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post Sep 3 2009, 07:04 PM

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Added on September 3, 2009, 6:46 pm

Doesnt really make any major difference but if you are those guys that think (take at sunway hard to pass..... take at others quality is reduced, easier to pass.....) then my suggestion is to take at remote places.

During CAT I took at TARC, students there got aura of icon_idea.gif ,exam under one large hall & you will see all kind of faces over there. Seen a girl crying bcos lack of time, guy sleeping bcos of boredom or confusion, got 1 student keep on asking extra booklet, one guy keep on going to the toilet,... but most shows that intimidating face that shows "I can do any question & score at every exam"..... brrr damn stressful.

Then I took at IPB (rejected at TAR bcos of geographical factor). The most relaxed place I ever been. At least half of the students are CAT not ACCA (both took together), hall is very long but not large so no need to see many faces over there. Most of the students are one kind, if you get my drill.
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oh noes , i m taking my exam at TARC this sem ...zz lol
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post Sep 3 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:37 PM)

Doesnt really make any major difference but if you are those guys that think (take at sunway hard to pass..... take at others quality is reduced, easier to pass.....) then my suggestion is to take at remote places.

During CAT I took at TARC, students there got aura of  icon_idea.gif ,exam under one large hall & you will see all kind of faces over there. Seen a girl crying bcos lack of time, guy sleeping bcos of boredom or confusion, got 1 student keep on asking extra booklet, one guy keep on going to the toilet,... but most shows that intimidating face that shows "I can do any question & score at every exam"..... brrr damn stressful.

Then I took at IPB (rejected at TAR bcos of geographical factor). The most relaxed place I ever been. At least half of the students are CAT not ACCA (both took together), hall is very long but not large so no need to see many faces over there. Most of the students are one kind, if you get my drill.
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is IPB de one at maluri? i heard there's one acca exam centre at maluri.. very near my place.. but dunno wat's de code.. sad.gif
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post Sep 3 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(innocence @ Sep 3 2009, 07:13 PM)
is IPB de one at maluri? i heard there's one acca exam centre at maluri.. very near my place.. but dunno wat's de code..  sad.gif
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Last time under Fed Terr (others) , now got a code on its own. Check IPB.
The exam form should show its code.
Most who live near KL took there (or designated to)
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post Sep 3 2009, 11:55 PM

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post Sep 4 2009, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 1 2009, 06:26 PM)
1) Very hard to find acca books from local bookstores. I know McO centre sells BPP books & P7 is one of them. For audit there is not much difference between international & MYS stream. Around 0.1% only.

2) Regarding self study, it is rather hard to say since everyone studies with different absorption rate. Comparing all this 3 papers, I will say P5 is the least hardest to manage. Why not you try to look at its precedent paper F5 before decide ?

3) There are a lot of people teaching F5 but only Andrew Pang & Chow Kim Tai with > 20 years experience. I have received many Pm from students from other lecturers that they are quite good too but then again it depends on their preference & style too.

4) Admin review is best avoided bcos examiner / marker always tried their best to pass the student within 45 - 49 marks range (speculative). However if you anyone is stuck at 49, it is most likely that the student have much such a grave error that examiner cannot pass the respective student. However if the examiner is in good mood .....who knows ?


Added on September 1, 2009, 6:34 pm

Demand for lecturer is a very interesting topic actually.
I dont think most people will actually go all the way to find "a lecturer" if they have not browsed this forum b4.
Most will just stick by a famous centre like Sunway or KSA.
So unless that particular lecturer is very reputable, there is actually 0 demand for that lecturer.
The demand all goes to the centre / university.

So its like you are saying, "I go to sunway bcos i really like that Mr X teaching for that particular paper".
Or "I go to that particular centre just bcos of that Mr Y, nothing more nothing less".

By the way I never study under Phillip Woo before, so you cannot literally flame me for being supportive of him, peace ya  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thinking to sign up for ACCA P3 IRC. where to go!! Looking at INTI (www.acca-success.com) , they have 4 classes before 3 days revision. Any good !!

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post Sep 4 2009, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(sjacca @ Sep 4 2009, 09:03 AM)
Thinking to sign up for ACCA P3 IRC.  where to go!!  Looking at INTI (www.acca-success.com) , they have 4 classes before 3 days revision. Any good !!
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i think the classes is for those who joined their 2nd term and not include in the irc
please take note!
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post Sep 4 2009, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:37 PM)
Examiner always set the exam with 50:50, fundamental : technical ratio.
Examiner expects student to do well in those fundamental areas (to pass) but more tolerant when students make technical mistake.
Technical mistake is very hard to discern, since examiner can released all kinds of difficult questions but if you encounter a very weird & confusing question, more likely its a technical question. However if question asked is direct but you make the mistake here, marker will not be amused.

Examples of fundamental error :
- Confusing TOC with SP
- Confusing credit sales with cash sales

Fundamental errors will likely committed by those students who learned by memorising or the "audit way" (flipping between questions & answers).
So the student just copy & paste regardless of the entire scenario.


