Can mac os support autocad, 3dmax software?
i am an architecture student..thinking of buying a macbook.
any recommended?
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Mar 19 2009, 11:59 PM, updated 16y ago
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Can mac os support autocad, 3dmax software?
i am an architecture student..thinking of buying a macbook. any recommended? This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Apr 8 2009, 05:03 PM |
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for 3d design i suggest u buy macbook pro not macbook..for heavily usage macbook pro more suitable..
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QUOTE(blinkblink88 @ Mar 19 2009, 11:59 PM) Can mac os support autocad, 3dmax software? Big 'NO' unless you willing to use 3rd party which might can import CAD or 3ds file, but it's not really recommended to do so. You still have to use windows for that. If you use those 2 software mostly, i guess you go buy other brand of laptop. Although macbook can install windows but that's defeat the whole main purpose if you keep booting to windows instead of mac os, right? Just my suggestion i am an architecture student..thinking of buying a macbook. any recommended? |
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During my Engineering school years, i was forced to leave my ibook (then) and i bought an acer solely for the 'engineering programs' like autocad and such. Therefore my scenario is rather similar to yours.
Looking back then, i RARELY use the autocad program at home as most are done at the school lab. and even if i did, it is not that much. But that is enough to force me to put up with windows for 3 years. Bottomline is, if i had the chance then, i would've used a mac boot windows whenever i need, only when i need it. I think if i can use a mbp then, that would be MY choice. Too bad bootcamp wasn't available til recently. I think at the end of the day, it buoys down each individual preference and budget. I rarely play games (Except fm09). Even if i did, most major games like w3,cod4,fm09 is available via mac anyway. and my rarity to use any windows software allowed me to come back to Mac I dont think anyone here can really "recommend" you the right laptop as no one really know what you're requirements are or how fast you need or can tolerate, etc... |
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I'm a landscape architect. Last time used to be only in windows world. But come to my final years I started to use Mac.
Now still using Autocad (can't find much conveniant program to repalce it). But since you are in early stage might as well try Vectorworks. But for 3DS Max, the comparable is Cinema 4D. If you know how to use 3DS Max, then Cinema 4D should be no problem. |
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Mar 20 2009, 06:01 PM) I'm a landscape architect. Last time used to be only in windows world. But come to my final years I started to use Mac. i am in de middle stage of architecture course...Now still using Autocad (can't find much conveniant program to repalce it). But since you are in early stage might as well try Vectorworks. But for 3DS Max, the comparable is Cinema 4D. If you know how to use 3DS Max, then Cinema 4D should be no problem. if i use other software to produce my work it is hard for me to do printing service in a shop... any solution on that? |
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can u list the softwares ur using? I want to know also.
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auto cad, 3d max, sketchup, corel draw, adobe etc....
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Autocad, 3dsMax >> windows' only softwares.
There was no compatiblitiies problem when I print cad files in printing shop. There should be an export for .dwg or any similiar extensions even if you use the not-so-common Mac cad counterpart. I wonder, what drives you to use Mac for Architecture work? My boss is willing to buy me a workstation pc just for AutoCad, simply because the work can be used in other professional's pc. |
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QUOTE(blinkblink88 @ Mar 21 2009, 01:27 AM) Adobe and Corel did exist in Mac version.Autocad, 3D max no Mac version, but only autocad you need to print in native format. For 3D Max mostly you print .png or .jpg files. I'm not sure for what reason you wanna print 3dmax, unless you like looking at the wireframe.. Since now Mac is running on Intel processor, might as well you try to use parallel desktop especially for AutoCad. Last time my 3dmax class i did my assignment in Cinema 4D, good thing my lecturer didn't ask for softcopy so just print and send final product.. This post has been edited by b48753: Mar 21 2009, 11:11 AM |
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QUOTE(shoguniphicus @ Mar 21 2009, 02:00 AM) Autocad, 3dsMax >> windows' only softwares. i do to have a pc..it is 3 years old but luckily stil function well..There was no compatiblitiies problem when I print cad files in printing shop. There should be an export for .dwg or any similiar extensions even if you use the not-so-common Mac cad counterpart. I wonder, what drives you to use Mac for Architecture work? My boss is willing to buy me a workstation pc just for AutoCad, simply because the work can be used in other professional's pc. but now i m looking for a laptop..wish to get a mac because is it more different with my pc and any other laptop.. Added on March 21, 2009, 11:24 am QUOTE(b48753 @ Mar 21 2009, 11:04 AM) Adobe and Corel did exist in Mac version. actually printing thing will oni happen on next sems..around early of jun..now we are stil manual work...Autocad, 3D max no Mac version, but only autocad you need to print in native format. For 3D Max mostly you print .png or .jpg files. I'm not sure for what reason you wanna print 3dmax, unless you like looking at the wireframe.. Since now Mac is running on Intel processor, might as well you try to use parallel desktop especially for AutoCad. Last time my 3dmax class i did my assignment in Cinema 4D, good thing my lecturer didn't ask for softcopy so just print and send final product.. i do to have a pc..so i dun even ned to worry much about the auto cad software but going to learn 3d max on next sems... if my lecturer asking for softcopy den i will die... our school is stringy!! oni editing student r using iMac and somemore they just change for it...so it is a long pathway for them to change for architecture student because we dont have our own computer lab..sad case... This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Mar 21 2009, 11:24 AM |
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virtualisations should do the trick. install VMware Fusion/Parallels Desktop and you can get windows running in mac. get best of both world
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i am architecture student as well. i own a new alu macbook pro and i think it did a great job in photoshop and sketchup. however, when come to cad stuff, archicad really not as good as autocad. Hence, after a month purchase my alu macbook pro, i bought another sony AR series for my cad work and gaming...
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Mar 21 2009, 04:48 PM) virtualisations should do the trick. install VMware Fusion/Parallels Desktop and you can get windows running in mac. get best of both world but the software is costly right?Added on March 21, 2009, 9:49 pm QUOTE(yawhong @ Mar 21 2009, 05:42 PM) i am architecture student as well. i own a new alu macbook pro and i think it did a great job in photoshop and sketchup. however, when come to cad stuff, archicad really not as good as autocad. Hence, after a month purchase my alu macbook pro, i bought another sony AR series for my cad work and gaming... you are rich enough to do so...but not for me This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Mar 21 2009, 09:49 PM |
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i think is the same whether u choose mac n windows. You can do more things with windows whereas u need to stick with apple if u use mac. I'm using autoCAD, solidworks, Cartia in the future which I find nice to use.
