
Small Form Factor (SFF) Rev.3
Small Form Factor (SFF) Rev.3
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Mar 23 2009, 09:53 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
My SFF setup... for HTPC
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Mar 25 2009, 01:34 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
omara....the cables still messy ah?? or u did the cable management already?
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Mar 29 2009, 01:16 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
closest would be Sim Lim Square Singapore.
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Mar 31 2009, 02:44 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
he got it from uglyvamps store in Sim Lim Square
UVnium |
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Mar 31 2009, 09:11 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
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Apr 9 2009, 09:27 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Apr 8 2009, 09:21 PM) After reading this thread since V2, I think I want to build a SFF rig but with <RM1k budget, will only convert my current rig. since ur a gigabyte fan....Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2LMy planning: Processor : E8400 (current) HSF : Arctic Cooler Alpine 7 (current, probably change) Mobo : ? (no idea) RM500 RAM : 2 X 2Gb DDR800 (current) Harddsik : 500Gb (current) GC : HD2600XT (Plan to change) PSU : CM Extreme Power 500W (current) Casing : XqBox (or any sff casing below RM300) So only need to buy casing and mobo and probably change GC. This rig most probably for -24/7 use (bittorrent) -some video encoding (mp4, divx etc) -desktop publishing (photoshop and illustrator) and -some 3d rendering, some games but no OC. My main concern is power consumption and also the heat. My HD2600XT with its stock fan generate too much heat. For idle, the temp already 60 and can reach 8+ when fully loaded. Last time I try to play DMC but my pc restart because of over heating. But after I changed to 3rd party cooler, the temp become normal with 50 idle and 6+ when loaded. So, which current GC will most suitable for sff? Is there any gc that don't need any fan so the rig will quieter? E8400+GA EP45-DS3 for me is the best combo. With its Energy Saver technology, Gigabyte really reduce my bill if compare with my previous mobo. So, any gigabyte mobo recommended for me? more than enough for ur usage and only costs RM180. for the GC....just make sure u have enough airflow for it.... casing....up to u....the SG03 and the V350 would be a good place to start.... n i can confirm that the alpine will NOT fit into an unmodded microfly/xqbox QUOTE(kiLLua the babap @ Apr 9 2009, 09:11 PM) usually....SFF = m-ATXand for his usage...the DFI is overkill....just coz he has that much money doesnt mean he should spend all of it. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Apr 9 2009, 09:28 PM |
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Apr 10 2009, 12:21 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
i used to have the Alpine64 for my previous SFF s754 rig...and no it didnt fit...the support beam of the my microfly (aka xqbox) wouldnt allow it.
the only HSF with good clearance so far with the microfly is the thermaltake orb series (some only i think). and some of the zalman flower hsf. even with those hsf its a tight fit. but still able to slide the mobo tray in and out without removing the hsf... right now i have my stock Q6600 hsf cooling my E5200...since u dont OC... why not just use the stock hsf? artic cooling themselves admit that the alpine series isnt as good as stock hsf...its main purpose was for silence. id recommend using the stock hsf first...and if gets too loud...then think about other coolers as for GC... ur budget for mobo is 500...now u aiming for RM180 mobo..so u save RM320. sell ur 2600XT and add the 320 into the GC budget. perhaps aim for HD4850? |
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Apr 10 2009, 01:40 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
if u come to KL for PC Fair... id strongly recommend going over to LYP and stop by sri computers...they sell some cheapo 775 HSFs... looks exactly like stock ones... cant remember the price.. but then u can take the pins from there.
but honestly...i say might as well get the orb cooler straight or the zalman flower cooler....more worth it... zalman i think sri comp might still have... the orb....can buy the ruby orb from ngbh HERE and check out this post i found regarding the ruby orb+xqbox on an AMD setup. he says the cooler is really quiet too... SOURCE QUOTE(pcphobic @ May 26 2008, 04:18 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « hes using one of the orbs in the xqbox on an intel setup...but i cant remember where he bought the cooler and which version... SOURCE QUOTE(Mayor @ Aug 6 2008, 01:38 PM) |
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Apr 13 2009, 12:33 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Apr 10 2009, 08:45 PM) That picture not within casing. I want to see the HSF in action. But the HSF is expensive, so nvm. PCI Firewire cards are available mah...can still use those..Just dug out my store to search my old HSF. Luckily, one of my HSF have good pin, can be reuse with my e8400 stock HSF. Added on April 12, 2009, 12:14 amI just realize that both G31M-S2L abd P5KPL-AM doesn't have 1394 support. This funtion also important to me becoz I sometime need to convert video from video camera. So need to find other solution. May be need to forget about discreet GC and use built in graphic video. |
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Apr 17 2009, 09:21 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
70.2mm WITHOUT fan???
