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post Apr 29 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(jusco1 @ Apr 29 2011, 12:32 PM)
ok, thanks. will drop by one day to grab one to try.
i check from the net, that they do sell sample.
like 5 diff stick of cigar in a package at cheaper price.
can we get those in KL?
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You may try this outlet http://cigarslounge.com.my/


Added on May 26, 2011, 6:34 pmlooks like everybody has either overdose or stop drinking

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post Jun 5 2011, 04:54 AM

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Join me for cigars @ Starbucks Ampang Point on weekdays at night after 9PM or Starbucks Mont Kiara on Weekends after 11PM. Bored to smoke alone all the time.
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post Jun 6 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadnought @ Jun 5 2011, 04:54 AM)
Join me for cigars @ Starbucks Ampang Point on weekdays at night after 9PM or Starbucks Mont Kiara on Weekends after 11PM. Bored to smoke alone all the time.
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Hi There,

i dont really like to smoke at starbucks as it can be really noisy. My current hang out would be Maduro at TTDI its a nice place to just sit and relax while you enjoy your cigar. we could meet up there in the weekends if you want to enjoy a smoke together. cheers!
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post Jun 6 2011, 11:47 PM

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At night after 10PM at Starbucks Ampang Point, its extremely quiet as the shopping complex has closed. Weekends at Starbucks Mont Kiara after 11PM is extremely quiet too cause the more happening places are at Sri Hartamas and not at Plaza Mont Kiara.
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post Jun 8 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Dreadnought @ Jun 6 2011, 11:47 PM)
At night after 10PM at Starbucks Ampang Point, its extremely quiet as the shopping complex has closed. Weekends at Starbucks Mont Kiara after 11PM is extremely quiet too cause the more happening places are at Sri Hartamas and not at Plaza Mont Kiara.
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Mont Kiara sounds good to me
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post Jun 12 2011, 01:23 PM

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Any Absinthe drinkers here?




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The heat from the flame carmelizes the sugar cube and enhances the flavor. Not a traditional method of preparation, but pretty cool nonetheless.
I found it near impossible to find this stuff in M'sia so it was all shipped in at high cost.


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post Jun 13 2011, 10:34 PM

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^I thought Absinthe is banned in Malaysia ?
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post Jun 14 2011, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Jun 13 2011, 10:34 PM)
^I thought Absinthe is banned in Malaysia ?
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Actually, that's a good question. I have no idea. I am a expat, so what do I know anyways. =)
Absinthe was banned in the U.S. until last year I believe.

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This is more on-topic.

HP12 is one of the best Scotch's I've ever tried. Simply amazing. Does anyone know where I can find good Whisky/Bourbon/Scotch in M'sia? Penang or KL?

Expensive to import, but I have not been able to find it. Maybe I should bring over a container of this stuff and go into business selling. I see most people spending on Martell, Otard and Henn, so I'm not sure how that would go. smile.gif


I wish this thread was a bit more alive, but I'll contribute nonetheless.



(on the back of the box)

ENJOY THE PERFECT GLASS OF HIGHLAND PARK

First, hold your glass to the light to enjoy the clear AMBER glow, then tilt and rotate it to see the beads of whisky appear on the inside of the glass. The smaller they are, the higher the alcohol strength, and the slower they fall, the better the spirit quality.

Next, add a drop of water and take three long sniffs. The first just gets your nose used to the alcohol, but in the second, you'll discover our characteristic honey sweetness, and in the THIRD, fruit - maybe pineapple, apple or pear.

Now, taste the whisky by CHEWING it in your mouth for 4 or 5 seconds, then swallow. The front of your tongue will start to tingle and after a few seconds your mouth will go dry leave a GENTLE SMOKEY FEELING and a flavor that keeps on going.

This post has been edited by CHiNO730: Jun 14 2011, 04:04 PM
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post Jun 15 2011, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(Okini @ Mar 30 2009, 05:04 PM)
im a smoker myself but i hate the taste of cigar i dont know why..anything close to cigar that id touch is cigarillos lol. and i love cognac ! (=
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Cigars are good smile.gif unless you get those cheap 20bucks ones they sell in 7-11
but too expensive to consume on a daily basis.
Im a non smoker but i smoke cigars on special occasions.

i'd drink anything though. but i sure do love a jaagerbomb.