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I would recommend macbook alu 2.0 with up grade of 4 gb of ram..when using anything to do with windows,just bootcamp it..why,the GPU is powerful enough to take CAD softwares on boocamp...and also when using parallels and VMware fusion..your mac is going to use almost half of your ram. eventually slows down your mac ..virtualization is not worth it if you are going to use only one software on windows ..this has been discuss in many mac user forum,blogs around the net...i was in a dilemma too..try google autocad on mac..dont worry if your budget is tight.go for macbook alu 2.0 with 4gb ram..
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QUOTE(paizuka @ Mar 22 2009, 03:51 AM) I would recommend macbook alu 2.0 with up grade of 4 gb of ram..when using anything to do with windows,just bootcamp it..why,the GPU is powerful enough to take CAD softwares on boocamp...and also when using parallels and VMware fusion..your mac is going to use almost half of your ram. eventually slows down your mac ..virtualization is not worth it if you are going to use only one software on windows ..this has been discuss in many mac user forum,blogs around the net...i was in a dilemma too..try google autocad on mac..dont worry if your budget is tight.go for macbook alu 2.0 with 4gb ram.. r u using 2.0 4gb too?where do u upgrade ur ram?around how much is it cost? Added on March 30, 2009, 12:29 amanymore opinion? This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Mar 30 2009, 12:29 AM |
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May i know is that autocad, 3d max and sketchup can run nicely in macbook by using bootcamp?
can is run smoothly same as pc? can anyone give me some opinion for it, thank, i will appreciate it~~ |
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I installed 3D max 8 in bootcamp.. It runs smooth.
Just the apple layout is kinda weird... Ctrl, Alt placement will make u confuse to short-cut usage. Get an external Keyboard. Sketchup having Mac version,rite? Try ur best to use Mac os x all the time.. Bootcamp heating up very quick. |
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macbook as personal computer .
windows desktop for autocad etc in architecture works . you must remember , even if u can find altenative like archiCAD, you will have big time when u are trying to syncronize your work with your friends . |
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go use PC dun waste ur money.
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im an architecture student too.
personally, i'd run windows under parallels/vmware and install 3dmax/autocad on there. as for adobe, msoffice, sketchup, all are available for macosx. sketchup on my white c2d 2.0 w/ x3100 runs fine. just be sure to have enough ram. also, vectorworks allows you to import and export autocad files just like how iwork does with office files. hope this helps somehow. Added on April 9, 2009, 10:45 amjust read this http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/08/autoca...turning-to-mac/ This post has been edited by iglue: Apr 9 2009, 10:45 AM |
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Apr 8 2009, 05:39 PM) I installed 3D max 8 in bootcamp.. It runs smooth. ya...should get an external keyboard..if not, reli hard for 3d max user..Just the apple layout is kinda weird... Ctrl, Alt placement will make u confuse to short-cut usage. Get an external Keyboard. Sketchup having Mac version,rite? Try ur best to use Mac os x all the time.. Bootcamp heating up very quick. i found sketchup for mac version, sketchup problem solved. then which window r u using?XP @ Vista? i heard that they said use window 7 is better, the heat problem not that bad like XP. |
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sketchup mac isn't that easy to use .
do take note that things like orbit etc is not so friendly to user when u have the center buttion working as expose. windows is still the basic for archtiecture in malyaisa. anyway ,GDP uses alot of macs there. |
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QUOTE(iglue @ Apr 9 2009, 05:42 AM) im an architecture student too. do u face any problem on it?personally, i'd run windows under parallels/vmware and install 3dmax/autocad on there. as for adobe, msoffice, sketchup, all are available for macosx. sketchup on my white c2d 2.0 w/ x3100 runs fine. just be sure to have enough ram. also, vectorworks allows you to import and export autocad files just like how iwork does with office files. hope this helps somehow. Added on April 9, 2009, 10:45 amjust read this http://www.macrumors.com/2009/04/08/autoca...turning-to-mac/ which mac r u using? Added on April 9, 2009, 8:26 pm QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Apr 9 2009, 08:24 PM) sketchup mac isn't that easy to use . u tried mac version sketchup?do take note that things like orbit etc is not so friendly to user when u have the center buttion working as expose. windows is still the basic for archtiecture in malyaisa. anyway ,GDP uses alot of macs there. what is de different? This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Apr 9 2009, 08:26 PM |
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it is almost the same .
but now i am using desktop for it, graphic wise , of course mac is the better one. but that is only ifyou got a high end mac. a laptop is never as good as a desktop . secnod thing is, macbook is quite compact , heat is going to be insanely high for it . i used to run photoshopat os x and sketch up with parallels(autocad) . |
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I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm a mac lover, For my work which required extensive use of 3D Modeling, I have to go for pc because I'm using Autodesk 's Inventor. I have tried running a lower version of AuoCad with Parallel Desktop before but found it to be buggy. Why not get a cheap pc laptop for your cad and do the rest with mac?
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QUOTE(kc3832 @ Apr 10 2009, 12:39 AM) I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm a mac lover, For my work which required extensive use of 3D Modeling, I have to go for pc because I'm using Autodesk 's Inventor. I have tried running a lower version of AuoCad with Parallel Desktop before but found it to be buggy. Why not get a cheap pc laptop for your cad and do the rest with mac? i do to have a 3 years old pc that stil can run my autocad well..just sometime i m going to show my work to lecturer so mayb i ned to bring along my laptop... sketchup do to have mac version so problem is not there anymore... but next semester i have to learn 3D max but i believe my pc shud not run it well because only 1gb ram... so i m thinking whether can my 3D max run with macbook well for de 5 months semester... |
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then install bootcamp and use windows .
