many dont mind getting an ACer. heck! with such specs n look, id get acer myself ! Lol.

i agree on ur suggestion of HP pricing -without the ext drive, givin ppl extra option -since the netbook is without a drive too but position it at 2.4k is a different ballgame, one that loses many potential than teh DV2 truly deserve

i think we shd be discussing Acer 3935 now lol
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wen bro Acer one don't have a discrete graphics card.....
dv2 is good value of money just not sure how the processor will perform
and also not to mention the heat.....
so far some reviews have said processing power not that great, better than atom but still not able to handle heavy stuff
batt life ain't that great either
and a lot of reviews skipped the heat part

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how come got so many dv2 thread?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/978722
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i saw white colour at ad in LYN...i oso interested on it...n i did check with one sales person in last pc fair, he said max support is onli 2gb ram as it is only got 1 ram slot wo...is it true?
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ok, frankly, anybody actually tested running a HD 1080p or 720p movie on this baby? Yes or No? How does it fared?

and regarding it selling with the ext rom, i think its a better option to hav the rom IN the package. i know that by removing the rom the package would be cheaper, but somehow its still a better option to actually include it. u can hav the rom readily available at home and yet u only need to bring the 1inch notebook out without the weight of the rom.
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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Apr 21 2009, 10:15 PM)
i saw white colour at ad in LYN...i oso interested on it...n i did check with one sales person in last pc fair, he said max support is onli 2gb ram as it is only got 1 ram slot wo...is it true?
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White is coming in May. I'm waiting for the dual core version with a single 780G/880G (HD3200) instead.

The 2GB ram only is BS. The US dv2 models come with 4GB of RAM. However if you want to upgrade to 4GB, you'll have to pay quite a hefty price as single sticks are expensive here.


@don^don
720p definitely yes, 1080p shouldn't have problems in general (super high bitrate stutter?)

Youtube HD can't be streamed- a solution for this would be downloading the whole damn clip and playing it later on with Media Player Classic. Flash = fail, as usual.


I still recommend HP to introduce a DVD-less SKU though. If this gets to 2000 the 10.1 inch Eees at RM1.6, 1.7k really can't keep selling since Atom even sucks at intensive web browsing.


@wayfeel

More like 2.45kg, a 35W (not 25W) C2D CPU, and Intel Integrated 4500 for the RM3000 price. Horrid deal compared to the RM700 rebated C2D HP dv3____ @RM3000 since the Acer looks cheap IMO.

Oh, and count in an external optical mouse for the Acer since the trackpad seems to be meant for lady fingers.

You really need to feel the notebook itself to make conclusions about portability. The dv2 after being "manhandled' by me in PC Fair, with its tapered edges and relatively small footprint, is still much easier to grab and carry than say, a 13' NB that is "0.5kg" heavier.

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Apr 22 2009, 11:56 AM)

More like 2.45kg, a 35W (not 25W) C2D CPU, and Intel Integrated 4500 for the RM3000 price. Horrid deal compared to the RM700 rebated C2D HP dv3____ @RM3000 since the Acer looks cheap IMO.

Oh, and count in an external optical mouse for the Acer since the trackpad seems to be meant for lady fingers.

You really need to feel the notebook itself to make conclusions about portability. The dv2 after being "manhandled' by me in PC Fair, with its tapered edges and relatively small footprint, is still much easier to grab and carry than say, a 13' NB that is "0.5kg" heavier.
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we don hv the 3935 here yet i think so its true i hv not seen it irl so the spec n images i saw was the closest thing. by right, the realthing should not vary that much ofa difference such as a spec of 1.9kg felt like a 2.45kg, wud be a severe misleading acer advert, don u think. hmmm, how much is mouse to be ever a factor in notebook purchase.

but since u say the actual notebook look cheapskate i shall reserve my judgement on the 3935 then. but at first glance ,the model looks rly good.

BTW, it come with P8n00 aint it? both p84/8600 is a 25w.

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fren, thx for ur sharing. like tat i will wait till may, white version to release...personally i prefer duo core version than AMD due to heating issue....n i knw, my gf love WHITE....so no rushing since i got extra notebk for current usage.
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 8 2009, 10:06 PM)
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fren, wat u would like to comment bout??yes, its HP dv2
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who is using HP dv2? can tell me about performance n any problem happen
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No wonder i can't find my thread at hardware section, moved here edy.. laugh.gif


i saw the White version of DV2 at ALLIT last week. very beyauutiful..

I am soooo tempted to buy ittt ._.

And i am eager to know about idle/load temp of this hybrid notebook...since many reviews don't talk about it.


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erm... anyone know which shop can i get it in lowyat plaza?
and around how much?

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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 7 2009, 06:38 PM)
I am soooo tempted to buy ittt ._.

And i am eager to know about idle/load temp  of this hybrid notebook...since many reviews don't talk about it.
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TEMPS * TEMPS * TEMPS * ALL ABOUT TEMPS

Buy it man. Or you cannot sleep, cannot eat..... Very soon you cannot breathe too. Then what you do?

 

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