Added on September 3, 2009, 6:46 pm

Doesnt really make any major difference but if you are those guys that think (take at sunway hard to pass..... take at others quality is reduced, easier to pass.....) then my suggestion is to take at remote places.

During CAT I took at TARC, students there got aura of  icon_idea.gif ,exam under one large hall & you will see all kind of faces over there. Seen a girl crying bcos lack of time, guy sleeping bcos of boredom or confusion, got 1 student keep on asking extra booklet, one guy keep on going to the toilet,... but most shows that intimidating face that shows "I can do any question & score at every exam"..... brrr damn stressful.

Then I took at IPB (rejected at TAR bcos of geographical factor). The most relaxed place I ever been. At least half of the students are CAT not ACCA (both took together), hall is very long but not large so no need to see many faces over there. Most of the students are one kind, if you get my drill.
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Oh... today i sit a test which prepare by phili woo... I found it very hard and I don have enough time to do... I one question din't do due to lack of time and one question simply do because of don understand the question... sigh... May be I spend too much time to think...this small test I found it very difficult, how do I sit for ACCA real exam?

I worry that whether will get at least 30marks or not.. because phili woo said if we score less than 30marks after attending his many classes then he got nothing to say d... he said 30 marks is defination, if we defination also can't score then no need sit for exam d... Now I attendig phili woo classes... Is it possible I pass my ACCA exam in first attempt?

Ya... My lecturer said better don go those centres which start with "T" and "S"... I may consider go to IPB but dono how to go... U guys know how to take LRT go?

Topace111, u finished all ur ACCA papers d?


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QUOTE(vin99 @ Sep 4 2009, 10:23 PM)
Oh... today i sit a test which prepare by phili woo... I found it very hard and I don have enough time to do... I one question din't do due to lack of time and one question simply do because of don understand the question... sigh... May be I spend too much time to think...this small test I found it very difficult, how do I sit for ACCA real exam?

I worry that whether will get at least 30marks or not.. because phili woo said if we score less than 30marks after attending his many classes then he got nothing to say d... he said 30 marks is defination, if we defination also can't score then no need sit for exam d... Now I attendig phili woo classes... Is it possible I pass my ACCA exam in first attempt?

Ya... My lecturer said better don go those centres which start with "T" and "S"... I may consider go to IPB but dono how to go... U guys know how to take LRT go?

Topace111, u finished all ur ACCA papers d?
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I finished all the papers already, just came back from a Big 4 interview today.

IPB very far from LRT (nearest is Maluri which is 2km away). But for anyone who lives near Klang valley or Cheras like me, its very near.

Phillip woo was known to spot inaccurately like most lecturers so just study based on your own.
My best tips to you, NEVER BELIEVE ANY LECTURER WORDS FOR GRANTED. Challenge the idea first then you will better comprehend it. Daniel Ho & Parmindar always encourage me to argue with them whenever I had any discussions with them. When I told them bluntly I dont believe any of their spots or tips, they encouraged me to do so.

Another thing worth mentioned is that your performance during exam is VERY DIFFERENT compared to normal time studies. Your mind works at different level at exam compared to normal classes perhaps due to focus & determination. Mock test is just to test your performance during that particular period of time. There is some lucky candidates that study 30% of syllabus & exam test exactly 30% of that so its unfair to gauge in that particular order.

In audit exam, only 10 marks are allocated for "pure memory stuff" which is qs 2 which I think is mostly definitions.
Apart from that most of the questions centred around applications : SP, SAP, TOC, the F/S audit (sales, cash), audit report,.....
Maybe Phillip told that to student to buck up their motivation so that they will work harder to score next time.
I have friends & lecturers keep on telling me that I cannot finish quickly, failed some,.... who cares, as long as you believe in yourself.

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hello guys,
i just commenced ACCA recently and taking F1,F2,F3 and F4 on December.
i was thinking of doing my F1,F2 and F3 exams on computer so that i'll just have to focus on F4 which requires strong memory power.
what do you guys think?
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QUOTE(synchun @ Sep 5 2009, 09:49 PM)
hello guys,
i just commenced ACCA recently and taking F1,F2,F3 and F4 on December.
i was thinking of doing my F1,F2 and F3 exams on computer so that i'll just have to focus on F4 which requires strong memory power.
what do you guys think?
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no idea,
if there is an easy way, why go for the tedious one?
and focus on the one which outcome is much valuable for your time
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post Sep 6 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 4 2009, 10:58 PM)
I finished all the papers already, just came back from a Big 4 interview today.

IPB very far from LRT (nearest is Maluri which is 2km away). But for anyone who lives near Klang valley or Cheras like me, its very near.

Phillip woo was known to spot inaccurately like most lecturers so just study based on your own.
My best tips to you, NEVER BELIEVE ANY LECTURER WORDS FOR GRANTED. Challenge the idea first then you will better comprehend it. Daniel Ho & Parmindar always encourage me to argue with them whenever I had any discussions with them. When I told them bluntly I dont believe any of their spots or tips, they encouraged me to do so.