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hai there... im 3d animation student... and i bought mbp around last year..
i tried to use 3ds max in my mbp using bootcamp but it doenst work well.. if u r using maya software, it works well including rendering stage... not recommended to use 3rd party software.. its really laggy just my 2cents |
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I run autoCAD on winxp in parallels on my macbook pro 2.4 Ghz (using the 9400M, so in a way its the same as a macbook 2.4 Ghz) and everything looks good to me
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i'm automotive student, using CATIA to design vehicle.
so macbook pro running vista business 64bit via bootcamp still crash sometime. |
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QUOTE(cocofrioz @ Apr 10 2009, 06:48 PM) hai there... im 3d animation student... and i bought mbp around last year.. then how do u solve de problem?i tried to use 3ds max in my mbp using bootcamp but it doenst work well.. if u r using maya software, it works well including rendering stage... not recommended to use 3rd party software.. its really laggy just my 2cents do u still using bootcamp to run 3d max? but i wil use it for few month only after that i think i wil learn de other better software by my own.. 3d max is school requirement oni.. Added on April 12, 2009, 10:18 pm QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 12 2009, 12:43 AM) I run autoCAD on winxp in parallels on my macbook pro 2.4 Ghz (using the 9400M, so in a way its the same as a macbook 2.4 Ghz) and everything looks good to me i stil duno either buying mac o vaio...still under considering.. will u feel over heat on using win xp? Added on April 12, 2009, 10:19 pm QUOTE(cRazYee @ Apr 12 2009, 01:41 AM) i'm automotive student, using CATIA to design vehicle. is that because of window vista is not that stable in mac and make it crash and lag?so macbook pro running vista business 64bit via bootcamp still crash sometime. This post has been edited by blinkblink88: Apr 12 2009, 10:19 PM |
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windows on mac components wont run so smoothly due to the fact that mac is designed in a different way to best suit mac os x .
bootcamp is not the main thing when they design the architecture of the mac machines . the driver for windows itself is developed by mac. and you cant find it online . |
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Apr 13 2009, 03:47 AM) windows on mac components wont run so smoothly due to the fact that mac is designed in a different way to best suit mac os x . mean that you recommended me to get a vaio better than mac in my case?bootcamp is not the main thing when they design the architecture of the mac machines . the driver for windows itself is developed by mac. and you cant find it online . |
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I am so sick of softwares appear to incompatible with Macbook. Especially when u pay so much for a MacPro.
So is there any ways that i can do to download windows into my Mac? need help. Your help is very much appreciated. I need to use the software to complete my assignment. Thank you so much! |
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Apr 9 2009, 08:24 PM) sketchup mac isn't that easy to use . Off topic for a while..are you working with GDP now?do take note that things like orbit etc is not so friendly to user when u have the center buttion working as expose. windows is still the basic for archtiecture in malyaisa. anyway ,GDP uses alot of macs there. |
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i am not working with GDP now. but i got contact with people who are closely related to GDP and he told me about that.
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I see..
But anyway from most what I know is in architectural field using of Macs to PC is about 40:60. Most renowed firm like Hijjas Kasturi and Senireka are using PC instead or Macs for their tools of trade. And for firm which using Macs they're using Vectorworks instead of AutoCAD for their drafting tools. This post has been edited by b48753: May 13 2009, 11:11 AM |
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no autocad for mac, no studio max..
but there is sketchup and archicad... i don like archicad... it end up i run bootcamp to use my autocad = = |
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I'm working with GDP and we're using vectorworks, some are using 11, 12, 12.5, 2008 and even 2009. After using CAD about 5 years, i might say that vectorworks is better. But after all, it just a tool for drawing production.
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QUOTE(albirri @ May 16 2009, 09:28 PM) I'm working with GDP and we're using vectorworks, some are using 11, 12, 12.5, 2008 and even 2009. After using CAD about 5 years, i might say that vectorworks is better. But after all, it just a tool for drawing production. Is it easy to learn vectorworks?I've been trying to get a lesson for it but quite difficult to get anyone that could give a tutor.. |
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QUOTE(b48753 @ May 18 2009, 04:52 PM) Is it easy to learn vectorworks?I've been trying to get a lesson for it but quite difficult to get anyone that could give a tutor.. I could i master it in a month. I think my surrounding helps me a lot. Everybody is using it and u have works to be done. So, u have no choice rather than learn it as fast as u can... |
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get a decent one with graphics , boot into windows for sketchup .
macbook would be fine , then build a rig for long lasting poweeer . knowing laptop they are never as powerful as desktop. i have a macbook and a desktop with hackintosh+windows7+windowxp(soon vista) running. |
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Yeah...i think for an architecture students, desktop is the answer. When it comes to final presentation, u'll working around the clock and might not shutting ur pc for quite sometimes...rendering sumore. I had turn my Pc on for more than 1 week and just restarting it...(talking from experience)
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anyone here know how to make autoCAD and 3ds max work on my windows xp pro running via bootcamp work properly? it works after the first time installing and everything but after i have changed the OS to mac and change it back, apparently it expires althou i have input the serial key etc during installation. it worked find before i change OS but after, it just get expired. and the old activation key doesnt work anymore. i need to actually delete the whole entire software from the system and install it again everytime i wanna use these 2 softwares. anyone else using mac experiencing this problem? can anyone tell me how to solve it? in deep need of help now.
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Macbook Alu 2.4ghz with 2GB ram
if i wanna bootcamp Window Vista or Window XP Pro into my mac osx will it be a problem? they say better boot XP coz more stable izzit thruth? or Vista also can? what should i do in order me to do my Interior Design work. I will be using Autocad and 3D max in future time. |
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Mar 2 2010, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Cpz @ Mar 2 2010, 06:35 PM) Macbook Alu 2.4ghz with 2GB ram yes, XP is generally more stable, windows 7 seems to get mixed results. not sure for the new driversif i wanna bootcamp Window Vista or Window XP Pro into my mac osx will it be a problem? they say better boot XP coz more stable izzit thruth? or Vista also can? what should i do in order me to do my Interior Design work. I will be using Autocad and 3D max in future time. vista can, it's just a matter of whether u can stand it or not..haha. dun worry ur mac can support |
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Mar 2 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 2 2010, 07:01 PM) yes, XP is generally more stable, windows 7 seems to get mixed results. not sure for the new drivers Bro, which one is better ?vista can, it's just a matter of whether u can stand it or not..haha. dun worry ur mac can support coz VWfusion ?? what that ?? all program show also need to install Window only can use?? actually how to boot i also donno...coz i new..=.= sumore as forummer said : after booting the WinXp he say after reboot the laptop he open up the WinXp that install it say need to key in the serial again... How come? |
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Mar 2 2010, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Cpz @ Mar 2 2010, 09:05 PM) Bro, which one is better ? mm cant really understand ur english there bro. are u asking XP or vista is better? i'll vote for XP. windows7 is also a good choice, i didnt install windows7 cuz my printer doesnt work in windows7. probably got new driver already but i dont bother anymore hehecoz VWfusion ?? what that ?? all program show also need to install Window only can use?? actually how to boot i also donno...coz i new..=.= sumore as forummer said : after booting the WinXp he say after reboot the laptop he open up the WinXp that install it say need to key in the serial again... How come? about VMware fusion, bootcamp i suggest u go read up this thread 1st: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/979861 |
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Mar 2 2010, 11:44 PM
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lol....bro...thx for the link...
