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TSblacktrix
post Mar 31 2009, 12:22 PM, updated 15y ago

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Ok, since we are having lots of repeats of questions about effects and pedalboards and multi-effects, it's best to just post them all here.

The best way for a beginner to start with effects is a small Multi-FX unit.
The Zoom G2.1u is recommended, solely because they have a wide variety of effects and amp simulations, have an expression pedal (for Whammy, Volume control or other settings), goes for a reasonable price considering it's features (around Rm 500) and the most important, have a USB connection to record to your PC. Downside is that the sounds are very digital and the casing is prone to breakage. If you don't need the recording an expression pedal, you can get the Zoom G2 for around RM310.

Then if you want to move to the big leagues, the main choices for a Multifx are:

Vox Tonelab SE - Great amp modelling, uses a tube for the poweramp, little lacking on the effects side, can't use OD/DS with a Wah at the same time
Boss GT-8, GT-10 - Great overall effects + modelling, navigation quite hard
POD LiveX3 - Great overall effects + Amp simulation, easy navigation, recording through USB, some mid-gain amp models doesn't translate very well.
Zoom 9.2tt - Twin Tube, dual expression pedals, loads of effects, USB recording, sounds are very digital compared to the other mfxs, very fragile.

Overall, the price ranges from about RM1200 (for the Tonelab) up to around 1.8 for the POD or GT-10.

I haven't include the Digitech ones because I haven't tested them personally, so maybe somebody can comment on this.

Moving on....... if you already played with multi-effects and really KNOW what you want, it's maybe time to move into single pedals.

The few major brands that are easily available in KL are:
BOSS (Still the most popular and affordable ones with a VERY wide range of effects)
Jim Dunlop/MXR (very high quality and very high price)
Digitech (Has everything from low-range prices to high end prices, some still sound very digital)
Electro-Harmonix (Like digitech, has low-range and high end, some of the best sounding ones too)
Danelectro (Dirt cheap, but quality of built & tone might not compare to the more expensive ones)

Of course, there are a million other brands, but these 5 pops into my head first. Again, if you have any more, please comment on these on this thread.

The general rule of your signal chain are:

Volume --> Overdrive pedal --> Distortion Pedal --> Chorus/Delay/Flange --> Noise Gate
Volume --> EQ --> Overdrive pedal --> Distortion Pedal --> Chorus/Delay/Flange --> Noise Gate
Volume --> Overdrive pedal --> EQ --> Distortion Pedal --> Chorus/Delay/Flange --> Noise Gate

Of course, you can mix and match to whatever sounds best in your opinion..... but these are just a general rule of thumb.

Hope that helps and keep more advice, reviews and suggestions coming!!! Right now, if anyone can post up a short FAQ on buying Pedal Boards and/or power supplies would be a great help. Thanks.


Also, all other effects threads will be closed on sight and redirected here unless you can PM me or another Mod a valid reason for having your thread up.

This post has been edited by blacktrix: Mar 31 2009, 12:26 PM
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post Mar 31 2009, 02:55 PM

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might need an extra wah for the tonelab.

i'm looking for one with a true bypass. my gcb-95 sucks tone real bad.
any reccommendation?

and is the vox wah sold at ck music is a true bypass?
the price was shocking me, if it came with a true bypass i sure take it.
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post Mar 31 2009, 02:58 PM

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bass effects leh?
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post Mar 31 2009, 03:07 PM

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TSblacktrix
post Mar 31 2009, 03:27 PM

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Post up a simple FAQ for Bass effects then tongue.gif

Also, checking out the Vox website, I don't see the wah listed as true-bypass, so it's probably not.


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post Mar 31 2009, 03:29 PM

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what wah u using blacktrix?
true bypass i suppose?
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post Mar 31 2009, 03:36 PM

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Nope.
I use a GCB-95 and a Zakk Wylde Wah......... Both not True-Bypass.
Doesn't matter to me. I like my tone tongue.gif

Pics of my board is here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=804278

Go back a page to see the rest of my gear.