haiz... even without the fan oso cannot fit into the microfly |
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Apr 19 2009, 11:59 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
QUOTE(jvjh666 @ Apr 19 2009, 07:37 PM) wow....zalman full copper fan....delicious~ pictar pictar!!! i demand pictars!!ehh...got cut by the cd rom rack of Xqbox while trying to route the cables.... i was quite picky to show any cables so i tried hard 2 hide any possible cables in view....in the end c blood lor and the power button cables r abit too short to reach to mobo...so take note(or izzit mine defect saja)? get cm led fans lar....quiet and move OK cfm...according to sum review i read last time... the power button cables on my microfly is ok only...not short...dunno about the xqbox version though |
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Apr 20 2009, 12:09 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
wat thermal paste are u using and how much of it did u use?
me im running on E5200 + stock Q6600 HSF + stock thermal pads... i also have an 80mm front intake @5v...meaning it runs slower than normal...its also filtered...so even lesser air coming in. exhaust is vizo starlet running below max speed due to mobo and also my PSUs 12cm fan... forgot exact temps but they are nice and cool and its damn quiet...sometimes have to physically look at the internals or feel the air at the rear exhaust to even know if its on or not |
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Apr 20 2009, 03:48 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
time for an i7 SFF rig man....hahahhahahaa
would LOVE to make one of those....i7 + SLI in SFF sadly parts are still so expensive and i need to save money to buy a car AND getting married next year.... yes yes this old fart is getting married next year This post has been edited by mADmAN: Apr 20 2009, 03:48 PM |
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Apr 20 2009, 04:06 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
me getting married october.... this june getting engaged. |
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Apr 20 2009, 07:32 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Apr 20 2009, 04:08 PM) I use Cooler Master Premium Thermal Paste ptk-002. At first, I only apply small amount but when I saw the temp is high, I add more (all inside the tube). u added the entire tube??? clean up and replace the thermal paste man... too much aint good for temps and also ur mobo pins and proc... for ur rig... i recommend 2 things... 1/ remove the duct tape before it gets worse....seriously. sleeve it properly or just use cable ties will do... or can also do like what i did HERE for the front panel cables... 2/ actively cool ur HDDs with a fan... - put 1 HDD in the floppy bay and mount a fan to cool it... - the other HDD leave it in the HDD bay and buy a HDD cooler for it (the kind u mount below the HDD) u can see how i setup my microfly and the HDD on THIS page. what i did was mount the HDD On 5.25" bay and tie a fan to the floppy bay for cooling. but i know u need ur 5.25" bay to hide ur cables oso...hence i asked u to put ur HDD in the floppy bay. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Apr 20 2009, 07:41 PM |
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Apr 20 2009, 07:42 PM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
edited my post to give u some ideas as to what to do with ur rig...
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Apr 21 2009, 09:33 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
QUOTE(jvjh666 @ Apr 21 2009, 04:07 AM) @madman thanks man congrats on ur marriage bro....hope u love ur wife more than ur sff....jkjk but dun forget to luv ur sff after marriage as well QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Apr 20 2009, 10:58 PM) I noticed that your heat sink is taller than mine. Do you think this will make any difference? My final solution is only to buy good hsf before buying new gc. If not, the temp surely can reach 6+c. QUOTE(qwerty79 @ Apr 21 2009, 08:09 AM) I realized that the stock HSF have small round contact surface with the processor. But most stock hsf don't have my problem so I think, it must be possible the low RPM. At 70-80c, the speed still running at only at below 1000 rpm. I don't what is the maximum speed for stock fan but I will try searching in bios to increase the speed. If all fails, my final solution is to get thermaltake blue orb. not sure if the taller HSF makes a difference....i believe it would due to more surface area... the hsf im using is stock q6600 which has a copper base..most intel hsf has the round base... thats the hs design... anyway...heres the temps of my htpc (big pix). using 3 different softwares.....everest, realtemp, speedfan (not setup) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « also...looks like ur PCI slots are empty.. perhaps tie another fan there to help exhaust hot air? or can get a PCI blower, place it in the first PCI slot (nearest to CPU) and run @5 or 7v. this will help exhaust hot air from the CPU hsf so that it wont recycle the hot air. might also provide some airflow for your NB heatsink at the same time... All IT has a cheap 1 for RM10. loud at 12v but moves alot of air....reduced my 8800GTS' temps by 10c. havent tested mine at lower voltages yet...should be ok at 7v... |
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Apr 21 2009, 10:11 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
i honestly cant tell u anything about the 1080p playback of the G45... coz everytime i try to set that DXVA thingy in MPC-HC...it doesnt seem to work...
besides...i couldnt be bothered to anymore....ive always been using BS Player since before screamyx came out...for some reason it decodes 1080p better than MPC-HC. even at stock settings CPU usage is siginificantly lower compared to MPC-HC. i did a comparison and posted it in the htpc thread... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 21 2009, 11:07 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
dunno....didnt set anything at all...
rig is completely stock. softwares are completely stock...everything is completely stock. |
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Apr 21 2009, 11:53 AM
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All Stars
10,530 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya & Mid Valley |
really dont recommend stacking up the HDDs together...with no active cooling....they will end up heating each other....
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