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post Mar 20 2009, 04:36 PM, updated 8y ago

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A very simple tutorial for silkscreening..hope you guys understand my tutorial hehe biggrin.gif
( IF YOU DONT PLEASE CORRECT ME just in case I skipped some steps o.o )


CLICK TO VIEW NEXT STEP ! sorry no buttons. tongue.gif
I use illustrator to draw out these tools and photoshop to put
all the images together and then use flash to make this biggrin.gif
Credits to newground for awesome preloaders.

*UPDATE How to silkscreen without lightbox ?


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QUOTE(Hexism @ Mar 31 2009, 01:46 AM)
Okeh a few questions ;

1) Silkscreen frame , Fabric Paint and Photo Emulsion , do you know how much do they cost ?

2) If I use your alternative for a lightbox , do I terbalikan the image because the light is coming from above instead of below ?

3) Once the image is burned to the silkscreen , is it permanent or can you wash it off to put on a new image ?

4)What type of paper and oil do you use?
Tankeeuuh
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silkscreen frame ,
rm4.50 for a3
for the silk , rm5.90 from kamdar

fabric paint rm2 also can get tongue.gif
photo emulsion vision art rm25 plus sensitizer rm6.50

nope , no need. if theres any error , the screen still can be used smile.gif

you use normal paper and cooking oil ! tongue.gif



yeah you can make diy lightbox , i use two thick silkscreen frame to make mine.
dont bother asking other lowyat forumers for help with the lightbox ,
i did once and they started bragging about them making lightbox and
obviously not helping me with my lightbox. i got very irritated.

Anyway lol out of topic , in the end i made my own lightbox with only rm30
i think. or you can get the vision art lightbox for rm95

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i use my own used silkscreen frame to combine and made a frame out from it
and i use a flat piece of wood so i can put my ringlight to it, the glass costed
me around rm12 , the ringlight around rm10 ( rm8 for the ring light ) and most
of the stuff i found around the house hahahaha basically i just korek and use whatever i have.

quite mafan tho , but it's fun makng your own lightbox smile.gif
good luck !




For photo emulsion, i recommend socomask , ( its the black container , the emulsion is purple )
I bought the emulsion from somewhere in kl i cant remember ._. and the green bottle ,
the emulsion is in red. the red version is good , but make sure your silk have smaller holes.
lol must use expensive silk.I'll upload the other picture later.



LATEST DESIGN :


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you guys can post up your artwork here also ! me wanna seee !
Latest work by one of the silkscreening students here in lowyat wink.gif rclxms.gif WELLDONE !
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rubber paint and emulsion can be bought from :

http://www.khailien.com.my


QUOTE(deale30 @ Oct 7 2009, 12:33 PM)
Khai Lien Silk Screen Supplier (M) Sdn. Bhd
36, Jalan P10/21,
Seksyen 10, Taman Industri Selaman,
43650 Bandar Baru Bangi,
Selangor, Malaysia

_____________________________________________


and a different supplier :


http://haikuang.com/



51, JALAN DATO HAJI EUSOFF, KOMPLEKS DAMAI,
KUALA LUMPUR
MALAYSIA
50400

haikuang@streamyx.com
1700800780 / +60340420071
1700800780 / +60340423425

Business Hours:
Monday ~ Friday - 9am ~ 6pm,
Saturday - 9am ~ 4pm
Sunday and Public Holiday - Closed

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QUOTE(payne11 @ May 6 2010, 03:52 PM)
Hi,

just to share  smile.gif

Khai lien have many type of emulsion, there are for t-shirt(garment), pvc,metal etc.
the best for you is to drop by their shop and ask them.

i'v used khai lien emulsion, they have the purple (come with sanitizer), pink(premix with sanitizer), and green(come with sanitizer)

the best is the purple, it can give you very sharp image.

But compare than khai lien, hai kuang gives you a cheaper price for the purple emulsion.
i still using the hai kuang(socomask)
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GUYS AND GIRLS : READ THE THREAD BEFORE PM-ING ME WHERE TO GET THESE ITEMS. THESE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE (LINKS ON TOP) LOL x) Please read through first ![YOUTUBE]

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post Mar 21 2009, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Hexism @ Mar 21 2009, 03:31 AM)
Hooray thanks! this will come in handy for my final project because I might do some t shirts!
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hehehe if you need any help you can ask =)


Added on March 21, 2009, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(wernshen @ Mar 20 2009, 05:01 PM)
nice one! i think i'll break out my silkscreen kit this weekend.
one question though - i don't have a light box. can suggest any other alternatives?
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hold on , i draw another tutorial for you =)


Added on March 21, 2009, 2:02 pm
QUOTE(kyLL @ Mar 20 2009, 10:13 PM)
ho. nice. thanks!
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welcome =)

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post Mar 31 2009, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(Hexism @ Mar 31 2009, 01:46 AM)
Okeh a few questions ;

1) Silkscreen frame , Fabric Paint and Photo Emulsion , do you know how much do they cost ?

2) If I use your alternative for a lightbox , do I terbalikan the image because the light is coming from above instead of below ?

