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Food Fine Wine, Whisky & Cigar, How many of you enjoy it

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post Dec 9 2009, 06:34 PM

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very detail description, no wonder you are hook on it. I was overwhelmed by the way you are describing the way to enjoy them.

Thanks for sharing.
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kamal.amir @ Dec 8 2009, 09:23 PM)
smoking a cigar is an art. Unlike puffing on some ciggies, you smoke a cigar to enjoy its taste, appreciate its roll quality, its history of preparation.

i started smoking cigars 2 years back and must say i have enjoyed every cigars that i have tasted. From my first romeo y julieta Belvedere, to my regular favorite monte cristo Regata and i even got a taste of the gurkha black dragon once.

here are some advice when smoking cigars.

Storing it

Do NOT put it in the fridge to "keep it fresh". Your cigar is best kept inside a humidator. If you don't have one or don't plan to get one then buy cigars only when you want to smoke them. keeping them wrongly will make them lose flavor or even worse, get moldy

Cutting it

Remember to only cut the tip of your cigar. The size of the cut should determine the intake and the strength of flavor that your will get (the bigger the cut, the more you get). NEVER bite the tip of your cigar. It does not make you look like Tony Montana or any other Italian mafia for god sakes. You just spent good money so don't do something stupid

Lighting it up

DO NOT lite your cigars with a regular lighter. This will alter the taste and you wont truly enjoy the taste of the cigar. Instead use a wooden match (but wait until the tip is fully burned) or a butane lighter, which will preserve the taste. Remember to "roast" the cigar first, so that you will get a full burned cigar, instead of a partially burned one.

Taste Enhancements

dipping a cigar in whisky will enhance the taste, but make sure ur using good whisky and not some cheap ones. Dip it gently, drip it off, then smoke it

take your time when smoking a cigar. Keep the smoke in your mouth for a while to truly taste it. try different cigars, both cheap 7-11 ones and those expensive cubans. After a while you will know how to tell a difference between a good cigar and a cheap one and voila! you are a cigar connoisseur
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Excellant explanation!!

By the way where did you get the Gurkha's cigar its almost impossible to get it over here
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post Dec 19 2009, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(sliver2c @ Dec 10 2009, 12:25 PM)
Excellant explanation!!

By the way where did you get the Gurkha's cigar its almost impossible to get it over here
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Had it in Swiss when i was studying there dude. The owner of the shop had His Majesty Reserve displayed at the entrance. He said he'll only smoke it if Swiss wins the world cup.

i know of a shop in Sri Hartamas who imports cigars. i guess they can import some for you but it will be bloody expensive though
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post Dec 21 2009, 09:02 AM

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What about those Little Cigars by Swisher, King Edward and such?
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(M@Y @ Dec 21 2009, 09:02 AM)
What about those Little Cigars by Swisher, King Edward and such?
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Swisher has a range of light bodied (light & mild cigars) and flavored ones and are much cheaper than Cubans & Dominicans. Think of them as a budget brand of cigars. They are suitable for "party smokers", and beginners. The flavored ones are actually kinda ok but not something I prefer. King Edward is a brand of Swisher and are a delight coz they are very light (taste) and very cheap (you can get a piece for RM 20-25).

Try them if you never smoked a cigar before and would like to try it. The flavored ones are pretty popular among ladies and wont put a big whole in ur pocket.
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post Dec 21 2009, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ultimat3 @ Nov 22 2009, 03:03 PM)
Nope, you're very wrong in this case. In many cases, vintage Cognacs can be worth muuuuuuuuuuch more than wine. You cannot just base your assumption that because the bottles are not labeled with the year. If you read Chinese newspapers, people are always on the lookout for vintage hard liquor such as the ones Wyndle has.


Added on November 22, 2009, 3:07 pmforgot to also mention that just because wines have the year labelled on, doesnt mean they're all good. You were lucky the ones you bought had value. Vintage wine is even trickier to determine the value. For a wine to go from rm40 to rm280 is nothing spectacular, you have to factor in price inflation over the years as well on top of how old the wine is, and whether it has passed its ideal drinking age. I've got a few bottles of reds that are also valued more than rm5k nowadays  smile.gif .
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from which chinese newspaper ya ?? i also have some vintage cognacs to sell off.
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post Dec 21 2009, 07:50 PM

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i got a XO kept in my house for past 30 yrs
and a Cordon Bleu for 25 yrs
Otard i think got 20 yrs
got one Martini dated 1925

now awaits me to strikes Toto jackpot to open
well ... at least that's the reason my dad wont parang me for drinking his collection


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post Dec 21 2009, 07:57 PM

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*deleted* post at wrong place, sorry.

