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Amps/Pedals The Pedal Board v2, Everything about FX, stomps and MFXs.

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iana93
post Apr 24 2013, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Apr 24 2013, 05:18 PM)
I think Im the one who suggested you that since you stated you were interested in multieffects.

But if your budget allows I will definitely go for single stompboxes: a solid distortion box and maybe a overdrive (tubescreamers) as a boost are good starters.

There are a handful of distortion boxes over in Musicmaster to try out, they sounds good and not that expensive.
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Yeah, you the one biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Apr 24 2013, 07:15 PM)
If ur just starting out, and baru nak berjinak-jinak ngan menatang effects ni, saya sarankan beli multifx sebijik. Tak kisah la murah ka mahal ka, bergantung pada kemampuan.

The reason is this: what the hell is all these effects? what do they do? what do they sound like? how do i use them? do i like them? which ones, and which combinations? To be good in anything, one needs to be curious. And if u are asking urself these types of questions, ur on the right path to become a great guitarist.

See, when u first start out, what u r doing is experimenting. Its very much like a child learning to crawl and stand and speak - its a learning period. So I say, learn. Experiment. Play. Try out different sounds and find out what works for u. Once ur playing matures, u will come to realize what works and what doesnt. At the core of it, benda ni orang tak boleh ajar, tepuk dada tanya sendiri.
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Ok I see. I will explore it myself, but can you suggest me the good one multi fx for beginner like me.

QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 08:21 PM)
Iana93, I was at your stage at one point: Deciding what overdrive to get. It was my first effect pedal and I was very much confused about all the different types of effects, even before which pedal maker to go for. I ended up with a Digitech bad monkey. It was cheap and effective.

At a later stage, I bought a multieffect and explored all the different types of effects. Delays, reverbs, choruses, phasers etc. It was through this multieffect, I learnt what I liked, and what effects I totally did not understand (e.g. phaser). Armed with knowledge of my own likings and style, I sold my bad monkey and got single pedals that each cost more than the multieffect that had em all. I knew what I liked so I was investing in the stuff I knew I would constantly use.

Pleasuresaurus is completely correct in my opinion. Get a multieffect, test it out. it will have overdrives as well as many many other effects. Use it to death and you'll know what you want. then proceed to single pedals if you want to.

Up til today, I still experiment with my multieffect when I'm trying to get a new sound. It's the best choice in my opinion.
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I read all those multi fx reviews in this Musician thread. It gives me lots of choice & I cant make a decision right now blink.gif

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bshen92
post Apr 24 2013, 09:22 PM

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The whole point is to explore. so it doesnt matter which you get. Just pick any that falls under your budget. Dont overthink it, you could be playing guitar instead!

A bonus would be a built in looper (but its not vital) and if you can, grab something that came out recently like the stomplab IIg instead of a Zoom G1 which came out some years back.
iana93
post Apr 24 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 09:22 PM)
The whole point is to explore. so it doesnt matter which you get. Just pick any that falls under your budget. Dont overthink it, you could be playing guitar instead!

A bonus would be a built in looper (but its not vital) and if you can, grab something that came out recently like the stomplab IIg instead of a Zoom G1 which came out some years back.
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What do you mean by built in looper? Can you explain me biggrin.gif
bshen92
post Apr 24 2013, 09:31 PM

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What's your budget? A built in looper would be a function that the Zoom g3 or Digitech RP155 has.


iana93
post Apr 24 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 09:31 PM)
What's your budget? A built in looper would be a function that the Zoom g3 or Digitech RP155 has.


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My budget around rm200-rm300 plus 9v adapter. The lowest the better. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:52 PM

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I'd just get the vox stomplab 2g and do a pleasuresaurus. You cant go wrong. It's not gonna be the last one you will buy so just get it and start playing.
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:59 PM

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Ok, I'll try it when I free. Which store sell this pedal? I heard this pedal was good for beginner. Btw thanks you'all! biggrin.gif
bshen92
post Apr 24 2013, 10:03 PM

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http://www.cmmusic.com.my/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=2

I'd call and ask before going.
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post Apr 24 2013, 10:05 PM

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Sorry, I meant CK Music.

http://www.ckmusic.com.my/index.asp?p=/static/contact.html

Music master may have it. They have a very active LYN presence. you could PM them.
http://www.musicmaster.com.my/contact-us.html
kucinghijau
post Apr 25 2013, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 09:52 PM)
I'd just get the vox stomplab 2g and do a pleasuresaurus. You cant go wrong. It's not gonna be the last one you will buy so just get it and start playing.
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+1

yeah stomplab 2G would be nice for starters within budget (other than G1XN)
and guess what? it's also MIJ thumbup.gif
pleasuresaurus
post Apr 25 2013, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 09:52 PM)
I'd just get the vox stomplab 2g and do a pleasuresaurus.
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Do a me! laugh.gif

Incidentally, iana93, if you have a means of plugging your guitar into your PC w/o much latency, u can actually skip having to get a physical stompbox and....ummm....how to say aaa?....acquire a software based multifx system like Guitar Rig 5. That one is decent enough to record with. If none of what I just said makes sense, nvm, go with the pedal. U might be able to find a bargain digging through the musical instruments section in garage sales.
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post Apr 25 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(bshen92 @ Apr 24 2013, 10:05 PM)
Sorry, I meant CK Music.

