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albnok
post Mar 31 2009, 03:22 PM

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ryzan76, best for me still the Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8, weighing under 1 KG. All these F2.8 telephoto zoom lenses go in the 1.4-1.5 KG range.

chiggy: The Tamron let more shots through especially at the start of the sequence (I originally counted 18 but discarded the first 4 because I started shooting earlier (based on thisiskj's head magnification in pictures)).

I would say that the Tamron is pretty accurate on the A900, much more than online reports say.

AF noise, not noticeable and not particularly different from any other screw drive lens on the Alpha. In short, it was neither loud nor different enough to note. It did not sound horribly loud or geary like the Cosina 100mm F3.5 Macro "Plastic Fantastic".

Again I must stress that the AF is driven by the body and not by a Transformer-like-sounding Tamron micro-motor/buzzer as it is on Canon/Nikon variants. That's probably why AF sounds alright.

The Sigma may appear to focus faster but this might be an illusion due to its silence. In the end it failed to cope with AF-C tracking, hesitating a lot. In comparison the Tamron was very positive and confident to fire.

The Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO has physical 'feedback' when you focus - you can feel it shifting the heavy focus elements. This by all means was the loudest lens.

I would also say that lenses with less spherical aberration HELP with getting positive focus confirmation - that might be why the Sigma was not confident to fire even at the start of the sequence. You will discover that your lenses find it hard to focus when you put a +4 closeup filter on - same principle.

Now this would be a different case if the Tamron let in a lot of shots and was highly inaccurate. But here it was a good performer, and pretty sharp at all lengths!

nic_chm himself says that the Sony is no speed demon unless the 3 meter focus limiter is activated. Of course, only the Sony has a 3 meter focus limiter...

All the people who came to Studio Zaloon (eviz, thisiskj, nic_chm, kysham) had A700s and I didn't want to ask even more of a favor to try it on an A350.
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so, who is going to get a tammy 70-200?

oh, did sham comment anything compared to his siggy?
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post Mar 31 2009, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Mar 31 2009, 03:22 PM)
ryzan76, best for me still the Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8, weighing under 1 KG. All these F2.8 telephoto zoom lenses go in the 1.4-1.5 KG range.

chiggy: The Tamron let more shots through especially at the start of the sequence (I originally counted 18 but discarded the first 4 because I started shooting earlier (based on thisiskj's head magnification in pictures)).

I would say that the Tamron is pretty accurate on the A900, much more than online reports say.

AF noise, not noticeable and not particularly different from any other screw drive lens on the Alpha. In short, it was neither loud nor different enough to note. It did not sound horribly loud or geary like the Cosina 100mm F3.5 Macro "Plastic Fantastic".

Again I must stress that the AF is driven by the body and not by a Transformer-like-sounding Tamron micro-motor/buzzer as it is on Canon/Nikon variants. That's probably why AF sounds alright.

The Sigma may appear to focus faster but this might be an illusion due to its silence. In the end it failed to cope with AF-C tracking, hesitating a lot. In comparison the Tamron was very positive and confident to fire.

The Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO has physical 'feedback' when you focus - you can feel it shifting the heavy focus elements. This by all means was the loudest lens.

I would also say that lenses with less spherical aberration HELP with getting positive focus confirmation - that might be why the Sigma was not confident to fire even at the start of the sequence. You will discover that your lenses find it hard to focus when you put a +4 closeup filter on - same principle.

Now this would be a different case if the Tamron let in a lot of shots and was highly inaccurate. But here it was a good performer, and pretty sharp at all lengths!

nic_chm himself says that the Sony is no speed demon unless the 3 meter focus limiter is activated. Of course, only the Sony has a 3 meter focus limiter...

All the people who came to Studio Zaloon (eviz, thisiskj, nic_chm, kysham) had A700s and I didn't want to ask even more of a favor to try it on an A350.
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Added on March 31, 2009, 4:35 pmso boring and get flu....
shoot this at home................



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post Mar 31 2009, 05:14 PM

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Last week, Saturday 28 March 2009 at around 6.00pm after heavy rain biggrin.gif

Sony Alpha 350 + Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 II EX DG APO Macro HSM + HVL-F42AM

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post Mar 31 2009, 05:21 PM

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guys, the girl at the last scene new kfc tv-ad is model wit big smile at the convention izzit?
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:24 PM

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Chiggy,
Just curious, what is the maximum distance that F42 can reach? (i tot it is 105mm and you are using 70~200).

what settings do you use for ur flash?and how did u use it?

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Mar 31 2009, 05:24 PM)
Chiggy,
Just curious, what is the maximum distance that F42 can reach? (i tot it is 105mm and you are using 70~200).

what settings do you use for ur flash?and how did u use it?

thanks
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that day, if I remember correctly, I was on Aperture Priority (mostly F3.5, unless for almost full body shot at F2.8) therefore, power is at Auto (power can only be at manual when you use manual mode) and the range I put 105mm. At the same time, I was also using a stofen. All the photos are shot having the flash pointed upwards, including in portrait mode.


sorry, exif was somewhat removed using portrait professional because the original photos has too harsh light on their face

updated with EXIF

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this my latest project....


