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TSryan man
post Mar 23 2009, 01:13 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hey sifu sifu here... Gotta ask some question about this Honda Civic Hybrid.
Is this car good in terms of power, maintainance, and reliability?
From wat i heard, the maintainance cost of Hybrid car aint cheap compared to normal car..
Gotta get 1 Civic soon, and i'm considering between the 2.0iV-tec and the Hybrid version..
Will the Hybrid version car underpowered compared to 2.0 iv-tec and how about the maintainance cost for the Hybrid's??? icon_question.gif

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post Mar 23 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(ryan man @ Mar 23 2009, 01:13 PM)
Hey sifu sifu here... Gotta ask some question about this Honda Civic Hybrid.
Is this car good in terms of power, maintainance, and reliability?
From wat i heard, the maintainance cost of Hybrid car aint cheap compared to normal car..
Gotta get 1 Civic soon, and i'm considering between the 2.0iV-tec and the Hybrid version..
Will the Hybrid version car underpowered compared to 2.0 iv-tec and how about the maintainance cost for the Hybrid's???  icon_question.gif
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Isn't this a stupid question ?? I hope you know what's the main purpose of hybrid car
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post Mar 23 2009, 01:32 PM

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the motor kicks in during low speed acceleration. so in city driving it shouldnt feel underpowered. not sure if it assists during highway driving, but iianm at highway speeds accelerating and overtaking is slow since only the engine is used. and a 1.3L some more.
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post Mar 23 2009, 01:37 PM

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Civic 2.0 is 155hp, while Civic hybrid is juz 1.3 - 110hp. u say which 1 is powerful ler? smile.gif
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post Mar 23 2009, 01:45 PM

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luckily he didnt ask which one has better fuel consumption. and i really curious about maintenance, what kind of maintenance are u talkin about..

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post Mar 23 2009, 02:09 PM

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post Mar 23 2009, 02:17 PM

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If you are so concern about the maintenance cost, just forget about the hybrid, get the 2.0 Civic.
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post Mar 23 2009, 02:29 PM

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This is true for Honda Hybrid (sadden to say)

Power = Honda Civic Hybrid (Hy) will still lose to conventional Honda Civic (NA) . Dont ever think of adding turbo to a HY car sweat.gif

Fuel Consumption = NA will win over HY, unless you're on highway. On full 100% KL-road, the hybrid technology used by HY does not kick in often enough to justify. You'll still save some money but the ratio money-saved-per-usage is still not in an nice figure.

HY will save alot more petrol compares to NA if it is on the highway or on a non-stop road (read: no traffic-jam).

Price = NA will win simply because 1.6 vs 1.3

Spare parts = NA will win simply because HY uses newer technology that is available only at higher price at the moment.

Ying-effect = HY will win because it is the ONLY hybrid car in Malaysia.

Take your pick. Dont get conned by the HYBRID word used by this Honda Hybrid.



For all reader , check the attachment, and you will realize what I mean.


edit: cant find it, but there was an article i read some time ago which calculates the ROI for all hybrids in the world. The shocking news is that hybrid (due to it's higher cost) doesnt provide a nice ROI compares to normal cars
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post Mar 23 2009, 03:06 PM

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Just get the 2.0. As long as you don't heavy foot, it save petrol consumption. The HYBRID won't good for you and in Malaysia. After you complain no power and high FC. ( cause you keep on heavy foot to overcome the low torque)
Anyway, the petrol here is still cheap.
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post Mar 23 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 23 2009, 03:06 PM)
Just get the 2.0. As long as you don't heavy foot, it save petrol consumption. The HYBRID won't good for you and in Malaysia. After you complain no power and high FC. ( cause you keep on heavy foot to overcome the low torque)
Anyway, the petrol here is still cheap.
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hybird has low torque meh? the electric motor produces lots of torque wor?

neway... get the 2.0 is better... i wonder whats d hype about hybird n all... vw has non hybird cars that has lower fc
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 23 2009, 03:55 PM)
hybird has low torque meh? the electric motor produces lots of torque wor?

neway... get the 2.0 is better... i wonder whats d hype about hybird n all... vw has non hybird cars that has lower fc
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Electric motor got plenty of torque. Just that like everyone said, when you're heavy footed driver loves to floor it, the electric motor is completely useless.
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post Mar 23 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dovienya @ Mar 23 2009, 02:29 PM)
This is true for Honda Hybrid (sadden to say)

Power = Honda Civic Hybrid (Hy) will still lose to conventional Honda Civic (NA) . Dont ever think of adding turbo to a HY car  sweat.gif

Fuel Consumption = NA will win over HY, unless you're on highway. On full 100% KL-road, the hybrid technology used by HY does not kick in often enough to justify. You'll still save some money but the ratio money-saved-per-usage is still not in an nice figure.

HY will save alot more petrol compares to NA if it is on the highway or on a non-stop road (read: no traffic-jam).

