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Business ACCA V5!, Long live bean counters! :D

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fastandfurious
post Nov 16 2009, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Jessicacwp @ Nov 15 2009, 10:23 PM)
Hi, is substantive analytical procedures same as analytical procedures?
Just to confirm.. thanks for reply  smile.gif
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Since analytical procedures can be carried out at any stage, to be more accurate, you can call it as Preliminary Analytical Procedures (beg of the audit) , Substantive Analytical Procedures (during the audit) , Overall Analytical Procedures (end of the audit).

Preliminary Analytical Procedures(usually ratios) - part of the risk assessment procedures (mandatory)

Substantive Analytical Procedures(trend analysis,proof in total, ratios) - part of the substantive procedures (which is optional, depending on the risk assessment and other factors. EG : If ToC can be relied on, there is a higher chance you can put reliance on substantive analytical procedures and carry out less tests of details. If ToC is weak , you have to carry out detailed substantive procedures and that means more tests of details with little or no substantive analytical procedures)

Overall Analytical Procedures (usually ratios) - Mandatory - to check to see if the F/S as a WHOLE is reasonable and consistent with your audit findings

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post Nov 18 2009, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(maymay @ Nov 17 2009, 10:34 PM)
i just got a exam docket, i chose TAR college, but they send me to UCSI cry.gif dunno how to go

anyone here taking exam in UCSI too?
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ucsi @ connaught? pasar malam connaught tau D: . or if it's at taman taynton the location of the 2 ucsi pretty close also lol.
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post Dec 2 2009, 04:07 PM

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Any current F6 or P6 students here can help me- In order to determine the total sales value chargeable to tax , usually we include freight charges, insurance, cost of purchase of the material and import duty. Is processing cost included ?? according to my old F6 textbook it shld not be included but the notes by my lecturer includes it. pls update me on this appreciate much!
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post Dec 7 2009, 09:09 PM

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did p6 today, p7 tmr wtf i hate back2back exams. cant they leave us some breathing space T_T
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post Dec 8 2009, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(b3llad0nna @ Dec 8 2009, 02:07 PM)
This i Like! thumbup.gif  Examined on what i know..hehe How i wish!!

Any comments on the P6 paper? i was lost on question 2...the 35 marker! overall better than last sitting. But still wasnt anywhere near easy smile.gif


Added on December 8, 2009, 2:25 pm
dunno about philip woo..but if u can get ur hands on Chin Ann's tips for F8...i'd say his tips are like 70% reliable smile.gif only F8 tips...the other papers no comments. But then again, I heard F8 paper is set by a committee this year  since Alan lewin stepped down. So am not too sure whether it's predicatable at all or not..

Gud luck! Cheers!
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Q2 i think it's all about the exemption on qualifying services right ? I hope they award a lot of marks for calculating that only. i screwed up mostly on the rest of the Q2 i think haha. But Q1,Q4 and Q5 can cover smile.gif

P7 Q1 tough lik shiet, Q2 was time sucker,Q4 and Q5 unbelievably easy. heh.
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post Dec 8 2009, 11:06 PM

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anyway time to enjoy 2months! haha wth thinking abt things we cant change already huhuhuuu
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post Dec 14 2009, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(yyteik @ Dec 14 2009, 11:12 AM)
so if i start question 2 at first page of the booklet is ok izzit? the question answered need not follow the sequence right? just write the question number on top page and bubble it correct?
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u r correct. but the bubble part. i dont get it. blink.gif You wan start at Page 2 also can like I always do biggrin.gif

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post Dec 16 2009, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(ccjj1234 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:20 PM)
To correct, above is all my friend's view... not mine.... I still think Ms Menon is pretty good !!!
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Heh, she is good for instilling fear in us. The fear of attending her class, not so much failure in the exam lol. And the way she lectures... heck I felt as though she spotted the entire syllabus. I didn't dare to leave out any parts. Well, p2 is history for me anyway D:

As for which Q to do first I always believe in doing the "difficult" one, usually Q1 that have long paragraphs first(doesn't mean you hold on the Q and don't let go, times X marks with 1.8mins to gauge roughly when you should stop). Because those Qs are the ones that require a lot of thinking. Those easy ones that don't need you to crack your head means you can write and write without thinking so much. Very often I find myself doing the easy Q in the last 15 minutes and I still managed to do a large part of the Q(and still writing eventhough the time is up tongue.gif). I don't think it's wise to do the easy Qs first(you will be damn comfortable and overwrite most of the time I believe *I'm a perfectionist*) . When panic sets in, your thinking ability will be impaired already. When you can't think well, your answers might be crappy also.