3) Once the image is burned to the silkscreen , is it permanent or can you wash it off to put on a new image ?

4)What type of paper and oil do you use?
Tankeeuuh
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silkscreen frame ,
rm4.50 for a3
for the silk , rm5.90 from kamdar

fabric paint rm2 also can get tongue.gif
photo emulsion vision art rm25 plus sensitizer rm6.50

nope , no need. if theres any error , the screen still can be used smile.gif
if youre still confuse , you can look for the video in youtube ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnu1GICScks

you use normal paper and cooking oil ! tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2009, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(wernshen @ Mar 20 2009, 05:01 PM)
nice one! i think i'll break out my silkscreen kit this weekend.
one question though - i don't have a light box. can suggest any other alternatives?
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yeah you can make diy lightbox , i use two thick silkscreen frame to make mine. dont bother asking other lowyat forumers for help with the lightbox , i did once and they started bragging about them making lightbox and obviously not helping me with my lightbox. i was very irritated.

Anyway lol out of topic , in the end i made my own lightbox with only rm30 bucks i think. or you can get the vision art lightbox for rm95

user posted image

i use my own used silkscreen frame to combine and made a frame out from it and i use a flat piece of wood so i can put my ringlight to it, the glass costed me around rm12 , the ringlight around rm10 ( rm8 for the ring light ) and most of the stuff i found around the house hahahaha basically i just korek and use whatever i have.

quite mafan tho , but it's fun makng your own lightbox smile.gif
good luck !


Added on March 31, 2009, 3:00 am
QUOTE(Hexism @ Mar 31 2009, 02:57 AM)
ooo cheap je , but can't you get like ready made silkscreen+frame ,as in the whole thing siap with the silk attached to the frame ?
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they charge very expensive -_________- like rm11 bucks i think from vision art. and you use stencil remover liquid to remoe the photo emulsion.


Added on March 31, 2009, 3:07 am
QUOTE(Hexism @ Mar 31 2009, 02:57 AM)
ooo cheap je , but can't you get like ready made silkscreen+frame ,as in the whole thing siap with the silk attached to the frame ?
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they charge very expensive -_________- like rm11 bucks i think from vision art. and you use stencil remover liquid to remoe the photo emulsion.


Added on March 31, 2009, 3:07 amthey charge very expensive -_________- like rm11 bucks i think from vision art. and you use stencil remover liquid to remoe the photo emulsion.

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post Apr 1 2009, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Hexism @ Apr 1 2009, 12:39 AM)
surveyed an art store here , a4 frame + screen Rm 9.20 , Photo Emulsion Rm 29 , Fabric Paint Rm 3.50 .

so if agak agak to make a lightbox is 2x a4 frame + ring light + kaca quite cheap lah for the lightbox , and can use for everyday work also.

Wey macha where did you get the kaca ?
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hardware shop pun ada tongue.gif where do you live ? after getting all the tools dont forget to share ok tongue.gif hahaha
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post Apr 2 2009, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 2 2009, 04:03 PM)
Hi... I wanna know where can i get the materiel like frame, photo emulsion in sarawak???
I ask i hardware shop about squeegee and emulsion... they dunno wat is it... all shocking.gif  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
If in sibu then is better... rclxms.gif
I found silk frame sell in Popular Sibu here... A4 size... RM5.80 ( mahal la...)
And i can use fabric dye for printing my shirt... right?
I wan to do it for my church project....
Pls help...
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awww.. i have no idea if they have photo emulsion and squeegee in sibu.
but actually you can try looking for these items in bookshops , hardware shops dont sell silkscreen tools. just the wood and light for the lightbox.
yes you can use fabric dye =)
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post Apr 3 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 2 2009, 11:51 PM)
Fabric dye about how much arr?? 500ml to 1 liter...
I saw popular sell RM2.20... fro a small bottle... i think only 200ml...
If rubber dye?? sell in market??
Tat 1 will make the color like rubber feel when touch.. right??
Is it more expensive compare to fabric dye??
And 1 more arclyc dye...its gfor paint on arclyc??
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fabric dye around that price =)
but i still recommend rubber colour because can tahan lama =)
yeah if youre interested in getting photo emulsion and rubber colour you can email http://www.khailien.com.my/
maybe they do postage ? i'm not sure..

Acrylic is something similar to rubber colour , but not sure about the quality.