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cnc kawan kawan.......

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post Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM

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chiggy: I do hope somebody gets it and we can have a comprehensive comparison. kysham ran in puddles of rain with me from Pudu LRT yesterday so I'm not sure if he's well; tried calling he didn't pick up.

Usually you can only use Manual Power with camera in M mode but you can change it to allow Manual Power in PASM modes. I'm not sure how to enable this on the F42 as I never had the manual (on the F58, hold down the Fn button for 3 seconds and cycle through the custom functions.)

SpOOkY: The F42 guide number is 42 meters at F1.0 ISO100 105mm zoom.

So, at F2.8, the range is 42 meters / 2.8 = 15 meters.

Supposing you shot at ISO400, you double the range to 30 meters, and at ISO1600, you quadruple the range to 60 meters. This is of course at full 1/1 power lah... at 1/32 power it will only reach 60 meters * 1/32 = 1.875 meters.

ryzan76, shoot from a lower angle so it looks like a real car.

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This is from my old point-and-shoot. Photoshopped background in.
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:45 PM

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Thanks albert & chiggy!
to make manual available for F42, hold HSS for 3 seconds then press power button to 1/2 to enable manual function. (if i remember correctly:))

ryzan76, since the car is black, try to shoot from the front (say bonnet) and leave the side underexpose...can what i mean? i realized it will be nice to leave some parts underexposed when shooting cars...smile.gif..only expose the middle of the pic..such as for pic#2, expose only the rear-left lamp to the front lamp....the rest photoshop it to a bit darker..i think it may look nice..just my 2 cents:)

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post Mar 31 2009, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM)

ryzan76, shoot from a lower angle so it looks like a real car.

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This is from my old point-and-shoot. Photoshopped background in.
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thanks master albert....
so nice and look real u car....

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Mar 31 2009, 05:45 PM)
Thanks albert & chiggy!
to make manual available for F42, hold HSS for 3 seconds then press power button to 1/2 to enable manual function. (if i remember correctly:))

ryzan76, since the car is black, try to shoot from the front (say bonnet) and leave the side underexpose...can what i mean? i realized it will be nice to leave some parts underexposed when shooting cars...smile.gif..only expose the middle of the pic..such as for pic#2, expose only the rear-left lamp to the front lamp....the rest photoshop it to a bit darker..i think it may look nice..just my 2 cents:)
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take it as a note ...
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 31 2009, 05:31 PM)
this my latest project....
cnc kawan kawan.......
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ryzan try snap that car wit ur UWA.. been wondering how the output will come.. brows.gif

the 1st thing come in my mind.. the perspective view will be more nice i thing..
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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Mar 31 2009, 05:49 PM)
ryzan try snap that car wit ur UWA.. been wondering how the output will come.. brows.gif

the 1st thing come in my mind.. the perspective view will be more nice i thing..
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u want UWAWAWA...... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
2moro i do it k...
now already baring2....
flu....... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Mar 31 2009, 05:21 PM)
guys, the girl at the last scene new kfc tv-ad is model wit big smile at the convention izzit?
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got you tube?
or screen capture? biggrin.gif

I rarely watch TV nowadays tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(chiggy @ Mar 31 2009, 05:54 PM)
got you tube?
or screen capture? biggrin.gif

I rarely watch TV nowadays tongue.gif
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Busy finding models ka?
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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Mar 31 2009, 05:51 PM)
u want UWAWAWA...... drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
2moro i do it k...
now already baring2....
flu....... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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ok bro i wait wit penuh kesabaran biggrin.gif.. u go to rest2 1st.. hehe

QUOTE(chiggy @ Mar 31 2009, 05:54 PM)
got you tube?
or screen capture? biggrin.gif

I rarely watch TV nowadays tongue.gif
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cant find at youtube yet bro.. the ad is like

a man eat that chicken, the he feel veri ecited like terjun from waterfall, then feel like heros who save a girl from house burn, the he woke up from his daydreaming watch the girl (this girl i mean..) beside him eat same chicken like him.. biggrin.gif
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Hey guys, totally alpha unrelated question. Mostly you guys work as?
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Mar 31 2009, 06:35 PM)
Hey guys, totally alpha unrelated question. Mostly you guys work as?
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Im working doing sales for Garmin biggrin.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:48 PM

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Permanently? How old are you guys also. Hehe.
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Mar 31 2009, 06:48 PM)
Permanently? How old are you guys also. Hehe.
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Nah. Just funding for my camera stuffs.
Gonna start college next Tuesday.
Im 18.

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