and ur help...and sorry for my broken english..=.= |
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Mar 3 2010, 10:58 AM
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I wonder why still some people wanna use 3DS Max while plenty of much better 3D programs appear on Mac platform, further it's much cheaper than the 3DS Max.
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Mar 3 2010, 10:58 AM) I wonder why still some people wanna use 3DS Max while plenty of much better 3D programs appear on Mac platform, further it's much cheaper than the 3DS Max. bro do recommend the software names. and best if it doesnt vary too much in terms of operation and functions bcos i am currently a student and the lecturers teaches us using 3ds max. hope to hear your recommendations. |
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Mar 5 2010, 11:10 AM
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I use Cinema 4D now as replacement for 3DS Max. That's the only software I found with similar interface to 3DS Max. For your info I learn 3DS Max formally last time.
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Mar 5 2010, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Mar 5 2010, 11:10 AM) I use Cinema 4D now as replacement for 3DS Max. That's the only software I found with similar interface to 3DS Max. For your info I learn 3DS Max formally last time. Cinema 4D? yeah i have heard of that software before. considering that my college computers uses 3ds max, would the files be compatible?and in your opinion, it is it easier to operate 3ds max or cinema 4d since you have used both. |
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Mar 8 2010, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(llsphinxll @ Mar 5 2010, 02:46 PM) Cinema 4D? yeah i have heard of that software before. considering that my college computers uses 3ds max, would the files be compatible? You need to convert from .MAX to .3ds format before using the files in Cinema 4D and vise versa.and in your opinion, it is it easier to operate 3ds max or cinema 4d since you have used both. For me it's much easier to use Cinema 4D cause of the manipulation of the object was in form of object manager, compared to 3DS Max which in the form of object editing (got problems with reversing the editing). As long you don't convert the object to editable mesh you can still go back to the very 1st object. |
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Mar 12 2010, 05:25 PM
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Hey guys i wanna install on Autocadd on my mac..
when when i start the .exe my window totally freeze! anyone can help? mine is on Bootcamp Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:34 AM
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^ can u use the same .exe to install on another PC? maybe the installer isnt a good copy
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Mar 13 2010, 12:49 AM
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Autocad 2007 works perfectly on my Windows 7 Ultimate bootcamp.
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Mar 15 2010, 11:08 PM
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hi guys..
recently i just bootcamp vista ultimate 32bit on my mb and Vwfusion but when i started to run the Vwfusion. the graphic driver change to Standard VGA graphic accelerator? how can it become like that? rather than Nvidia Geforce 9400 from my mb alu 2.4ghz with 3gb ram. Sumore when running autocad 2010 on my mb via vwfusion. those lines is started to blinking when i try to pull to an angle? This post has been edited by MazeLoL: Mar 15 2010, 11:10 PM |
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Mar 16 2010, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(MazeLoL @ Mar 15 2010, 11:08 PM) hi guys.. it's because ur windows dont know got 9400M. remember, virtual machine works by tricking the guest OS is installed on an actual computer. so VMfusion just told vista that the graphics is "standard VGA" instead of "9400M". it also tells vista that only the RAM u set is the RAM available, not ur full RAM. ur vista has absolutely no idea it's being installed on a mac.recently i just bootcamp vista ultimate 32bit on my mb and Vwfusion but when i started to run the Vwfusion. the graphic driver change to Standard VGA graphic accelerator? how can it become like that? rather than Nvidia Geforce 9400 from my mb alu 2.4ghz with 3gb ram. Sumore when running autocad 2010 on my mb via vwfusion. those lines is started to blinking when i try to pull to an angle? so yeah this leads to pretty bad graphics performance. autocad 2008 also ran like crap. 2002 works fine though |
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Mar 16 2010, 12:35 AM) it's because ur windows dont know got 9400M. remember, virtual machine works by tricking the guest OS is installed on an actual computer. so VMfusion just told vista that the graphics is "standard VGA" instead of "9400M". it also tells vista that only the RAM u set is the RAM available, not ur full RAM. ur vista has absolutely no idea it's being installed on a mac. ooo...no wonder lol....so yeah this leads to pretty bad graphics performance. autocad 2008 also ran like crap. 2002 works fine though hehe...so thx...i will stick with bootcamp instead of those software...at least i can get use my Nvidia on Vista...thx xD |
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Mar 21 2010, 01:16 AM
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bootcamp win7 pro 32bit
runs CATIA V5R19, ANSYS 12, Pheonics (CFD) no problem |
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Mar 23 2010, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(llsphinxll @ Mar 21 2010, 11:07 PM) nice! urm but seems abit blur. i don't mind uploading some of my works for you to compare. anyways i am having prob with my 3ds max. That the main thing..3DS Max rendering most of time is too sharp, until you can't feel the depth of the output..the worst thing is about mapping the material..the result looks so fake. Seriously I don't like 3DS Max. That's why only Malaysian is using 3DS Max for cartoon animation. This post has been edited by b48753: Mar 23 2010, 11:22 AM |
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Mar 23 2010, 12:49 PM
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I used to use:
- FormZ for CAD, Modeling and Rendering - Vectorworks for CAD and 3D modeling together with ArtLantis for rendering Dabbled with: - Cinema 4D (pretty good) - Maya - Lightwave - Carrara - Strata 3D |
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Mar 24 2010, 11:33 AM
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guys... anyone know good software for CNC coding? like i write the G/M code, then the software will show me what i'm doing...
something like reverse alphaCAM. in alphacam is i draw n tell what the machine is going to do..then it'll give me the codes. need it to verify my codes...i wont know if i made any mistakes or not |
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Mar 24 2010, 11:15 PM
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Mar 25 2010, 09:27 AM
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parallel desktop 5 run win xp and do my CFD simulation = perfect!
performance is almost par to bootcamp windows |
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Mar 26 2010, 09:54 AM
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May 23 2010, 08:59 AM
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this is GREAT!