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This is photo emulsion , i recommend socomask , ( its the black container , the emulsion is purple )

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post Apr 3 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cloudsea @ Apr 3 2009, 08:36 PM)
Ooooo~I have try to do it for my school project before.
Such a good thing to learn.But cost a bit ~~~
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post Apr 6 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 6 2009, 12:34 PM)
Its really hard to find photo emulsion here in sarawak..
Maybe kuching have.... but far away...
Maybe i will ask some forumer to post tome... haiz...
Wanna ask.... Usual RM26 photo emulsion the quantity how much arr??
Can use how many time for a3 size?
I bought a 100w bulb (a bit orange color)... can use to do expose... rite?
Take how long to expose? and how to know the expose is ok oredy?
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one bottle can make more than 30 screens definitely. my class use one bottle tongue.gif but it depends on how many times you redo. for a3 size.
preferably dont use coloured lightbulb , white tungsten light would do because you're burning the images onto the screen with white light its cleaner better faster.

i use 7 minutes to burn and remember , use a hairdryer to dry the screen faster and when you do the photo emulsion coating , make sure its really really thin. if its too thick , it will spoil the image burning and it wont be clean.
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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 6 2009, 02:12 PM)
Bro... u take what course oooo?? Got tis kind tutorial meh???
I saw u do animation also ooo... with flash arr??
I'm thinking to take multimedia course... hehe...
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I'm taking multimedia design. they will have this for foundation but only for a project.
I continued making screens cause self interest , flash also.. ( maybe i should put up a tutorial ? tongue.gif )
tongue.gif im in sem 3 year 1 havent touch flash yet ( which they will soon in year 2 )
If you really love doing art manually and digitally , you will be able to pick up fast , as there is internet you can find many many tutorials out there. Maybe in our country , sometimes we dont have things we need here to do our stuff then have to order and yadayadayada.

You should take the course if youre interested because we're totally different from graphic design course tongue.gif something different tongue.gif I freelance too , just in case if you wonder multimedians only do websites and flash and computers , we do ads , motion graphic , prints and yeah multi-media stuff.
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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 6 2009, 10:25 PM)
Last time i take computer science diploma.... regret...
Now wanna cont my degree... i choose multimedia... LOVE it...
I do freelance restaurant menu design, website design....
And i be a Display Artist in super market... for 1 year ++
Tat gain me a lot of knowledge in painting, design, decoration...etc...
Now i'm learning flash by my own... Urs movie not bad...
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wah good ! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mclelun @ Apr 8 2009, 01:32 PM)
ahhh nice,
I want to do my own tshirt too,
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hahah you should. seriously vector + silkscreen are like brudders lol
and if you ask why , because vector is.. i dunno why but vector format better hahahahah
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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Apr 8 2009, 03:41 PM)
awesome work!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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thanks serpentarius ! hehehe tongue.gif
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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 8 2009, 05:21 PM)
bro rubbermilk.... i need photo emulsion.... U there got extra? or unused phot emulsion? Can post to me in sarawak? I will pay the photo emuilson and postage...
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Around art friend there cheaper tongue.gif i just checked. mhmm cant la bro cause have to go here and there. from sunway to midvalley then post office :S you order from khailien.com.my can i think.

from my college bookshop rm25 for the photo emulsion and sensitizer RM6.50
from art friend rm20.50 for both


do you need asap ? if i go there maybe i will be able to get it for you.. but not now. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 8 2009, 05:42 PM)
This weekend go there? I find someone tat hav photo emulsion stock...
RM26 for emulsion and sensitizer .... but is " FAIRBRENO ".... duno can trust or not...
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yeah can be trusted
the one from art friend and my college bookshop is fairbreno hahaha sorry forgot to tell you =)

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QUOTE(mclelun @ Apr 9 2009, 10:35 AM)
I am still trying to understand how the silkscreen work. Maybe I am stupid tongue.gif
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no youre not , I dont get it at first too. =)
I dont mind explaining ,

The most important item in silkscreening is = photo emulsion
photo emulsion is like film. ( they use this photo emulsion for polaroid tongue.gif if still dont understand can ask me again but the emulsion for polaroid is super sensitive )

This photo emulsion is not that sensitive. in fact you can actually just do it in open air , without a darkroom. All you need is just a room with dim lights.

and of course we need to print the image ( that we want to burn onto the screen ) and it has to be black ! because when the lights go through your paper , it will burn the image onto the screen when you expose it. and when the image is burned onto the screen, the black parts will fall off when you wash the screen.

the screen : the frame is to hold the silk ketat ketat and so we can put emulsion and burn the image onto it. its like a platform tongue.gif


Understand anot ? tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(laulyg @ Apr 9 2009, 12:18 PM)
rubbermilk... i see u always use oil to make the paper transparent.....
Is the result same as I use photostat machine to print on transparent paper?
But i think if use oil, the paper still not 100% transparent....
If the result about same.... then can save money for using cooking oil only... haha... As the transparent paper not cheap...
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Use paper better , most of the silkscreening factories they use paper and oil. yeah and i heard if you use oil and paper , the image will be nicer. =) I never use transparency. ok la only once ( which was the first time and i failed lol )

well you can say that we can cheat the light by using oil to make your paper transparent lol


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QUOTE(s98432512 @ Apr 11 2009, 10:56 AM)
nice smile.gif
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Thank you tongue.gif
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QUOTE(*Reiko* @ Apr 12 2009, 03:05 PM)
Thanks for this  rclxms.gif Great Tutorial! Just bought the Photo Emulsion, and will try it soon.
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Awesome tongue.gif dont forget to post it up here when youre done ! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mclelun @ Apr 13 2009, 10:28 AM)
haha thanks,
so there is some kind of chemical involve in the process.
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you totally simplified my long ass essay. lol yes chemical.

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