tat88, depend on your liking actually. sg02 body is made of secc with from abs panel while lian li 351 is full alu. also bear in mind v351 is a bit bigger than sg02 as well.

here's my SFF setup, pls comment.....

AMD Athlon X2 7750 BE
MSI K9A2GM-FIH (Nvidia 8200 chipset)
2x1GB KVR 800Mhz
CM Extreme Power 460w
XQBOX

Personal opinion of the XQBOX;
Build quality;
Edges are not aligned. Gaps will be visible despite screwing it tight. Resonates when fans at high speed. *update: the resonating sound was emitted from the stock hsf, nothing to do with the casing.

Cable management;
Cant comment, im a n00b in CM

Airflow;
Interesting finding here, read on....
proc is reading 50c on idle in a hot afternoon, no aircond, with AS5 paste applied. why so hot?
Airflow sucks? no, temp didnt drop when i open up the casing.
AS5 not applied correctly? doubt it, heat sink is hot when touched. will reapply paste to reconfirm.
*update: reapplied AS5. no drop in temperature.
What else can i test?

This post has been edited by VT-Ten: May 2 2009, 02:54 PM


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sg 02 will be smaller in size, but the v351 is more spacious and provide better cooling in the cpu area

vt ten, maybe using better hsf would yield better result. is that stock hsf?

from the looks of it, ya is the amd stock fan



i doube reapply the paste will deo any effect, changing the cooler is ur best chance.

btw, it is normal for the processor to be hotter inside a sff, just make sure it is not overheatted is ok already.

This post has been edited by tjay_tj: May 2 2009, 02:42 PM

thanks for the comments guys.
yes its stock hsf. what are the aftermarket coolers that can fit in to this sff?

and i found out that the resonating sound wasnt from the casing, it was the stock hsf. apparently the fan wasnt secured tightly to the heatsink. tried slotting papers in between but still coudnt work.

yea, reapplying paste doesnt bring down the temp. guess changing hsf would be the solution. again, im concerned about the physical clearance issue. your comments guys.....

This post has been edited by VT-Ten: May 2 2009, 02:55 PM

hei guys wanna ask something.. tis Compaq CQ2035D Desktop PC use external 65watt psu, so wat is da maximum HDD capacity can it use without overburden the PSU

mobo link + pict http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documen...product=3835707

spec http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documen...product=3835707

This post has been edited by edmunz: May 2 2009, 02:58 PM

edmunz most hdd consume abt the same wattage that is less then 10w. if you want low wattage can try 1Tb Wd cavier green

thanks Eng_Tat & tjay_tj opinions.

personally i do prefer sg02f more than v351, but v351 have better features than sg02f

that's why it makes me very hard to choose between this two casing

65w??
lol... super duper energy saving.

ya like eng_tat say... hdd consume very little energy, u can plug in at least 20 hdd if ur psu is 650w real power.... 5 hdd should be no problem for whatever psu.
if u really scared. go for the 2.5" hdd... that one consume even less power.



if u not going for super high end rig, the sg02 will be good enuf...
basicly it is down to the design u like.

I am not sure how much does the sugo sg02 cost, the v351 is rm400+-. i bought the case on impulse and some fren here sycho me
so far is only 20% built coz lack of parts like gc, hsf, and hdd still. Not to racun , i think the built quality is very good (this is my second lianli case) inside is spacious as well for sff. The ventilation shud be good as well judging by the fan quantity inside. 2x 120mm intake and 80mmx1 out + psu/1 out lor. draw back is the case is not so small as i like to be , so i will be hunting Pc37 Muse soon

yaya
the v351 is better quality and all aluminium

the sg02f is steel body... and cost like rm350++... the full aluminium sg02 is like rm500.

and ya, the v351 is actually quite big consider it is a matx mechine.


eng_tat~ wa muse, fast fast order one

thanks again to Eng_Tat & tjay_tj.

sg02f is about rm300+-.

I think mostly I will choose sg02f, because the size are smaller.

And I plan to install :

Althon X2 7750/7850
Gigabyte MA78GM US2H
2GB kingston DDR2 800mhz

and other components is from my old rigs.

Any opinion for the spec?

aiyo rm350+++ tat is alot for steel case ler. like that better get v351 ler. need to wait for one of the brother next order first, but if too expensive i diy my self with plywood lor

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Added on May 2, 2009, 5:00 pmwhat is the budget you have for this??? do you consider intel as well or purely amd?
if intel E5200(240)or E7400(400)or E8400(600) + Gigabyte G31 (180)or Intel DQ45CB (350) (I might get this to replace my DG35EC(270)) + VR 2GBx2 (150)

If AMD get P2 X3 the least....me not so familiear with AMD (hardly built this AMD based procs)

This post has been edited by Eng_Tat: May 2 2009, 05:00 PM

SG01 SG01 ....spam~~~ hahaha

SG01 days is over d (Spam )

Eng_Tat,

erm..i think i still prefer amd

my budget are < RM800

your favourite brand....thermaltake


the TT Orb can fit...forgot which one though...theres so many of them lol

SG01 still one of the nice SFF case out there leh
not yet out date hehe

AMD really dunno how to help AMD7750/7850BE (225/255) OR AMD P2 X3 710(440) but mobo i got no idea about pricing i think at least get 780g with 700sb onwards. Vr Ram is about 75+++

Do consider E7400+G31+4gb Memory for rm720+- or E5200+G31+2GB+ATI4770= rm850+-