http://www.ckmusic.com.my/index.asp?p=/static/contact.html

Music master may have it. They have a very active LYN presence. you could PM them.
http://www.musicmaster.com.my/contact-us.html
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Thanks! biggrin.gif I'll check it when I free

QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 25 2013, 02:09 AM)
+1

yeah stomplab 2G would be nice for starters within budget (other than G1XN)
and guess what? it's also MIJ  thumbup.gif
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MIJ? Why everybody love japanese product. I saw some thread said boss MIJ was awesome rather than taiwan made thumbup.gif

QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Apr 25 2013, 09:31 AM)
Do a me! laugh.gif

Incidentally, iana93, if you have a means of plugging your guitar into your PC w/o much latency, u can actually skip having to get a physical stompbox and....ummm....how to say aaa?....acquire a software based multifx system like Guitar Rig 5. That one is decent enough to record with. If none of what I just said makes sense, nvm, go with the pedal. U might be able to find a bargain digging through the musical instruments section in garage sales.

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Oh yeah? I think for my beginning I start with orange cr20l. Is it ok?

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kucinghijau
post Apr 25 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 25 2013, 09:41 AM)
MIJ? Why everybody love japanese product. I saw some thread said boss MIJ was awesome rather than taiwan made  thumbup.gif
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it's just a personal "mojo" feeling la, not much different if MIJ vs MIT, MIC, MII, MIV as long as the QC was good
same goes to guitar

but it's pretty hard to find cheap MIJ guitar-related products nowadays hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 25 2013, 09:57 AM)
it's just a personal "mojo" feeling la, not much different if MIJ vs MIT, MIC, MII, MIV as long as the QC was good
same goes to guitar

but it's pretty hard to find cheap MIJ guitar-related products nowadays  hmm.gif
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"Mojo" feeling? Awesomee biggrin.gif Maybe MIJ got reputation among LYN musicians kot. hmm.gif
regiuseven
post Apr 25 2013, 04:44 PM

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Guys, any way to control 'amp' gain level by using external expression pedal ? What I mean here is to control gain from amp only, not by gain/dist/OD pedal means. Just heard a song - low gain crunch for heavy verse riff > high gain, ambient-ish chorus/bridge riff and so on.. flows so perfect drool.gif
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post Apr 25 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 25 2013, 04:44 PM)
Guys, any way to control 'amp' gain level by using external expression pedal ? What I mean here is to control gain from amp only, not by gain/dist/OD pedal means. Just heard a song - low gain crunch for heavy verse riff > high gain, ambient-ish chorus/bridge riff and so on.. flows so perfect  drool.gif
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Usually you just set the amp to desired high gain setting, and roll down volume to get the crunchy sound...or you may use volume pedal for this purpose..but some amp wont clean up to crunch nicely after a high gain setting is set. So far worked for me when i use Marshall.. JCM etc.
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QUOTE(kirovdust @ Apr 25 2013, 04:56 PM)
Usually you just set the amp to desired high gain setting, and roll down volume to get the crunchy sound...or you may use volume pedal for this purpose..but some amp wont clean up to crunch nicely after a high gain setting is set. So far worked for me when i use Marshall.. JCM etc.
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For metal, I would just prefer to set the volume all out - its all in the power of the play ! laugh.gif Oh yea maybe the gain 'attenuation' can also be controlled by how we pick our strings. Haha it's okay, better not to have our setup become more complicated by adding/modding things

add: sorry i did not mention - my question would apply to low tunings (B and below). high gain is needed for the lower notes clarity. probably on the song heard they have the best combinations of gears

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post Apr 28 2013, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 25 2013, 05:11 PM)
For metal, I would just prefer to set the volume all out - its all in the power of the play !  laugh.gif  Oh yea maybe the gain 'attenuation' can also be controlled by how we pick our strings. Haha it's okay, better not to have our setup become more complicated by adding/modding things

add: sorry i did not mention - my question would apply to low tunings (B and below). high gain is needed for the lower notes clarity. probably on the song heard they have the best combinations of gears
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Bro, i think for low note clarity, what u really need r speakers that can handle the low level sonics coupled with an amp powerful enough to push the sound. The lower the key, the more air that needs to be pushed to achieve the same audibility levels of higher keys. The only pedal I can think of for this situation is a Sonic Stomp.
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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Apr 28 2013, 01:37 AM)
Bro, i think for low note clarity, what u really need r speakers that can handle the low level sonics coupled with an amp powerful enough to push the sound. The lower the key, the more air that needs to be pushed to achieve the same audibility levels of higher keys. The only pedal I can think of for this situation is a Sonic Stomp.
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Yeps, and some means of EQ as well. On another note, remember AMT is developing the SS equivalent of tubes ? Can it be retrofitted to current tube amps ? If yes and they perform similar to analog tubes then... holy...
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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 29 2013, 08:55 AM)
Yeps, and some means of EQ as well. On another note, remember AMT is developing the SS equivalent of tubes ? Can it be retrofitted to current tube amps ? If yes and they perform similar to analog tubes then... holy...
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I reckon they're meant to be fitted into existing tube amps. There's only one way to find out bout their performance hehehe...

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