Then again after sayin so much if you can't come out with your own method, the probability is you haven't practiced enough questions under exam condition (time constraint) & pls don't deny haha.

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post Dec 16 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 16 2009, 09:10 AM)
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Haha, if start with the difficult question, then student got chance for lost a lot of marks in easy question. Always remember easy question are more easy to earn marks compare with difficult question. As I know a lot of student normally done well for earlier question and bad in last question.

So always ask yourself how many mark can earn for 1st Q? So if u start with the Q1 50m, can you gurantee can earn 35m to 40m? If can, then go ahead. Fot me, if start with easiest question, I can earn at least 20m from 25m.

In P level, student advise to plan the time in all question, must learn "let go". For eg, the max time for 50m Q1 is 1 1/2 hours, once the time over, student should go to other question, don't care about can finish or not.

Again, please read careful for my opinion. I never saying should answer Q1 in last, but only saying START 1 EASY QUESTION IN SEC B, FOLLOW BY Q1, LAST ONE IS ANOTHER Q IN SEC B. For me, do 50m Q1 in Second Question is better.


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In your exam, there is no time for you for "thinking" no matter you answer Sec A or Sec B 1st.
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Well generally Q1 and/or Q2 for part3 papers have longer scenarios. Papers like P1,P3,P7 have rather SHORTER scenarios for Section B. Well not everyone can do away the thinking and keep writing unless you're an excellent student who can read the scenario & requirements once and then proceed writing. I'm just an average student here D: . But I managed to survive thus far. D:

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post Dec 16 2009, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiyaya @ Dec 16 2009, 12:29 PM)
Fingers crossed for P3 today! T___T  shakehead.gif
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lol all the best to you biggrin.gif.


QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:54 PM)
But if thinking 1st, then go to write will waste a lot of time.
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I don't quite get what you mean lol. How can one write without first thinking? Ok let me rephrase my sentences. One will need longer time to understand longer scenarios and shorter time to understand shorter scenarios. Have you not attempted Section B questions in like i don't know, 20 minutes? 15minutes? Imagine spending 20-15mins on Q1 when you have overwritten for your Section B(just an example)
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post Dec 17 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(candicelkm @ Dec 17 2009, 02:12 PM)
LOL! I dun understand u really, just a discussion you will go around calling ppl studing ACCA thinking at SPM level. We have our own method of answering, not necessarily to follow what u say in accordance. This is also a method recommended by many prestigious lecturer. If so, u would be calling all of them at SPM level and only u and the ppl who follow u at ACCA level? Ur attitude is really at primary school level.  tongue.gif
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I feel you . lol
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post Dec 17 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 17 2009, 07:41 PM)
My past experience I've preferred BPP over Kaplan, and GTG over Kaplan too, but GTG struck me as very 'basic' that there doesn't seem to be much depth in it's text.

@88Xavier88,

as said, prizes are

M'sian prize = highest in malaysia for that paper
World prize = highest in the world for that paper
It's not exclusive to one only though, (there are joint winners in the past)

Scores required
CAT = 99/100 only. I've rarely seen anyone getting prizes for scores less than 99, imo.

ACCA

F1-F3, generally in the 95-100 category
F4-F8, generally in the 90-95s
F9, generally 85++ will get u a prize.
P1-P3, prizes generally in the 80s+, but there are sittings where the scorers are real nutjobs and get around 90s
P4-P7, on average 80s is a prizewinner marks.

Medalists
Every sitting ACCA will award medalists for highest total score

CAT medalists (for papers T5-T10, (5 papers)
Higher score for the 5 papers, on average score is about 430+ (about 90 per paper)

ACCA medalists (highest for papers P1-P7, (5 papers, 3 core, 2 optionals)
Average high score being about 350-400, being an average of about 75 per paper.