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post Dec 21 2009, 08:19 PM

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96 wine is the best?
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post Dec 25 2009, 07:18 PM

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i thought i'd share with all of you some of the cigars that i have smoked, which might give you an idea of which cigar you might wanna try.. Lets start!

Brand: Bolivar

Type: Petit Coronas

Review: This was my first ever Bolivar. I haven't heard of them much, and was recommended by the shop owner where I buy my stuff. The build was pretty good, not too packed. Burn was smooth, very combustible. the taste was very, very overpowering. The first half had constant hints of peppery chocolate and moved towards smooth cream on the second half. it went slightly harsh towards the end, but was still enjoyable. Finished it in 40 mins on a slow smoke. Its a very good cigar for regular smokers, but not recommended for first timers. 4.1/5

Brand: Hoyo De Monterrey

Type: Coronations

Review: One of the first few ones i smoked when i was on a tight budget. it was one of the affordable ones, but talk about value for money. The cigar is nice and light. very tropical in a way with its "citrusy" feel in the beginning and got better and better towards the end. a good casual smoking cigar and a nice starter cigar as well coz it wont burn a hole in ur pocket. 4.4/5

Next post: Montecristo Regatta & La Gloria Cubana Sabrosos


Added on December 27, 2009, 10:21 amBrand: Montecristo Open Regata

Type: Corona

Review: As i mentioned before, this new line from Monty has become my favorite cigar. Why you ask? its smooth, light & easy making it a good regular cigar. the taste is also something that you will never get bored of. Be it for a BBQ party, watching a football game with some friends, or just relaxing in the garden, the open Regata suits all occasion. Recommended for both regulars and amateurs. 4.5/5

Brand: La Gloria Cubana Sabrosos

Type: Coronas Grande

Review: Glorias were always a cigar I always wanted to try. The main reason was people tend to be split when grading this cigar. You either love it or loathe it. So when I saw it on the shelf I grabbed it straight away. the wrapping of this cigar was a mess. there were too many faults with it and it came off even before I lighted it up. the taste of the cigar was very tropical & fruity. Its not bad, but not good either. An average cigar that did not impress me at all. 3.5/5

Next post: Romeo Y Julieta Belvedere & Cohiba Siglo II

This post has been edited by kamal.amir: Dec 27 2009, 10:21 AM
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post Dec 28 2009, 11:08 PM

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hey guys

looking for good red wine for less than RM100 for Newyear celebration. Preferably something thats soothing to the throat and not too bitter. Just moderately spicy and nice overall. Something that can be found in supermarkets in KL

Any suggestions? Thanks smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2009, 03:12 AM

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Cold Storage have a wide collection of red and white wine. Price range from RM29.90 and above smile.gif


Added on December 29, 2009, 3:16 am
QUOTE(kamal.amir @ Dec 21 2009, 11:44 AM)
Swisher has a range of light bodied (light & mild cigars) and flavored ones and are much cheaper than Cubans & Dominicans. Think of them as a budget brand of cigars. They are suitable for "party smokers",  and beginners. The flavored ones are actually kinda ok but not something I prefer. King Edward is a brand of Swisher and are a delight coz they are very light (taste) and very cheap (you can get a piece for RM 20-25).

Try them if you never smoked a cigar before and would like to try it. The flavored ones are pretty popular among ladies  and wont put a big whole in ur pocket.
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Thank you for your great advise. I have been liking them recently wink.gif

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post Jan 15 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(kamal.amir @ Dec 19 2009, 07:41 PM)
Had it in Swiss when i was studying there dude. The owner of the shop had His Majesty Reserve displayed at the entrance. He said he'll only smoke it if Swiss wins the world cup.

i know of a shop in Sri Hartamas who imports cigars. i guess they can import some for you but it will be bloody expensive though
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which cigar shop in Hartamas, is it cigars lounge?
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post Jan 16 2010, 12:59 PM

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Hi guys,

I thought I might contribute a bit to this thread..
I have 8 bottles of Chateau Latour 2002, 3 bottles of Penfold Grange (One 1986 and two 2004), and some Penfold 707, Henschke, Rockford etc. I am currently using the Barrique wine chiller 140 bottles.