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/22/autoca...ta-screenshots/ ![]() but I love my firm autocad2009 with their own shortcuts Added on May 23, 2010, 8:59 am ![]() This post has been edited by kazasho: May 23 2010, 08:59 AM |
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QUOTE(kazasho @ May 23 2010, 08:59 AM) this is GREAT! haha you beat me to it, time to convert the architecture fellershttp://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/22/autoca...ta-screenshots/ ![]() but I love my firm autocad2009 with their own shortcuts Added on May 23, 2010, 8:59 am ![]() |
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darn this is exciting. den there will be no need to change OS everytime i needa work. if only they put a release date on when will it b coming out.
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May 24 2010, 11:01 PM
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hey guys i wan to install windows to my imac, but should i install the original 1 or pirated 1? window 7 or window xp which 1 do u guys prefer for doing autoCad and 3Ds Max? thanks
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May 25 2010, 09:54 AM
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No discussion on pirated stuff here... Go original.. Since you can afford an apple product a windows license shouldnt be too much problem right? I would suggest windows 7 through bootcamp...
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May 25 2010, 11:48 AM
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btw i need go for 32 or 64 bit? which 1 is better.. if i go for bootcamp then my mac will a bit more laggy? coz my imac spec is the 3.06Ghz with 4GB ram le.. and the graphic card is not too good also? thanks
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May 25 2010, 12:31 PM
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urmm dont think it will lag. it will be fine. but i am having trouble installing autocad and 3ds on my windows xp running on bootcamp. always something wrong with the activation part.
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May 25 2010, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(leeseng1990 @ May 25 2010, 11:48 AM) btw i need go for 32 or 64 bit? which 1 is better.. if i go for bootcamp then my mac will a bit more laggy? coz my imac spec is the 3.06Ghz with 4GB ram le.. and the graphic card is not too good also? thanks Rule of thumb for Windows 7: If you're not sure which, go 32bit. |
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May 25 2010, 06:10 PM
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Actally 64GB is much better for him as he has 4GB and 32 cant fully utilises the RAM... Just bear in mind that not all software supports 64 bit.. So make sure you find out all those softwares you use are 64 bit available and compatible before installing...
Bootcamp wont make your mac laggy as its run completely on windows using all the resources. So your processor/graphic card/RAM are all solely used by windows in bootcamp if you log into windows... 4GB RAM should be enough |
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May 25 2010, 06:36 PM
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oww oww..then about the AutoCAD again, which 1 should i prefer to install, i mean which year is better.. my uni is using 2007, so should i stick for it or going for better 1?i mean more latest vers.
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May 25 2010, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ May 25 2010, 06:10 PM) Actally 64GB is much better for him as he has 4GB and 32 cant fully utilises the RAM... Just bear in mind that not all software supports 64 bit.. So make sure you find out all those softwares you use are 64 bit available and compatible before installing... Hence the rule of thumb. |
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May 25 2010, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(leeseng1990 @ May 25 2010, 11:48 AM) btw i need go for 32 or 64 bit? which 1 is better.. if i go for bootcamp then my mac will a bit more laggy? coz my imac spec is the 3.06Ghz with 4GB ram le.. and the graphic card is not too good also? thanks 3.06 Ghz with 4gb ram is very good dy. i assume u're born in 1990 so u're using autocad for uni work? if yes then the GPU wont be a limitation. im doing engineering n i just run autocad in vmware QUOTE(leeseng1990 @ May 25 2010, 06:36 PM) oww oww..then about the AutoCAD again, which 1 should i prefer to install, i mean which year is better.. my uni is using 2007, so should i stick for it or going for better 1?i mean more latest vers. best way is to ask ur lecturer. for me i just follow what my uni uses (2002 |
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May 25 2010, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ May 25 2010, 08:26 PM) 3.06 Ghz with 4gb ram is very good dy. i assume u're born in 1990 so u're using autocad for uni work? if yes then the GPU wont be a limitation. im doing engineering n i just run autocad in vmware yup i'm born in 1990.. my nick name has show up my age lol.. i heard there is a mac vers. autoCAD right..best way is to ask ur lecturer. for me i just follow what my uni uses (2002 |
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May 25 2010, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(leeseng1990 @ May 25 2010, 08:59 PM) yup i'm born in 1990.. my nick name has show up my age lol.. i heard there is a mac vers. autoCAD right.. got....18 years ago there are alternatives like archiCAD and vectorworks.. but then industry-standard is industry-standard lah. same reason why we have powerpoint |
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May 25 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ May 25 2010, 09:20 PM) got....18 years ago but just release 1 wor.. i mean few days ago? 2010 or 2011 mac vers.. they said auto Cad come back to mac this year.. since last year i heard about it..lolthere are alternatives like archiCAD and vectorworks.. but then industry-standard is industry-standard lah. same reason why we have powerpoint |
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May 25 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(leeseng1990 @ May 25 2010, 09:27 PM) but just release 1 wor.. i mean few days ago? 2010 or 2011 mac vers.. they said auto Cad come back to mac this year.. since last year i heard about it..lol it was just announced, not release yet. autodesk.com dun have it http://usa.autodesk.com/products/mac-compatible-products |
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May 25 2010, 09:43 PM
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is it.. haha so so sorry..lol..so means that i still need to bootcamp =x
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May 25 2010, 11:38 PM
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Bootcamp is easy to setup as long as you have your windows CD... Just follow through the guidelines and you are good to go..