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post Jun 15 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Jun 13 2011, 10:34 PM)
^I thought Absinthe is banned in Malaysia ?
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its not ban in Malaysia you could easily get it at certain F&B outlets


Added on June 15, 2011, 4:42 pm
QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Jun 12 2011, 01:23 PM)
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Any Absinthe drinkers here?
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The heat from the flame carmelizes the sugar cube and enhances the flavor.  Not a traditional method of preparation, but pretty cool nonetheless.
I found it near impossible to find this stuff in M'sia so it was all shipped in at high cost.
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Nice,so did see any green fairy?


Added on June 15, 2011, 4:48 pm
QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Jun 14 2011, 03:56 PM)
Actually, that's a good question.  I have no idea.  I am a expat, so what do I know anyways. =)
Absinthe was banned in the U.S. until last year I believe.

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This is more on-topic.

HP12 is one of the best Scotch's I've ever tried.  Simply amazing.  Does anyone know where I can find good Whisky/Bourbon/Scotch in M'sia?  Penang or KL?

Expensive to import, but I have not been able to find it.  Maybe I should bring over a container of this stuff and go into business selling.  I see most people spending on Martell, Otard and Henn, so I'm not sure how that would go.  smile.gif
I wish this thread was a bit more alive, but I'll contribute nonetheless.
(on the back of the box)

ENJOY THE PERFECT GLASS OF HIGHLAND PARK

First, hold your glass to the light to enjoy the clear AMBER glow, then tilt and rotate it to see the beads of whisky appear on the inside of the glass. The smaller they are, the higher the alcohol strength, and the slower they fall, the better the spirit quality.

Next, add a drop of water and take three long sniffs. The first just gets your nose used to the alcohol, but in the second, you'll discover our characteristic honey sweetness, and in the THIRD, fruit - maybe pineapple, apple or pear.

Now, taste the whisky by CHEWING it in your mouth for 4 or 5 seconds, then swallow. The front of your tongue will start to tingle and after a few seconds your mouth will go dry leave a GENTLE SMOKEY FEELING and a flavor that keeps on going.
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Hi There,

you could get good scotch/single malt from this outlet call single& available at Plaza damas. They do carry a wide range of single malt here.
For bourbon its pretty hard unless you buy it duty free from airports. By the way the basil hayden's looks awesome

This post has been edited by sliver2c: Jun 15 2011, 04:53 PM
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post Jun 16 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(sliver2c @ Jun 15 2011, 04:40 PM)
its not ban in Malaysia you could easily get it at certain F&B outlets


Added on June 15, 2011, 4:42 pm

Nice,so did see any green fairy?


Added on June 15, 2011, 4:48 pm

Hi There,

you could get good scotch/single malt from this outlet call single& available at Plaza damas. They do carry a wide range of single malt here.
For bourbon its pretty hard unless you buy it duty free from airports. By the way the basil hayden's looks awesome
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haha, no green fairy! but maybe i didnt drink enough.

Basil Hayden's looks good. In fact the presentation is much more significant than the taste, which I can only describe as "underwhelming."
But it's still very crisp, despite being mild in flavour and complexity.
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post Jun 16 2011, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Jun 16 2011, 12:32 PM)
haha, no green fairy!  but maybe i didnt drink enough.

Basil Hayden's looks good.  In fact the presentation is much more significant than the taste, which I can only describe as "underwhelming."
But it's still very crisp, despite being mild in flavour and complexity.
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Personally i prefer Knobs creek or bookers , taste more crisp and the smell is much more intense and it goes very well with a good cuban puro
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post Jun 16 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(sliver2c @ Jun 16 2011, 04:30 PM)
Personally i prefer Knobs creek or bookers , taste more crisp and the smell is much more intense and it goes very well with a good cuban puro
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Yes, both are excellent and generally receive high marks in tasting tests. The Knobs is aged 9 years, but has a world of complexity over the BH and the Bookers is phenomenal, although quite "potent" in alcohol. Needs a bit of water to really bring out the little nuances in taste.

