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regiuseven
post Apr 22 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 22 2013, 01:25 PM)
Btw, the true bypass pedal will produce diff sounds compare with non true bypass pedal? Haha Im still not get it. Sorry rclxub.gif
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in addition to what posted above, lets put it this way:

guitar > amp : sound A

say we have the same pedal, one with and without TB circuit

guitar > pedal w/out true bypass > amp : sound B

guitar > pedal w/ true bypass > amp : sound C, but very similar or identical to sound A

(sorry im no geek in electronics and its theories, but that's the idea)

and yes, some prefer the pedal without TB (now that's character !)
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post Apr 22 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 22 2013, 01:33 PM)
in addition to what posted above, lets put it this way:

guitar > amp : sound A

say we have the same pedal, one with and without TB circuit

guitar > pedal w/out true bypass > amp : sound B

guitar > pedal w/ true bypass > amp : sound C, but very similar or identical to sound A

(sorry im no geek in electronics and its theories, but that's the idea)

and yes, some prefer the pedal without TB (now that's character !)
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Oh I see. I get it now. So basically w/ true bypass or w/out true bypass it depends on musician ears taste. is it cool.gif

This post has been edited by iana93: Apr 22 2013, 02:07 PM
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post Apr 22 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kucinganaz @ Apr 21 2013, 11:06 PM)
pedal bad monkey tu kena tekan banyak kali baru hidup....
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Sounds like the switch will need replacing. No tech near your area for repairs? Then again, you could consider other overdrives instead of spending on repairs. smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 22 2013, 02:04 PM)
Oh I see. I get it now. So basically w/ true bypass or w/out true bypass it depends on musician ears taste. is it  cool.gif
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technically (from my understanding of audio) all music circuits colour your tone, when you play a guitar it becomes eletricity, runs though various resistances, conductors, etc etc and at the end of it all = tone. a true bypass just tries its best not to colour your signal

now the problem with this is the term "tone", it being very subjective in nature resulted to a lot of arguments and snake oil.

virtual sound says the problem is cable resistance
old vintage styled recordings have no problems

etc

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kucinganaz
post Apr 23 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(currynoodles @ Apr 22 2013, 05:11 PM)
Sounds like the switch will need replacing. No tech near your area for repairs? Then again, you could consider other overdrives instead of spending on repairs. smile.gif
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yeah I will try to replace that switch, I know soldering little bit, if dosnt work I guess I will buy new overdrive.
iana93
post Apr 23 2013, 11:53 PM

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What about Joyo pedals? Is it true bypass? Anybody have try this.
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 23 2013, 11:53 PM)
What about Joyo pedals? Is it true bypass? Anybody have try this.
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it was stamped "true bypass" below the foot switch... true or not depends lah~ hmm.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 24 2013, 08:25 AM)
it was stamped "true bypass" below the foot switch... true or not depends lah~  hmm.gif

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haha ok. have you try this pedal? I love the overdrive sound. Im not in metal sgt la.
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 24 2013, 12:57 PM)
haha ok. have you try this pedal? I love the overdrive sound. Im not in metal sgt la.
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i got 2 joyo pedals - vintage overdrive (pictured) and crunch distortion. not bad lah for cheap pedal (since it's a clone of "famous" pedal)

vintage overdrive - as a standalone overdrive, nothing much... but as a booster for other distortion or amp drive, thumbs up! thumbup.gif
crunch distortion - for me, sounds like standard distortion
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post Apr 24 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 24 2013, 02:21 PM)
i got 2 joyo pedals - vintage overdrive (pictured) and crunch distortion. not bad lah for cheap pedal (since it's a clone of "famous" pedal)

vintage overdrive - as a standalone overdrive, nothing much... but as a booster for other distortion or amp drive, thumbs up!  thumbup.gif
crunch distortion - for me, sounds like standard distortion
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Lets not beat around the bush, this thing is meant to be an Ibanez Tubescreamer ripoff biggrin.gif .

As far accuracy, it attempts to do what a TubeScreamer does - to function as a supplement pedal to boost whatever existing drive (be it pedal or amp) one may have. I personally don't think it approximates the real thing all that well but for the price, it may be worth the compromise.