Furthermore you could also use it to play games =)... Not really a bad thing... Just have to restart everytime you wanna switch to windows OS =) |
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May 25 2010, 11:44 PM
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yup thats wad i found out in my fren's MBP..and i'm going to do so for my imac too..haha.. finally online games..haha
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May 26 2010, 02:23 AM
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bootcamp is awesome!
just installed cad and 3ds Max on my bootcamp. fixed the previous problem d, not works like a charm. *bliss! |
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May 26 2010, 02:57 AM
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since bootcamp is so awesome, there is no reason for me to say no =)
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May 26 2010, 10:57 AM
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try booting windows 7 in it, den you get the best of both worlds. SL and w7. |
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May 26 2010, 11:03 AM
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yup i will go for it..haha..like everyone having 2 world now? haha
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May 26 2010, 12:00 PM
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Actually dual booting is very beneficial but mostly and mainly is for gaming compared to other usage... Other usage can be performed using Parallel Desktop/VMWare as they can run parallel with Mac OSX... Of course they are extra costs =)... Boot camp is free as long as you have a windows license =)
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May 26 2010, 02:37 PM
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btw, parallel will slow down the speed right? i mean overall speed..ram and graphics..
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May 26 2010, 02:44 PM
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i used google sketchup with my mac.. result is NICE
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May 26 2010, 02:59 PM
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May 26 2010, 05:32 PM
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Yes parallel will share resources for the RAM/Processor/graphic with Mac OSX and definitely will slow down if you run those memory intensive programs..
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May 26 2010, 06:46 PM
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i had parallel before this but installed it after awhile and went for bootcamp instead. much more stable and reliable. i feel the drag of running two OS at once, when you're gonna b using one at a time. of cos it saves the hassle of restarting but it sure is much faster and you dont feel like you're burdening your mac.
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May 26 2010, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(llsphinxll @ May 26 2010, 06:46 PM) i had parallel before this but installed it after awhile and went for bootcamp instead. much more stable and reliable. i feel the drag of running two OS at once, when you're gonna b using one at a time. of cos it saves the hassle of restarting but it sure is much faster and you dont feel like you're burdening your mac. so there is a only disadvantage of bootcamp right, of restart and change between OS and windows..but still bootcamp is better than parallel..haha |
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May 26 2010, 09:43 PM
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question... for apps like autocad, 3ds max, sketchup... is it more CPU intensive than GPU intensive? lets say an i7+intelHD system vs coreduo+9600mGT... which one will run better? :S
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May 27 2010, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ May 26 2010, 09:43 PM) question... for apps like autocad, 3ds max, sketchup... is it more CPU intensive than GPU intensive? lets say an i7+intelHD system vs coreduo+9600mGT... which one will run better? :S imo i think autocad barely needs both cos its merely 2d lines, but if you are doing some intensive work den a faster processor might help. as for more graphic stuff like 3ds max and sketchup, were it needs to render etc, shud b more gpu intensive.i tried rendering the same thing on my dell xps but the results are pretty much the same. not that much of a difference actually. |
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May 28 2010, 02:24 PM
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mmm... autocad also got 3d eh.. hehe
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May 28 2010, 05:26 PM
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Yea Autocad has 3D and processor does play a part for Autocad... Basically GC and Processors are important if you are doing those mentioned... Faster processor = more computing power = faster calculation etc... Better GV = better graphic, sharper etc..
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May 28 2010, 09:15 PM
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so which is more important?
high end CPU + integrated GPU or average CPU + average dedicated GPU |
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i wud go for option no2 anyday - average CPU + high end GPU. the bomb!
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May 30 2010, 06:45 PM
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Depence too..
If you more towrds modelling in 3D, then the GPU will be most important, as you want to know the details and speed of the GPU as for previewing model at glance is important. E.g. Engineering, CAM modelling, Game simulation. If you are mostly handle the rendering part then the CPU shold be the priority as the end result rendering is the key part what you are producing. E.g. Architecural & Interior Illustration, Animation video. As for software, there's actually 2 modes of previewing can be see on screen via Hardware (OpenGL, HEIDI and Direct3D) and Software (mostly CPU intense) |
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oic. so real-time previewing: GPU. rendering: CPU. am i right?
thx for the excellent explanation |
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May 31 2010, 02:59 PM
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lets show some renderings ppl! im sure got some pro people here.
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Gonna wait until I master the Vray..
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question...ia aki-CAD is same?
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Jun 13 2010, 10:50 PM
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Jun 14 2010, 08:13 PM
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Jun 15 2010, 03:22 PM
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^ why do you need to buy? what are u trying to do?
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Jun 19 2010, 03:39 PM
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that's what i want to know..is it expensive like autocad for windows? cost thousands of ringgit..
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Jun 19 2010, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Jun 19 2010, 03:39 PM) i dunno how much it cost, but this is the malaysian purchase page from their website. you can try contact the number listed if you're interestedhttp://www.graphisoft.com/purchase/asia_pa...c/malaysia.html |
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Most of the 3D software is cost u quite hefty. As Cinema4D cost u about RM3.5k now, but compared to 3DS Max which cost you RM10k, then what should you go about?
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jun 19 2010, 08:03 PM) Most of the 3D software is cost u quite hefty. As Cinema4D cost u about RM3.5k now, but compared to 3DS Max which cost you RM10k, then what should you go about? i think we all know how to solve this, we are MALAYSIANs. |
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Yeah...u know ah..
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Jun 22 2010, 03:04 PM
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i know it..but don't how to do it...can someone teach me :pitty face:
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Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM
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i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space.