But, for entertaining guests that aren't quite "accustomed" to sampling of Bourbon's, this is quite less offensive. Also, I find it a great "Everyday" Bourbon, just as the HP12 is a great everyday Scotch, and for that I appreciate it very much. And yes, sexy looking bottle with a copper strip and metal logo.


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Today I cracked open a bottle of Laphroaig Quarter Cask. Wow, just as the BH was underwhelming, this stuff is overwhelming, but in a very good way.
As I prefer Islay Single Malts to Speyside or Orcadian Scotch's, this was just what I was hoping for.

The scent is Vanilla and Peat. The taste - the usual sherry and vanilla at first note and a ton of super smokey peat on the finish. It's actually quite peppery with a fiery burn and an everlasting finish. I kid you not, you can taste this stuff in your mouth hours after you've had your last glass.

Again, super smokey. Like putting burnt wood in your mouth with some peat moss.

Amazing!

Side by side with the Lagavulin, this is hotter, not quite as smooth, definitely a smokier peat, and a tad overwhelming if you're not a Islay fan.
The Lagavulin is definitely more balanced, but this is quite good in its own right.

I left some Macanudo's at work - this would be great with 'em!

This post has been edited by CHiNO730: Jun 16 2011, 05:25 PM
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post Jun 17 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Jun 16 2011, 04:58 PM)
Yes, both are excellent and generally receive high marks in tasting tests.  The Knobs is aged 9 years, but has a world of complexity over the BH and the Bookers is phenomenal, although quite "potent" in alcohol.  Needs a bit of water to really bring out the little nuances in taste.
 
But, for entertaining guests that aren't quite "accustomed" to sampling of Bourbon's, this is quite less offensive.  Also, I find it a great "Everyday" Bourbon, just as the HP12 is a great everyday Scotch, and for that I appreciate it very much.  And yes, sexy looking bottle with a copper strip and metal logo.
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Today I cracked open a bottle of Laphroaig Quarter Cask.  Wow, just as the BH was underwhelming, this stuff is overwhelming, but in a very good way.
As I prefer Islay Single Malts to Speyside or Orcadian Scotch's, this was just what I was hoping for.

The scent is Vanilla and Peat.  The taste - the usual sherry and vanilla at first note and a ton of super smokey peat on the finish. It's actually quite peppery with a fiery burn and an everlasting finish.  I kid you not, you can taste this stuff in your mouth hours after you've had your last glass.

Again, super smokey.  Like putting burnt wood in your mouth with some peat moss.

Amazing!

Side by side with the Lagavulin, this is hotter, not quite as smooth, definitely a smokier peat, and a tad overwhelming if you're not a Islay fan.
The Lagavulin is definitely more balanced, but this is quite good in its own right.

I left some Macanudo's at work - this would be great with 'em!
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if you like Laphroaig try Oban or Ardberg both are pretty rare to find in Asia but you could always get it at Dubai airport, Try it if you have the chance and let me know how you feel about it. it goes very well with Ashton VSG cigars
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post Jun 17 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(sliver2c @ Jun 17 2011, 11:24 AM)
if you like Laphroaig try Oban or Ardberg both are pretty rare to find in Asia but you could always get it at Dubai airport, Try it if you have the chance and let me know how you feel about it. it goes very well with Ashton VSG cigars
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I've tried the Ardbeg (spelled without the second 'r') 10 yr and its basically too much fire and pepper. The stuff burns going down. Something about it tastes a bit unrefined. I love the peat and smoke, but the fire and burn is a bit too much on the finish.

The Laphroaig Quarter Cask is much more manageable, but it still taking some getting used to.

What I need is something super peaty but not terribly smokey. So far, Lagavulin 16 is the closest, and its much smoother and more balanced on the finish. But the bottles are expensive, and so I'm looking for something similar but cheaper - I am not sure, though, that this exists.

I have not tried the Oban, but heard that it is quite smokey, but not terribly peaty. This is actually the opposite of my taste preference, but I shall try it anyway.

