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mockv1per
post Mar 23 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Dovienya @ Mar 23 2009, 02:29 PM)
This is true for Honda Hybrid (sadden to say)

Power = Honda Civic Hybrid (Hy) will still lose to conventional Honda Civic (NA) . Dont ever think of adding turbo to a HY car  sweat.gif

Fuel Consumption = NA will win over HY, unless you're on highway. On full 100% KL-road, the hybrid technology used by HY does not kick in often enough to justify. You'll still save some money but the ratio money-saved-per-usage is still not in an nice figure.

HY will save alot more petrol compares to NA if it is on the highway or on a non-stop road (read: no traffic-jam).

Price = NA will win simply because 1.6 vs 1.3

Spare parts = NA will win simply because HY uses newer technology that is available only at higher price at the moment.

Ying-effect = HY will win because it is the ONLY hybrid car in Malaysia.

Take your pick. Dont get conned by the HYBRID word used by this Honda Hybrid.
For all reader , check the attachment, and you will realize what I mean.


edit: cant find it, but there was an article i read some time ago which calculates the ROI for all hybrids in the world. The shocking news is that hybrid (due to it's higher cost) doesnt provide a nice ROI compares to normal cars
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1. FC city drive NA is better during peak hour? are u sure?
cruising 0 - 40kmh, engine is off, no fuel is burned. electric motors all the way. when your car is idle, the engine is stopped. zero emission.
(the reason to get Hybrid is to save fuel, so you can put performance aside)

2. 1.6 vs 1.3? we dont have any 1.6 civic here.. its 1.8 and 2.0 only

3. i've seen grey importers bring in prius, alphard hybrid, harrier hybrid etc..
mockv1per
post Mar 23 2009, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 23 2009, 06:42 PM)
You can search in Star Motoring where they wrote a review about a normal Civic VS the hybrid. It is pretty informative but back then, it doesn't justify to spend so much more to get the hybrid. With the recent price drop, you can well consider it if you want.

Btw, I'm not sure if the Civic Hybrid has a facelift? Anyone knows?
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new price, new facelift wink.gif launched earlier than the recently facelift civic..
mockv1per
post Mar 23 2009, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 23 2009, 06:51 PM)
Sorry not low torque. It is low acc or slow pickup.

By the way, How long the battery can last? 2yrs? 4yrs? By that time, how much does it cost to replace the battery? It is not like our normal car battery right?
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QUOTE(dr3w @ Mar 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
the battery if im nt mistaken can last 200,000 kms for prius, the replacement is indeed expensive but you would have probably sell the car by then
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someone from paultan mentioned this:

As they mentioned that a Civic hybrid battery can last for about 4 years and it cost RM8000 to replace



mockv1per
post Mar 23 2009, 09:16 PM

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youre not going to replace the battery everyday, monthly or yearly basis..
31km/l for a hybrid car its a good figure... + RM167 monthly (battery)
11.63km/l for 2L Civic VTEC

someone do the math if we travel, let say around 3000km monthly, fuel price at rm1.8/L
mockv1per
post Mar 24 2009, 01:28 PM

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you need to research more on how hybrid works dovienya.
your concept is wrong from point 1, and that leads to misleading info for the rest of your points.

this is how the system really works:

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post Mar 24 2009, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(saimatkong @ Mar 24 2009, 01:55 PM)
i asked the sales person it will be under power or not... he said it's the same as the 1.8 as they use all light weight stuff on the hybrid

besides that I asked can change the rim because the rim in hybrid is not nice but the said not recommended to change rim as it's light weight rim alloy or something.

need more input from you guys expert.
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yes, the whole package is designed to save fuel and reduce drag. it has underside diffuser as well.
light weight? i dont think so.. curb weight is in between 1.8 and 2.0

 

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