9500M GS is a revised 8600M GT...

so they probably did sth in the BIOS to keep the card cool to avoid it from ka-booming like the 8600M GT...

anyway, allrightall, when comes to computer hardware, 90% are made in China, and 5% in Taiwan, and the rest in Malaysia/Mexico/Vietnam/etc

well, i though Dell offer extended warranty like HP???

well, u can still play games on it... juz that u dun know when it will boom on u again...

used to own a laptop with 8600M GS, 3 services in 1.5yr...

but offers no performance at all...

seriously, besides the GeForce 8M and Radeon X700, it really depends on how u take care of ur laptop...

new bios merely make the fan spin earlier...

it's not really a fix to the problem...

go sue Nvidia if u re really interested... it's not Dell's problem, it's not HP's problem, it's not Apple's problem, it's not Sony's problem... it's Nvidia's problem...

i can only say, u re suay... as for ur problem with Dell, they are not obliged to extend the warranty in the first place... anyway, i dun think there's use making noises now, since it's been 1 yr since the issue was first reported... so it's already more or less settled...

it's Nvidia who's denying a problem with the GPU all the while... in the way they put it, Nvidia will go bankrupt if they do admit...

while they did fix the G84M using the older material, the G86M still has the problem...

dun assume when u dunno... i ve used BenQ S41 with 8600M GS before... 3 services in 1.5yr...

if Nvidia refuse to bear the responsibility by admitting that there's a problem, why should the OEMs take it? they need only to pt their fingers at Nvidia and problem settled...

funny thing is, Sony, being an internationally renowned consumer electronic maker, never uttered a word (or at least to my knowledge) regarding the problem for the past 1 yr... all the while it was mainly HP and Dell who were making the noise... so y now? cuz they are prepared to do so in the first place... by announcing now, they are making themselves look good... "we re providing extended warranty so stop whining" afterall, it's basically 1-2yrs more than the normal extended warranty, they dun ve much to lose... Nvidia paid them, they refurbish the parts...

HP and Dell (and Apple as well iirc) were the quickest to respond to the situation, threatening to sue Nvidia (together with Asus) if the problem is not settled... the 2 of them, being the largest OEM in the world, were also the first to announce their warranty extension plans as well, as early as late Aug/early Sep last year, roughly 1-2 mths after the whole thing was first reported...

Apple also had their own plan soon after HP and Dell... and BenQ, though never had announcement, seemed to adopt the "no question asked" policy... as long as it's related to the GPU, no question asked... they even refined their policy earlier this year, offering to swap into S42 hardware (9600M GT) if the laptop was serviced 4 times or more in a year...

most of the major laptop OEMs have announced their own plans almost 1 yr ago... that's y i describe it as more or less settled...

so now the problem is: why didn't u, together with other users of the same model, argued with Dell back then, 1 yr ago, to include ur model in the list as well??? u may not succeed, but at least u would get an explanation from Dell... this issue was so blown up that if u did step into this forum or visit any tech news sites from July to Sep 08, u would surely have known that...

ur problem now is not whether Dell is willing to cover ur model...

it's why didn't YOU argue with Dell 1 yr ago...

for Sony's part, it's only 2 more yrs of warranty, since the first laptop model with GeForce 8M came out with Santa Rosa (ie July 07), they ve been paid, they refurbish the spoilt cards, seriously they ve nothing to lose, and even make themselves look good in terms of PR...

and it only drop a bombshell on u juz becuz it's Sony who made the announcement... there was no hoo-haa at all when BenQ made their announcements early this year, that they are willing to replace the 8600M GS with 9600M GT provided conditions are met... this is wat i call a permanent solution, and yet nobody, at least in this forum, besides BenQ users, made noise abt it...

the OEMs need to offer repair cuz Nvidia refuse to take the responsibility... yes, we all know it's not a permanent solution, but as long as Nvidia dun take up the responsibility, the OEMs and us users only can suck thumbs... the next best is extend warranty...

it's no use whining here now... as i said, the whole issue is settled, and ppl accepted wat the OEMs offer, since last year... and YOU should ve acted 1 yr ago to fight for ur rights, not 1 yr later...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1109389

here...

juz tell them, GPU problem, that's it...

they will replace the mobo, together with the GPU...

then u pry hard that it will not boom... though u can be sure it will... it's juz a matter of time...

it wouldn't help at all...

This post has been edited by astria: Sep 1 2009, 03:55 PM

that depends on how demanding u re and how much money u ve...

they will never admit...

from the way they put it, once they do do, they will go bankrupt immediately...

buy a new laptop...

that's the best way...

better u go Dell... since the card is soldered to the mobo...

well, in that case, get a new one...

since even if u fixed it (one way or another), u won't know when it will ka-boom again...

repair also wast money only, imho...

maybe sell to those 2nd hand shops, try to savage watever u can... then get a cheap one like Asus K40Ab...

wat laptop re u using???

warranty extension is always the most expensive... can be even more than the price u sell it off...

did u buy in Singapore or Malaysia???