Can you recommend something very peaty but not too smokey, with a smooth but long lasting finish?

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post Jun 20 2011, 11:50 AM

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I've tried the Ardbeg (spelled without the second 'r') 10 yr and its basically too much fire and pepper.  The stuff burns going down.  Something about it tastes a bit unrefined.  I love the peat and smoke, but the fire and burn is a bit too much on the finish.

The Laphroaig Quarter Cask is much more manageable, but it still taking some getting used to.

What I need is something super peaty but not terribly smokey.  So far, Lagavulin 16 is the closest, and its much smoother and more balanced on the finish.  But the bottles are expensive, and so I'm looking for something similar but cheaper - I am not sure, though, that this exists.

I have not tried the Oban, but heard that it is quite smokey, but not terribly peaty.  This is actually the opposite of my taste preference, but I shall try it anyway.

Can you recommend something very peaty but not too smokey, with a smooth but long lasting finish?
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The Ardbeg 10 yrs is pretty hard on the palette but it goes well if you are smoking a matured cigar and with just one cube of ice to get it to release its fine aroma and taste.
I have not try Lagavulin 16, I will the next time round.
I would suggest you try The Balvenie 12 year’s double wood it’s aged in ex-bourbon casks before being finished in sherry casks.
Its a little sweet with a touch of vanilla at the beginning but it finishes vey well. Give it a go


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post Jun 21 2011, 04:27 PM

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sliver2c - seems like it's just me and you here in M'sia with an interest in fine whisky.

I was back in the states and spending a weekend in Las Vegas and enjoying some Scotch when I thought of you.
So here's a view of the City Center.
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Are you Malaysian? How did you come about enjoying whisky and cigars?
I haven't tried the Balvenie 12 year - but like the Laphroig Quarter Cask, the whisky is moved to a second barrel while it matures, probably imparting some huge sherry and oaky qualities.
Sounds good, but does it have the peat?


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Today, I compared a bottle of Laphroaig 10 year with the Quarter Cask.

Despite having a massive, hit by a train buzz, after drinking two singles, and two more double-pours with a tad bit of water, I'm going to log my results while I still can.


This is a comparison test, so the actual palate results will ignore the subtle nuances and go for the strict comparison:

NOSE

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Much more complex than the 10 yr IMO, but the nose altogether is quite different. I smell a world of different things such as butter, caramel, oak brown sugar, and a tad bit of rubber.

Laphroaig 10 Year

Massive peat and smoke. Everything else is pushed down by these two. Amazing. I love peat and smoke, but the complexity is simply not there.


PALATE:

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Starts off very light, but with a good dose of sherry, oak and vanilla which starts "in between" the transition from the palate to the finish.

Laphroaig 10 Year

The texture is amazingly creamier and thicker, but the flavor is not quite as complex. Not as much of the oak and sherry.


FINISH

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Wow. Fiery, and peppery. Sherry, peat and smoke is everlasting.

Laphroaig 10 Year

Much smoother but incredibly salty. Like Islay sea salt sprinked on the back of the tongue. Long lasting peatiness but without as much of the oak flavour as imparted by the Quarter Cask.


DOUBLE POUR W/TEASPOON OF WATER

Both exhibited very similar results. Definitely stronger on the sherry and oak. Both smelling A LOT sweeter, but not like fruit sweet, but like Caramel, Honey, Brown Sugar, Toasted Oats and earth sweet.
Yum!


CONCLUSION:

This one is tough. I don't quite like the saltiness of the 10yr, but I love the substance and texture. The finish is, interestingly enough, much smoother than the throat and stomach warming Quarter Cask.
The Quarter Cask avoids the saltiness, but I'm not sure if I'm just being punched by the fire that goes down. The nose is far more complex as would be expected with the double barrel aging process, and yet I cannot detect any substantial bias in flavour as a result of the quarter cask aging. I do however notice a much more lighter, mellower and perhaps slightly smoother and more complex palate, which is somehow contrasted by that firey finish.

I prefer the Quarter Cask - the flavour is more toward my liking with a heavy dose of the sherry/oak on both the palate and finish.