Price = NA will win simply because 1.6 vs 1.3

Spare parts = NA will win simply because HY uses newer technology that is available only at higher price at the moment.

Ying-effect = HY will win because it is the ONLY hybrid car in Malaysia.

Take your pick. Dont get conned by the HYBRID word used by this Honda Hybrid.
For all reader , check the attachment, and you will realize what I mean.


edit: cant find it, but there was an article i read some time ago which calculates the ROI for all hybrids in the world. The shocking news is that hybrid (due to it's higher cost) doesnt provide a nice ROI compares to normal cars
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1. FC city drive NA is better during peak hour? are u sure?
cruising 0 - 40kmh, engine is off, no fuel is burned. electric motors all the way. when your car is idle, the engine is stopped. zero emission.
(the reason to get Hybrid is to save fuel, so you can put performance aside)

2. 1.6 vs 1.3? we dont have any 1.6 civic here.. its 1.8 and 2.0 only

3. i've seen grey importers bring in prius, alphard hybrid, harrier hybrid etc..
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post Mar 23 2009, 06:42 PM

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You can search in Star Motoring where they wrote a review about a normal Civic VS the hybrid. It is pretty informative but back then, it doesn't justify to spend so much more to get the hybrid. With the recent price drop, you can well consider it if you want.

Btw, I'm not sure if the Civic Hybrid has a facelift? Anyone knows?
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post Mar 23 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 23 2009, 03:55 PM)
hybird has low torque meh? the electric motor produces lots of torque wor?

neway... get the 2.0 is better... i wonder whats d hype about hybird n all... vw has non hybird cars that has lower fc
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Sorry not low torque. It is low acc or slow pickup.

By the way, How long the battery can last? 2yrs? 4yrs? By that time, how much does it cost to replace the battery? It is not like our normal car battery right?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 23 2009, 06:51 PM)
Sorry not low torque. It is low acc or slow pickup.

By the way, How long the battery can last? 2yrs? 4yrs? By that time, how much does it cost to replace the battery? It is not like our normal car battery right?
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the battery if im nt mistaken can last 200,000 kms for prius, the replacement is indeed expensive but you would have probably sell the car by then
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QUOTE(Dovienya @ Mar 23 2009, 02:29 PM)
This is true for Honda Hybrid (sadden to say)

Power = Honda Civic Hybrid (Hy) will still lose to conventional Honda Civic (NA) . Dont ever think of adding turbo to a HY car  sweat.gif

Fuel Consumption = NA will win over HY, unless you're on highway. On full 100% KL-road, the hybrid technology used by HY does not kick in often enough to justify. You'll still save some money but the ratio money-saved-per-usage is still not in an nice figure.

HY will save alot more petrol compares to NA if it is on the highway or on a non-stop road (read: no traffic-jam).


Price = NA will win simply because 1.6 vs 1.3

Spare parts = NA will win simply because HY uses newer technology that is available only at higher price at the moment.

Ying-effect = HY will win because it is the ONLY hybrid car in Malaysia.

Take your pick. Dont get conned by the HYBRID word used by this Honda Hybrid.
For all reader , check the attachment, and you will realize what I mean.


edit: cant find it, but there was an article i read some time ago which calculates the ROI for all hybrids in the world. The shocking news is that hybrid (due to it's higher cost) doesnt provide a nice ROI compares to normal cars
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dono where u got this info from.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 23 2009, 06:42 PM)
You can search in Star Motoring where they wrote a review about a normal Civic VS the hybrid. It is pretty informative but back then, it doesn't justify to spend so much more to get the hybrid. With the recent price drop, you can well consider it if you want.

Btw, I'm not sure if the Civic Hybrid has a facelift? Anyone knows?
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new price, new facelift wink.gif launched earlier than the recently facelift civic..
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post Mar 23 2009, 07:15 PM

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Hybrid works best in a stop n go traffic. While stopping, the engine will re-charge the battery and when start moving again, it will use the motor because its provide higher torque. Until certain speed when the motor is no longer efficient, the engine takes over.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 23 2009, 06:51 PM)
Sorry not low torque. It is low acc or slow pickup.

By the way, How long the battery can last? 2yrs? 4yrs? By that time, how much does it cost to replace the battery? It is not like our normal car battery right?
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QUOTE(dr3w @ Mar 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
the battery if im nt mistaken can last 200,000 kms for prius, the replacement is indeed expensive but you would have probably sell the car by then
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someone from paultan mentioned this:

As they mentioned that a Civic hybrid battery can last for about 4 years and it cost RM8000 to replace



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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Mar 23 2009, 07:15 PM)
someone from paultan mentioned this:

As they mentioned that a Civic hybrid battery can last for about 4 years and it cost RM8000 to replace
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since the price of oil in M'sia is still reasonable, i think there is no need to buy Hybrid unless TS is a Green Peace Lover



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