i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it. the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe. any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads. EDIT: i'm currently using 1st generation imac (white) that came with the Tiger OS. This post has been edited by eeoyr: Jul 5 2010, 05:36 PM |
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Jun 28 2010, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM) i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space. Can you source your info in regards to MBP i7s overheating?i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it. the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe. any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads. You should be fine getting an i5 or i7, depending on your budget. You'll be able to run your programs via Bootcamp, as you've experienced, although I would suggest that you upgrade to Windows 7 for stability and security reasons. Dells are okay if price is a concern. Just consider weight, bulk, battery and heat when purchasing. |
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Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 28 2010, 05:40 PM) Can you source your info in regards to MBP i7s overheating? Well i have been reading the reviews online regarding the overheat issues from websites that does new gadget product testings. so i went to the mac dealer shop to ask for more informations. some are saying it has overheat problems and some are saying its not true unless i use heavy flash programmes. You should be fine getting an i5 or i7, depending on your budget. You'll be able to run your programs via Bootcamp, as you've experienced, although I would suggest that you upgrade to Windows 7 for stability and security reasons. Dells are okay if price is a concern. Just consider weight, bulk, battery and heat when purchasing. my sister bought a DELL XPS for normal usage and since then she's been repairing it non-stop. that's why i question the quality of it. i was just wondering is it worth to invest on a high-end MBP cause i am planning to customise it to 8GB, 500GB 7200rpm if i'm getting it. don't want to end-up with great dissapointment again and i run bootcamp on imac so i think it won't be a problem since desktops are always more powerful than laptops. so i am worried that it can't handle my workload like how a desktop would. This post has been edited by eeoyr: Jun 28 2010, 05:52 PM |
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Jun 29 2010, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM) Well i have been reading the reviews online regarding the overheat issues from websites that does new gadget product testings. so i went to the mac dealer shop to ask for more informations. some are saying it has overheat problems and some are saying its not true unless i use heavy flash programmes. If you're running games and Flash video or compiling large video files, the laptop will get hot. Fact of life, so far. Links to these sites you mention?QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM) my sister bought a DELL XPS for normal usage and since then she's been repairing it non-stop. that's why i question the quality of it. I'd trade the 500GB HDD for Hi-res screen (considering your field of study) and get an external firewire Hard drive. But, that's just me.i was just wondering is it worth to invest on a high-end MBP cause i am planning to customise it to 8GB, 500GB 7200rpm if i'm getting it. don't want to end-up with great dissapointment again 3-2-1 Backup 3 copies (1 original, 2 backups) 2 different media 1 off-site QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 05:50 PM) and i run bootcamp on imac so i think it won't be a problem since desktops are always more powerful than laptops. so i am worried that it can't handle my workload like how a desktop would. That depends on the specs of the laptop and desktop. |
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Jun 29 2010, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 29 2010, 08:47 AM) If you're running games and Flash video or compiling large video files, the laptop will get hot. Fact of life, so far. Links to these sites you mention? hmm. i'm really crackin' my head on this. anyway thanks for the suggestions!I'd trade the 500GB HDD for Hi-res screen (considering your field of study) and get an external firewire Hard drive. But, that's just me. 3-2-1 Backup 3 copies (1 original, 2 backups) 2 different media 1 off-site That depends on the specs of the laptop and desktop. will look into it =) |
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Jun 30 2010, 12:01 AM
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i agree with Ojimaru. the high-res screen is a good upgrade. or, if u really want to avoid repairs etc, buy ACPP.
about desktops being more powerful than laptops, dun forget that imac is using laptop components. u didnt mention which imac are u referring to, but i have a feeling the i7 MBP would be faster |
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Jul 1 2010, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jun 28 2010, 04:59 PM) i am an architecture student who uses an imac and windows together. I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop for 6K something and after 2 years the mother board and graphic card got burnt. I was pratically going boinkers cause i was rushing for my final project. so i took my imac and installed bootcamp running on Windows XP. So far so good. no crashes and runs very smoothly but lately its running out of memory space. hey i know what you mean. was using a toshiba satellite not too long ago, and it failed on me too. currently i am using both mbp with i5 and c2d. i run similar programs as you do (autoCad/3ds Max/SketchUp) and so far it seems to be fine. about the overheating problem, the left side of the laptop do get hot after awhile and the fan may run on high speed, but i find that pretty normal and it does not effect the performance of the laptop. i suggest using it in a fully air conditioned room or have a fan blowing directly to the laptop. i want to get a new laptop since i'm continuing my degree soon. after my bad experience with my toshiba, i don't really trust normal windows based laptops(the time for them to check is like forever) anymore since my imac saved my ass last minute. i am thinking on getting the new MBP with i7 but i heard there are overheating issues with it. the softwares i'm gonna be using is AutoCAD, Rhino, 3dsmax, Sketchup and adobe. any suggestions? cause a lot of people are telling me to go for DELL or thinkpads. |
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QUOTE(llsphinxll @ Jul 1 2010, 07:18 PM) hey i know what you mean. was using a toshiba satellite not too long ago, and it failed on me too. currently i am using both mbp with i5 and c2d. i run similar programs as you do (autoCad/3ds Max/SketchUp) and so far it seems to be fine. about the overheating problem, the left side of the laptop do get hot after awhile and the fan may run on high speed, but i find that pretty normal and it does not effect the performance of the laptop. i suggest using it in a fully air conditioned room or have a fan blowing directly to the laptop. Thanks for sharing your toshiba experience cause apparently i'm being accused as the laptop spoiler (that is why i am being a bit paranoid on getting a reliable laptop are you using parallels, vmware or bootcamp? the only hesitation on me from getting a mbp is the autoCAD part. cause it will be quite troublesome to have to switch back and forth when i'm working on 3D and ammending the plans (maybe it only applies to 3dsmax cause its one hecka polyline crazee the guy from the mac store suggests that i use bootcamp(for the workload) instead of parallels or vmware. btw i tried downloading the mac version of autoCAD but too bad it keeps on crashing so can't really tell how is it. wonder when is it gonna get released... |
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jul 5 2010, 05:31 PM) Thanks for sharing your toshiba experience cause apparently i'm being accused as the laptop spoiler Are you sure there's a autocad version for MacOS X? So far i knew there's only Autocad for MacOS 7.(that is why i am being a bit paranoid on getting a reliable laptop are you using parallels, vmware or bootcamp? the only hesitation on me from getting a mbp is the autoCAD part. cause it will be quite troublesome to have to switch back and forth when i'm working on 3D and ammending the plans (maybe it only applies to 3dsmax cause its one hecka polyline crazee the guy from the mac store suggests that i use bootcamp(for the workload) instead of parallels or vmware. btw i tried downloading the mac version of autoCAD but too bad it keeps on crashing so can't really tell how is it. wonder when is it gonna get released... |
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jul 5 2010, 05:59 PM) oh...sorry, i don't know exactly what OS it runs. but i'm using leopard OS. not sure about all these. you can try searching for Sledgehammer autocad though. don't know whether its just a preview version or what cause it keeps on crashing. |
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Jul 5 2010, 10:22 PM
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the Sledgehammer isnt officially out yet. that's why still lots of bugs to get fixed
eeoyr if you're planning to get parallels or vmware anyway (for other purposes besides autocad etc), maybe u shud try using those software on VM first and see if the performance is okay for you. if it is, great |
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Jul 8 2010, 02:46 PM
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Looks like after the official release of AutoCAD for Mac, then my transition to Mac is 100% now, and no need for virtualaization of windows
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QUOTE(eeoyr @ Jul 5 2010, 05:31 PM) Thanks for sharing your toshiba experience cause apparently i'm being accused as the laptop spoiler yeah i doubt its out yet. and do use bootcamp, cos using parallels or vmware fusion is not appropriate. mayb for autocad ok la, but 3ds max, you're gonna take ages to render or mayb to even rotate the model. cos its just a laptop. (that is why i am being a bit paranoid on getting a reliable laptop are you using parallels, vmware or bootcamp? the only hesitation on me from getting a mbp is the autoCAD part. cause it will be quite troublesome to have to switch back and forth when i'm working on 3D and ammending the plans (maybe it only applies to 3dsmax cause its one hecka polyline crazee the guy from the mac store suggests that i use bootcamp(for the workload) instead of parallels or vmware. btw i tried downloading the mac version of autoCAD but too bad it keeps on crashing so can't really tell how is it. wonder when is it gonna get released... |
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Jul 13 2010, 06:23 PM
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But I still wonder why using 3DMax, while on the market there's plenty of better software out there
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jul 13 2010, 06:23 PM) what other software do you use bro? well i use 3ds max bcos combined with vray, i think it produces the best results. well thats imho anyway. i tried a few others but the results are just not as crisp as i want. so decided to stick with 3ds max.cant really show my works cos its under company's right. will try and dig up some old renders. |
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Jul 14 2010, 03:47 PM
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I'm using Cinema 4D..last time with original renderer but since Vray is now available on Cinema 4D I'm also moving forward too..