Overall, I kinda dig Joyo for their price:performance la, buleh tahan.

p/s: wonder if they'd ever wise up and start making Klon ripoffs instead.... brows.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 24 2013, 02:21 PM)
i got 2 joyo pedals - vintage overdrive (pictured) and crunch distortion. not bad lah for cheap pedal (since it's a clone of "famous" pedal)

vintage overdrive - as a standalone overdrive, nothing much... but as a booster for other distortion or amp drive, thumbs up!  thumbup.gif
crunch distortion - for me, sounds like standard distortion
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Wah envy you already. How about overdrive and distortion in one pedal? Is the overdrive give the boost? Like jekyll and hyde and germanium big muff pi biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Apr 24 2013, 03:13 PM)
Overall, I kinda dig Joyo for their price:performance la, buleh tahan.
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yup, since the price was 1/5-1/4 off the "real thing", as long as it works, why not? blush.gif

QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 24 2013, 03:20 PM)
Wah envy you already. How about overdrive and distortion in one pedal? Is the overdrive give the boost? Like jekyll and hyde and germanium big muff pi  biggrin.gif
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don't envy2 lah, it's only cheap pedals, check 'em out at music master
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post Apr 24 2013, 04:14 PM

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So how about another joyo pedals? I am very noobie (noob + newbie) in pedal stuff. Should I go for multi fx or fx seketul-seketul? blink.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 24 2013, 04:14 PM)
So how about another joyo pedals? I am very noobie (noob + newbie) in pedal stuff. Should I go for multi fx or fx seketul-seketul?  blink.gif
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aaa~ yet again question about multi-fx vs stompbox arises biggrin.gif

there're 2 types of noobie:
(1) noobie with thick wallet
(2) noobie with flat wallet (mostly unemployed or student)

if u r (1), no need to worry either stompbox or multi-fx, u'll ended up buying both icon_idea.gif
if u r (2), u must plan ur purchases wisely/carefully hmm.gif

also depends on what type of music u play
if full-out metal = 2 stompboxes (metal distortion & chorus) should be enough already
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 24 2013, 04:52 PM)
aaa~ yet again question about multi-fx vs stompbox arises  biggrin.gif

there're 2 types of noobie:
(1) noobie with thick wallet
(2) noobie with flat wallet (mostly unemployed or student)

if u r (1), no need to worry either stompbox or multi-fx, u'll ended up buying both  icon_idea.gif
if u r (2), u must plan ur purchases wisely/carefully  hmm.gif

also depends on what type of music u play
if full-out metal = 2 stompboxes (metal distortion & chorus) should be enough already
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Haha Im in no 2 for sure. In your opinion what's the best multifx for noobie like me? icon_question.gif The others day someone suggested me vox stomplab. I like to hear another opinion before I get it.
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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 24 2013, 05:00 PM)
Haha Im in no 2 for sure. In your opinion what's the best multifx for noobie like me?  icon_question.gif The others day someone suggested me vox stomplab. I like to hear another opinion before I get it.
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try read the 1st post... it's an old post, but still make sense
u'll get the basic idea about all these craze nod.gif
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QUOTE(iana93 @ Apr 24 2013, 05:00 PM)
Haha Im in no 2 for sure. In your opinion what's the best multifx for noobie like me?  icon_question.gif The others day someone suggested me vox stomplab. I like to hear another opinion before I get it.
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I think Im the one who suggested you that since you stated you were interested in multieffects.

But if your budget allows I will definitely go for single stompboxes: a solid distortion box and maybe a overdrive (tubescreamers) as a boost are good starters.

There are a handful of distortion boxes over in Musicmaster to try out, they sounds good and not that expensive.
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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Apr 24 2013, 05:06 PM)
try read the 1st post... it's an old post, but still make sense
u'll get the basic idea about all these craze  nod.gif
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I still not get it. rclxub.gif But thanks for helping me. Nice shared smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 07:15 PM

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If ur just starting out, and baru nak berjinak-jinak ngan menatang effects ni, saya sarankan beli multifx sebijik. Tak kisah la murah ka mahal ka, bergantung pada kemampuan.

The reason is this: what the hell is all these effects? what do they do? what do they sound like? how do i use them? do i like them? which ones, and which combinations? To be good in anything, one needs to be curious. And if u are asking urself these types of questions, ur on the right path to become a great guitarist.

See, when u first start out, what u r doing is experimenting. Its very much like a child learning to crawl and stand and speak - its a learning period. So I say, learn. Experiment. Play. Try out different sounds and find out what works for u. Once ur playing matures, u will come to realize what works and what doesnt. At the core of it, benda ni orang tak boleh ajar, tepuk dada tanya sendiri.
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:21 PM

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Iana93, I was at your stage at one point: Deciding what overdrive to get. It was my first effect pedal and I was very much confused about all the different types of effects, even before which pedal maker to go for. I ended up with a Digitech bad monkey. It was cheap and effective.

At a later stage, I bought a multieffect and explored all the different types of effects. Delays, reverbs, choruses, phasers etc. It was through this multieffect, I learnt what I liked, and what effects I totally did not understand (e.g. phaser). Armed with knowledge of my own likings and style, I sold my bad monkey and got single pedals that each cost more than the multieffect that had em all. I knew what I liked so I was investing in the stuff I knew I would constantly use.

Pleasuresaurus is completely correct in my opinion. Get a multieffect, test it out. it will have overdrives as well as many many other effects. Use it to death and you'll know what you want. then proceed to single pedals if you want to.

Up til today, I still experiment with my multieffect when I'm trying to get a new sound. It's the best choice in my opinion.

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