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GATHERING OF VICTIM OF NVIDIA 8400M, PLEASE STAY AWAY OF NVIDIA 8400M & 8600M
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astria
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 Apr 1 2009, 04:03 PM
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victim here... 8600M GS, juz sent to service center 2 days ago, third time after using for abt 1.5yr...
it doesn't matter where u use the laptop, air con or not.. the main problem with the GPU (G84M and G86M, ie 8400M G/GS/GT, 8600 GS/GT and 8700M GT) is that the solderin material will fail if the card experience rapid change in temperature...
so the only way to prevent the problem from happening, besides not using the laptop, is to keep the card either cold or hot for a long time (read: doesn't matter if u game or overclock or whatever)
ways i ve tried include using Folding@Home GPU client (to keep the card in Performance 3D mode at all times, 7xC to 8xC, depending on the work), disabling Powermizer (so that the clock will stay in only 1 clock speed), using cooler, but that doesn't seem to be a permanent soution...
the only way, as TS suggested, is to to replace the GPU with, perhaps GeForce 9M... but no, the OEMs are not going to do that cuz that will mean lots of extra expenses (especially in times like this)... a recall of the GPU??? Nvidia already said they will not do that, reason being that it will bring down the whole company should they do that...
that's why Nvidia offered to compensate the OEMs for the spoilt GPU that they ve changed (less reason for OEMs to change to a new GPU), and that's y we'll still keep getting G8xM GPU in the future... however, Nvidia has the G84M using the old (which has no problem at all) material instead...
also, i am not sure abt the others, but BenQ S41 users have managed to argue with BenQ to waive the fee for replacing the mobo, which is RM1.5k iirc...
so in the mean time, good luck...
This post has been edited by astria: Apr 1 2009, 04:04 PM
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astria
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Apr 1 2009, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(eclectice @ Apr 1 2009, 06:10 PM) Electromigration on the soldering material... It is quite an issue in any IC design with super-small size... http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3...chips-defectivethe inquirer??? notorious for being a Nvidia basher... dun trust totally... |
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astria
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Apr 1 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(chiam dar siang @ Apr 1 2009, 08:59 PM) how about nvidia geforce go 6150?? nothing to do with this leh... GeForce 6150 is a GeForce 6 integrated graphic... |
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astria
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Apr 1 2009, 11:35 PM
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7150M is considered part of GeForce 8M family as according to Nvidia...
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astria
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Apr 2 2009, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(chiam dar siang @ Apr 2 2009, 07:54 AM) emmm do nvidia 9100g, 9200gs, 9300gs as well as 9600gt have such problem? i heard that nvidia repackage some of the 8k series gpu to be 9k series gpu, is it true? im kinda worry. 9500M GS, 9300M G are renamed 8600M GT and 8400M GS respectively... |
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astria
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Apr 10 2009, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Apr 10 2009, 10:20 PM) just wanna said that actually Nvidia n ATI has same heat issue on lappy... some1 also open the thread stated that ATI heat issue on Studio XPS 16...  my vostro GC on idle is 64c.... but i feel may be is Driver problem that causing heat or might be the fan got dust... and Dell never update the 8400M GS driver for inspiron n vostro user... the last updated is 175.97 for inspiron lappy... another one who mixed the 2 issues... that SXPS is a separate issue... and find ur own driver if Dell dun update it... |
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astria
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May 8 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Ayumi_Hamasaki @ May 8 2009, 11:22 AM) i owned a 1420 8400M GS 128MB, i just have the GPU problem recently ... lucky is still under warranty. if not i gonna cry already. i call dell, they come my house and replace the motherboard for me ... but what is, the warranty is ending soon. GGness. The tempreture for browsing internet and listen to music is 64 - 63. is it too high ? but for my advise is, if u owned this lappy, PLEASE DUN PLAY GAME USING THIS LAPTOP. after change the motherboard the display output on the monitor is not working, dono what is wrong. i mean after pressing Fn+F8. pls read the first few posts to understand how the GPU will fail... doesn't matter if u game or not... |
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astria
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May 10 2009, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(Bad Cyborg @ May 10 2009, 09:54 PM) There's no Apple notebook line with that particular graphic chip. Perhaps you're referring to the 9400M? That is an integrated chip. I notice that 8600GS notebooks that came after Oct last year have a lower breakdown rate, as is the case with my BenQ S41. What is your load temp? my S41 changed the GPU in Jun 08, Dec 08 and Mar 09... fired an email to BenQ once to enquire abt my GPU... and they claim that the GPU installed in Mar 09 is a new revision... let's juz wait and see...  |
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astria
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May 23 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(maxilias @ May 23 2009, 02:19 PM) 9400 got this prob anot ?.:S codename G84M and G86M... use GPU-Z to check wat is urs...  |
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astria
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May 25 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(diamondclow @ May 25 2009, 02:41 PM) my friend S41 using 8600M GS died about 2~3 months ago... install new OS... OK install VGA driver... pooft... KOed already tried using XP 32bit, Vista 32bit & 64bit... but still the same.. still BSOD... using latest driver or not? |
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astria
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Jun 1 2009, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jun 1 2009, 08:17 PM) So what good mGPU is recomended for mid range laptop ? depends on how good ur good is and how much u re willing to pay... GTX 280M is good, G 105M also good... so??? This post has been edited by astria: Jun 1 2009, 09:15 PM |
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astria
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Jun 7 2009, 08:21 PM
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nope, there's no way u can do that...
if u try to argue, they merely say that ur GPU is of the latest revision and should not encounter the same problem again...
unless u have an extreme case (eg a few services in 1 yr), they may consider upgrade the hardware for u...
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astria
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Jun 7 2009, 08:34 PM
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well, my old S41 dun show anything that indicates it has a new part... on GPU-Z it still shows Rev A2 as before...
the release date u mention does not indicate anything as well... merely says 8600M GS is released in May 07...
so wat u can do is either sell it off and get another 1, or pray that it will not spoil again... i chose the first option after servicing 3 times in 1.5 yrs...
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astria
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Jun 7 2009, 09:30 PM
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yes they do... current one is C2D P8200 with 500GB HDD...
over here it's rm3599 with FreeDOS...
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astria
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Jun 7 2009, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(polyamide @ Jun 7 2009, 09:33 PM) this 8400/8600M is dedicated or integ? how bout 8600gt since my bro lappie using it dedicated... 8600M GT and 8700M GT are affected as well... |
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astria
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Jun 8 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(nerdyfred07 @ Jun 8 2009, 09:21 AM) mm much cheaper and bigger hdd than here my bad, should be P8700...  |
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astria
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Jun 8 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(nerdyfred07 @ Jun 8 2009, 10:49 AM) Thats even better! I meant you guys have it at a much cheaper price than here in aus. It was much cheaper than it is now in aus mid last year but I think its a fading model and almost out of stock they raise price. not really fading... currently Nvidia is rebranding it's GeForce 9M series to GeForce 100M instead... spec wise it remains the same for many models... so it's performance is still competitive... |
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astria
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Jun 8 2009, 11:18 AM
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iirc S57 is rm3799 with BD drive but FreeDOS...
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astria
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Jun 24 2009, 04:53 PM
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9300M G is the one that is a rebrand of 8400M GS
9300M GS is not...
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astria
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Jun 26 2009, 05:56 PM
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never heard any problem with the GeForce 9M family, so far...  |
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