I am looking for someone to help me a wine cellar 8ft by 10ft, together with the cooling system and wall and ceiling insulation. Any suggestion?
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post Jan 16 2010, 09:48 PM

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Anyone into pink wine? grapes which have their skin peel off? I kinda like their sweet and light tasting.. Didnt see any when I was in Malaysia.

Easy to drink and I think most people would like it
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post Jan 19 2010, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jan 16 2010, 12:59 PM)
Hi guys,

I thought I might contribute a bit to this thread..
I have 8 bottles of Chateau Latour 2002, 3 bottles of Penfold Grange (One 1986 and two 2004), and some Penfold 707, Henschke, Rockford etc. I am currently using the Barrique wine chiller 140 bottles.

I am looking for someone to help me a wine cellar 8ft by 10ft, together with the cooling system and wall and ceiling insulation. Any suggestion?
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Good collection u have there,I know someone in singapore who does wine cellar, it wone be cheap though.PM me for more info


Added on January 19, 2010, 6:05 pm
QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 16 2010, 09:48 PM)
Anyone into pink wine? grapes which have their skin peel off? I kinda like their sweet and light tasting.. Didnt see any when I was in Malaysia.

Easy to drink and I think most people would like it
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what u r referring to is rose wine, u can get it in many wine shops

This post has been edited by sliver2c: Jan 19 2010, 06:05 PM
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You should try Trinidad Robusto Extra or Ryes, you will surely enjoy it.
It is quite difficult to purveyor of the finer things in life here, as it is damn expensive to do so.

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post Jan 21 2010, 09:36 PM

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Guys,

Just wondering how you guys store your cigars? I've got no humidor at home and recently while purchasing some at the airport, was told by the salesman, that can keep the cigars in a zip lock with some water sprinkled in it. Any comments?

Bought Montecristo no4, no 5 and Don Antonio.
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Hi Sliver2c

Thanks for the reply. Actually I reside in Penang. I think for someone to come from Singapore to make the wine cellar is definitely going to be expensive. I will probably bring in the cooling system and ask the aircon guy to do the ducting etc. Wine fridge is definitely more cost effective, but for aesthetic reason, I would construct a wine cellar with glass windows. Where do you normally buy your wines? I got mine mainly from overseas travel. In Oz, you can claim WET tax and GST if you can bring your wine out, but the wines had to be kept in your check-in luggage.

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post Jan 25 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:11 PM)
Hi Sliver2c

Thanks for the reply. Actually I reside in Penang. I think for someone to come from Singapore to make the wine cellar is definitely going to be expensive. I will probably bring in the cooling system and ask the aircon guy to do the ducting etc. Wine fridge is definitely more cost effective, but for aesthetic reason, I would construct a wine cellar with glass windows. Where do you normally buy your wines? I got mine mainly from overseas travel. In Oz, you can claim WET tax and GST if you can bring your wine out, but the wines had to be kept in your check-in luggage.
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Hi there,
I agree building a cellar is not cheap especially if its done by a professional,A wine cellar is more then a cool room to store wine, its a control environment, where every single detail is taken in consideration. There a lot of factor to consider before building a cellar such as heat, vibration and proper temprature control. A cooling system might not give you the best cellaring environment but then again it depends how fragile your collection are.
I ussually by my wine en premiere from a dealer in KL and Hong Kong. enjoy your wine and do post some pics of your cellar once its done


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QUOTE(miuk @ Jan 21 2010, 09:36 PM)
Guys,

Just wondering how you guys store your cigars? I've got no humidor at home and recently while purchasing some at the airport, was told by the salesman, that can keep the cigars in a zip lock with some water sprinkled in it. Any comments?

Bought Montecristo no4, no 5 and Don Antonio.
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All you need to store your cigar is an Air tight container and some old cigar boxes (make sure its smaller then the air tight container) which u can purchase from havana club at RM 10 each, Sponge(the kind that the florist use to hold flowers in place) and some distill water.

cut the sponge to your palm size and leave a thickness of 2 inches, soak it in the distill water and take it out and make sure its not dripping wet then place it in the cigar box, place your cigar in the cigar box, then place the whole box in an air tight container and there u have your home made humidor and it will store your cigar at a nice humidity level. Hope it helps, thats how i used to store my cigar when I was a student



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