Another thing worth mentioned is that your performance during exam is VERY DIFFERENT compared to normal time studies. Your mind works at different level at exam compared to normal classes perhaps due to focus & determination. Mock test is just to test your performance during that particular period of time. There is some lucky candidates that study 30% of syllabus & exam test exactly 30% of that so its unfair to gauge in that particular order.

In audit exam, only 10 marks are allocated for "pure memory stuff" which is qs 2 which I think is mostly definitions.
Apart from that most of the questions centred around applications : SP, SAP, TOC, the F/S audit (sales, cash), audit report,.....
Maybe Phillip told that to student to buck up their motivation so that they will work harder to score next time.
I have friends & lecturers keep on telling me that I cannot finish quickly, failed some,.... who cares, as long as you believe in yourself.
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Oh.. How was ur interview? ok? Oh ya.. how to complete da 36mths ethical for ACCA? I plan to finish this sitting exam wanna find work first, coz family unaffordable to keep help me pay those fees.. So i plan to half working half studying..
i am from klang.. klang go there very near?
Can I add u as friend in msn? hehe.. coz i have a lot questions wan to ask^^
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post Sep 6 2009, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(vin99 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:16 PM)
Oh.. How was ur interview? ok? Oh ya.. how to complete da 36mths ethical for ACCA? I plan to finish this sitting exam wanna find work first, coz family unaffordable to keep help me pay those fees.. So i plan to half working half studying..
i am from klang.. klang go there very near?
Can I add u as friend in msn? hehe.. coz i have a lot questions wan to ask^^
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Can PM me directly.
Interview is reasonable I think, gone around 1.5 hours with one on one session. I am the only one being interviewed.
IPB is the near the centre of KL so its reacheable by many KL students which is why I was transferred there when TAR is full.
There is some interesting point regarding working - studying :
1) Some firms are tolerant & support staff that work & study together (find those firms that encourages these, mostly large firms)
2) You need to properly manage the balance of working - studying together (quite hard by any means)
3) If you work in a very related or relevant industry, the knowledge & experience gained can be useful for acca studies.
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Anyone attended Joe Fang F7 class on Saturday, Sept 5? Need to know which questions / IAS standards he taught, kindly share. Didn't manage to attend the class. Thx!!
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QUOTE(blazeechee @ Sep 6 2009, 02:40 PM)
Anyone attended Joe Fang F7 class on Saturday, Sept 5? Need to know which questions / IAS standards he taught, kindly share. Didn't manage to attend the class. Thx!!
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I attended^^... he taught Q48, 62,76,77...
FRS111, 112, 117...
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Mirror for Sept 09 SA, SA website is damn slow

http://rapidshare.com/files/277209370/75736.pdf
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I am currently taking P3.. Don't quite like all the theories about the paper..
I am very lost in class.. I am planning to attend Inti's Michael Mainwaring 's IRC.. Any advice???
And also, how u guys study P1 and 3??? Drives me crazy, cos I am not a theory person.. LOL..
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is there any alternatives to the recommended P4 lecturers from the list given on the first page? any info on jeremy french from paac? a friend was saying his pass rate in his class is 100%.

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post Sep 9 2009, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(tinymony @ Sep 8 2009, 09:22 PM)
I am currently taking P3.. Don't quite like all the theories about the paper..
I am very lost in class.. I am planning to attend Inti's Michael Mainwaring 's IRC.. Any advice???
And also, how u guys study P1 and 3??? Drives me crazy, cos I am not a theory person.. LOL..
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To pass any paper in Prof Level, understanding and application is more important, but not memorise by hard.

For P1, understand the CG, Risk Mgmt, Risk Treatment, Int Control, some enthics, try to look at PYQ to understand how examiner apply it to answer. Normally examiner like to come out some special engilish word to make student confuse.

For P3, it is Goreng paper, easier paper in Prof level. First, try to understand and memorise the important biz model (not all but just the important one like SWOT, Portal 5 Force......). In the exam, go to goreng with biz model. That's no fixed answer for P3, examiner answer possible not the best answer, as long as your answer logic, then you will earn marks. One more thing, since your examiner is IT/IS backgorund, then for him is very easy to set IT/IS question or put IT/IS into case study, so you must take note on it.

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Hi, anyone know how to get to kptm exam centre? Can it be reach by public transport like LRT? Thanks for reply smile.gif
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Sep 9 2009, 10:23 AM)
To pass any paper in Prof Level, understanding and application is more important, but not memorise by hard.

For P1, understand the CG, Risk Mgmt, Risk Treatment, Int Control, some enthics, try to look at PYQ to understand how examiner apply it to answer. Normally examiner like to come out some special engilish word to make student confuse.

For P3, it is Goreng paper, easier paper in Prof level. First, try to understand and memorise the important biz model (not all but just the important one like SWOT, Portal 5 Force......). In the exam, go to goreng with biz model. That's no fixed answer for P3, examiner answer possible not the best answer, as long as your answer logic, then you will earn marks. One more thing, since your examiner is IT/IS backgorund, then for him is very easy to set IT/IS question or put IT/IS into case study, so you must take note on it.
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Thank u so much carlosandy for your advise.. appreciate it alot..
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