I think I'll need to go a second round to compare them again.





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post Jun 22 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Jun 21 2011, 04:27 PM)
sliver2c - seems like it's just me and you here in M'sia with an interest in fine whisky.

I was back in the states and spending a weekend in Las Vegas and enjoying some Scotch when I thought of you.
So here's a view of the City Center.
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Are you Malaysian?  How did you come about enjoying whisky and cigars?
I haven't tried the Balvenie 12 year - but like the Laphroig Quarter Cask, the whisky is moved to a second barrel while it matures, probably imparting some huge sherry and oaky qualities.
Sounds good, but does it have the peat?
user posted image

Today, I compared a bottle of  10 year with the Quarter Cask.

Despite having a massive, hit by a train buzz, after drinking two singles, and two more double-pours with a tad bit of water, I'm going to log my results while I still can.
This is a comparison test, so the actual palate results will ignore the subtle nuances and go for the strict comparison:

NOSE

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Much more complex than the 10 yr IMO, but the nose altogether is quite different.  I smell a world of different things such as butter, caramel, oak brown sugar, and a tad bit of rubber.

Laphroaig 10 Year

Massive peat and smoke.  Everything else is pushed down by these two.  Amazing.  I love peat and smoke, but the complexity is simply not there.
PALATE:

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Starts off very light, but with a good dose of sherry, oak and vanilla which starts "in between" the transition from the palate to the finish.

Laphroaig 10 Year

The texture is amazingly creamier and thicker, but the flavor is not quite as complex.  Not as much of the oak and sherry.
FINISH

Laphroaig Quarter Cask

Wow.  Fiery, and peppery.  Sherry, peat and smoke is everlasting.

Laphroaig 10 Year

Much smoother but incredibly salty.  Like Islay sea salt sprinked on the back of the tongue.  Long lasting peatiness but without as much of the oak flavour as imparted by the Quarter Cask.
DOUBLE POUR W/TEASPOON OF WATER

Both exhibited very similar results.  Definitely stronger on the sherry and oak.  Both smelling A LOT sweeter, but not like fruit sweet, but like Caramel, Honey, Brown Sugar, Toasted Oats and earth sweet.
Yum!
CONCLUSION:

This one is tough.  I don't quite like the saltiness of the 10yr, but I love the substance and texture.  The finish is, interestingly enough, much smoother than the throat and stomach warming Quarter Cask.
The Quarter Cask avoids the saltiness, but I'm not sure if I'm just being punched by the fire that goes down.  The nose is far more complex as would be expected with the double barrel aging process, and yet I cannot detect any substantial bias in flavour as a result of the quarter cask aging.  I do however notice a much more lighter, mellower and perhaps slightly smoother and more complex palate, which is somehow contrasted by that firey finish.

I prefer the Quarter Cask - the flavour is more toward my liking with a heavy dose of the sherry/oak on both the palate and finish.

I think I'll need to go a second round to compare them again.
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Seems like just the of us who are getting tipsy almost every night. Thanks for the pic and I am born a Singaporean, travel extensively in my teenage years till late 20's and decided to make malaysia my home for the past 10 years.
I come from families who have parties almost every week and i picked drinking at a very early age and this is not a bad thing as i learn to be responsible towards alcohol and i also drink to enjoy it rather then getting drunk like most people do. As for Cigars its just collateral damage as I go on in life.
I see that you enjoy Laphroaig and it seems that it’s your whisky of choice. Try the Balvenie and compare it to what you are drinking now and do let me know how it suits you.

Its very rare to find someone who really enjoys drinking rather then just drinking for the sake of it, we could meet up for a drink or two if you are keen. Its always good to get to know someone with the same passion. Cheers and enjoy the boobies in vegas.

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Anyone drink Blended Scotch? I'm still a student so don't have the big cash for nice single malts but do has some left over for average blended.
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Anyone drink Blended Scotch? I'm still a student so don't have the big cash for nice single malts but do has some left over for average blended.
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what kind of blended scotch do you drink? chivas, black label or? i use to drink this to get drunk during my Uni days

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