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post Mar 31 2009, 03:46 PM

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haha good for you, but for me it hurts to hear my tone sucked down. i almost cried :'(

woahh ur pedal board looks sexy.
tell me ur address i want go steal those. hahaha.
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I'm adding a chorus soon, but the Dunlop is just too bloddy amazing. Right now thinking of the Boss CE-5.
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wow thx...juz about 2 make a "which multifx shuld i get" thread
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:59 PM

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Digitech Bad Monkey is worth mentioning I guess for it's price.
Just maybe 'Again' it's not a true bypass tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:57 PM

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Is Bad Monkey an overdrive or distortion pedal?
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nice, effects play an important part in guitaring anyway, great that someone finally made a thread just for them.
btw a friend of mine has the line 6 floor pod plus, how does that compare to the line 6 POD liveX3? And the others as well.
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i think the Morley Wah pedals are true bypass...correct me if I'm wrong....

i dont know about the POD floor plus but the X3 live has dual tone capability,meaning u can have two different amp tone in one....and it has all the amp models and effects unlike the Pod XT Live where u have to buy the extra amps and effects....also,u can use the X3 live for bass and vocals too...has a DI port meaning u dont need a DI box and u can directly connect to the mixer....check out their website...www.line6.com
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well, ive checked the floor Pod plus online and seen lots of mixed reviews, some giving it 10 outta 10 and others just are kinda rock bottom. might want to skip that one then..

the Vox Tonelab on the other hand.... seems interesting tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IpohBoY @ Mar 31 2009, 06:57 PM)
Is Bad Monkey an overdrive or distortion pedal?
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overdrive, imagin Ibanez tube screamer. but i cant say they are same level or not cause i never tried a TS.
but what i heard that's the case la.

QUOTE(Rikipu @ Mar 31 2009, 07:07 PM)
nice, effects play an important part in guitaring anyway, great that someone finally made a thread just for them.
btw a friend of mine has the line 6 floor pod plus, how does that compare to the line 6 POD liveX3? And the others as well.
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iriz answered your question.


QUOTE(Iriz @ Mar 31 2009, 07:18 PM)
i think the Morley Wah pedals are true bypass...correct me if I'm wrong....

i dont know about the POD floor plus but the X3 live has dual tone capability,meaning u can have two different amp tone in one....and it has all the amp models and effects unlike the Pod XT Live where u have to buy the extra amps and effects....also,u can use the X3 live for bass and vocals too...has a DI port meaning u dont need a DI box and u can directly connect to the mixer....check out their website...www.line6.com
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yeah true, but to go for the morley means need a lot of mooolahhhh..


Added on March 31, 2009, 7:27 pm
QUOTE(Rikipu @ Mar 31 2009, 07:23 PM)
well, ive checked the floor Pod plus online and seen lots of mixed reviews, some giving it 10 outta 10 and others just are kinda rock bottom. might want to skip that one then..

the Vox Tonelab on the other hand.... seems interesting tongue.gif
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hahaa i used Vox Tonelab biggrin.gif

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yeah true, but to go for the morley means need a lot of mooolahhhh..


Added on March 31, 2009, 7:27 pm

hahaa i used Vox Tonelab biggrin.gif
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wat do u mean need a lot of mooolahhhh???
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post Mar 31 2009, 09:06 PM

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Added on March 31, 2009, 9:17 pma little review on the tonelab.
u'll be surprised by it's modelling sound.
u'll love it.
and the distortion it's far from sounding digital.

i got patches from the internet, huge community now no more problem to get Slash, Gary Moore, Brian May sound, even Vai, Petrucci is quite possible (not necessarily means 100% same la, but u can come very close.

and best of all:-
it's very easy to be handled.

contra is: no usb interface, and u cant use wah when u're using other pedal (dist/overdrive)

but i dont care, i just use it for live show and for the wah, just use my cry baby.

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post Mar 31 2009, 10:42 PM

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Check this out:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--DNPGCB95F

Basically the GCB-95 with the Fasel and true-bypass.


Added on March 31, 2009, 10:43 pmOr how about the Morley Power Wah......

http://www.morleypedals.com/dpwov.html

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