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Aim high, it's hard but the recognition is different compared to an ordinary ACCA cert, and helps to make up for some 'deficiencies' in ur results (say u failed one paper or so)
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I heard that you can't get prizes for papers that you resit and get highest. True? D:
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post Dec 19 2009, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(semivalue @ Dec 19 2009, 01:04 AM)
I feel that GTG is full of craps.
The only thing I like about GTG is they have synopsis. However I believe this could be made by anyone with a rational mindset.
I seriously don't know why Sunway patrionize them, but they only reason I could think of is because GTG is thick.
Anyway, this is just my personal preference.
Kinda regret that our college lecturer recommended us to buy this book from Sunway. I threw it away after read through a chapter. I guess our lecturer has the same mentality with Sunway as well - thick.

The best among 3, I would go for BPP.
However, they have craps inside as well, but not as much as GTG.
The best beyond these 3, are some notes which were produced by own lecturers - concentrate, and simple =) =)
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I agree with you. they're forcing us to buy the gtg crap from them wtf lol & the funniest thing is.. they don't touch a page from it at all. simply ask u to read the dumb topics only like ethics for p2 and human resource mgmt for p3 & human resource is something u will learn from P1 lol and it came out in my sitting i totally bullcrapped without having read a single thing on it. I prefer BPP the best. It helped me since CAT lol.
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post Dec 19 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinbadroyal @ Dec 19 2009, 11:32 AM)
lol, i dun even bother to read GTG textbook at all. sometime i dun even collect the textbook although i have paid my school fees. i wonder why my college, sunway will prefer this publisher as coursebook?
its so damn crapping and bulky. compare GTG to kaplan, i rather prefer kaplan, but compare to BPP, its the best among all.
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but no matter how good the textbooks are hmm... i don't remember reading them for P lvl lol. only use lecturer's notes except P6 use CKF's book.
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post Dec 19 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jessicacwp @ Dec 19 2009, 06:39 PM)
newbie question :

my friend is going to take f8 and f9 this sitting, planning to take 1 more paper.
can she take P2 first, instead of take P1 and P3?
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Can. Either p1, p2 , p3 or all of them or any combination of two including F8 and F9. (but max 4 subj) haha. btw, i have a Q. Can I take more than 2 optional papers? Fail 1 still can graduate~ lol
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post Dec 20 2009, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(jonwei @ Dec 20 2009, 04:59 PM)
It's usually for those resit students who have missed the earlier (1month+) classes. The lecturers will go through whatever they have taught (in a few hours session) so u won't get lost when you pay for the 2nd term fees and attend their classes D: . So those existing students have a choice of attending or not attending the bridging classes (if u feel lazy just sleep at home after all same things will be taught again) D:
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QUOTE(lavender27 @ Dec 21 2009, 09:17 AM)
now i'm consider to take P123....which lecturer is the best in teaching these courses....any good suggestion...i heard Mr menon will not teach P2 's student is that student is not previously study in sunway is it true ?
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Menon's class is always full one lo. There's this waiting list she always mentioned about for students who want to come in to her class but can't coz full already. I think priority will be given to existing Sunway students and people who register early though.
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post Dec 23 2009, 03:32 AM

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So... do the employers (big 4 or big 5) really look for the marks? Let's not talk about prize winners lol. They're priviledged people.
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Dec 7 2009, 03:40 AM)
I disagree with your choice...
Even if you wanna be laid-back and not so hardworking, starting off with CAT is still the better option(economic wise)
The cost to study all the way till degree then transfer to ACCA is so much higher than studying CAT then go on to ACCA..
And if you're the laid back type and don't want too much stress, you can take only 2 papers at a time and completing it in 4-5years(the same time taken to complete degree then transfer to ACCA but this is so much cheaper)
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but degree got campus life "feel" sad.gif. i started frm CAT & missing the normal uni/college life makes me feel jialat all the time lol~

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post Dec 28 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(YH90 @ Dec 28 2009, 05:10 PM)
Hey guys, I'm in a dilemma here. I'm taking F8, 9 and P2 next June sitting but might wanna change P2 with P1 just to have a better schedule for me.

But since I just finished F7 last semester, I'm thinking of just finish off P2 while the knowledge are still somewhat fresh. Are there any amendments for the P2 syllabus next June sitting?
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imho, one should always do P2 with P7 (if you're planning to do P7). It's easier to revise F7 than P2 on your own, right? biggrin.gif

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