Unless you're involved with product design, then I feel Sketchup with Vray should be adequate.. |
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Jul 14 2010, 10:44 PM
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hows the end product of cinema 4d + vray? mind putting some 'contoh'?
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Jul 15 2010, 12:47 AM
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My sample as below..not yet fully utilize all parameter on the vray..still learning to get the HDRI..
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Jul 22 2010, 12:31 AM
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Jul 22 2010, 01:58 PM
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Very detail..but still for me I don't like the 3DMax mapping..too weird..
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Jul 22 2010, 10:37 PM
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most of the furnitures and materials are custom made. this is done with the mbp with the 9600m GC. hence it took awhile to finish this render on such high reso.
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Jul 23 2010, 12:07 AM
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i envy u guys know how to do this stuff
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Jul 23 2010, 11:20 AM
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llsphinxll,
SInce the Autocad will be available for Mac then maybe 3DS Max will follow then..so not much taxation on your MBP. dvlzplayground, It just a matter of keen interest and spend some money+time for the crash course.. |
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Jul 25 2010, 12:54 PM
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Jul 26 2010, 11:08 AM
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Good Vray la u..can teach me some ka?
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Jul 26 2010, 07:50 PM
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actually building the model is not the difficult part. complicated models can b done in about an hour, but altering the materials and lighting is the one that kills time. oh and rendering.
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Jul 27 2010, 11:22 AM
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Yup..that's why need to learn from you the lighting..huhu
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Jul 28 2010, 08:30 PM
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haha are you working at some firm or something? or are you still a student?
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Jul 29 2010, 12:48 AM
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Dont know if this is the right thread to ask but i'm gonna be studying engineering by the end of this year and was thinking of getting a MBP.
Here's the problem. I've asked around the seniors at the uni i'll be attending and found out that the main software used is SolidWorks. and apparently its built to run on Windows OS only. My question is: Will running windows on a mac via bootcamp be a viable option? (if no, why?) thx! |
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Jul 29 2010, 08:01 AM
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i've gone through foundation engineering to 3rd yr degree with two MBPs no prob
so yes, bootcamp is a viable option. most of the time i just run autocad in a virtual machine oh i'll also recommend u to use office 2007/2010 instead of 2008 mac version bcuz apart from formatting, sometimes it manages to ruin equations too. |
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jul 29 2010, 08:01 AM) i've gone through foundation engineering to 3rd yr degree with two MBPs no prob Just wondering. kinda a noobie question but still better be safe than sorry. haha. when using bootcamp to install windows on the mac i can use any windows CD right? as in is there a special "windows for mac" version or is it just the normal "windows 7 home edition" that u can pick up at the store that we normally install on our PCs? so yes, bootcamp is a viable option. most of the time i just run autocad in a virtual machine oh i'll also recommend u to use office 2007/2010 instead of 2008 mac version bcuz apart from formatting, sometimes it manages to ruin equations too. This post has been edited by -|JuStIn|-: Jul 29 2010, 03:06 PM |
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QUOTE(-|JuStIn|- @ Jul 29 2010, 03:06 PM) Just wondering. kinda a noobie question but still better be safe than sorry. haha. when using bootcamp to install windows on the mac i can use any windows CD right? as in is there a special "windows for mac" version or is it just the normal "windows 7 home edition" that u can pick up at the store that we normally install on our PCs? Yup..any windows CD will be fine. For you just nned to run the bootcamp assistant in order to start installing windows. In the assistant will determine your windows space for the hard drive. Then later you will have options to boot either in windows or MacOS X |
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Jul 29 2010, 12:41 PM) im actually a student. i learnt the most when i was interning. i sat next to the 3ds max sifu and completed the whole project on my own with the sifu directing me how. that way is the most effective way to learn. well you can always model at sketch up and import it into 3ds max to render i think. QUOTE(-|JuStIn|- @ Jul 29 2010, 03:06 PM) Just wondering. kinda a noobie question but still better be safe than sorry. haha. when using bootcamp to install windows on the mac i can use any windows CD right? as in is there a special "windows for mac" version or is it just the normal "windows 7 home edition" that u can pick up at the store that we normally install on our PCs? hahhha. 'those' CDs ah. i think shud b able to. |
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I am running bootcamp and the program has run very smoothly for about 4 months now. I just did my first renderings yesterday (usually work in 2D) and the renderings went very smoothly but now doing anything in the program at all i.e. zooming, moving window, etc. has about a 10 second lag time per command. Is there something that is looping in my RAM that is causing this change in performance? I am running the 32-bit which after reading several articles the 64-bit is better. I have to believe there is a simpler solution than reloading my OS and AutoCAD to run the 64-bit.
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Sep 4 2010, 07:28 PM
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Autocd is coming to mac in October
You might wan to wait for that |
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Sep 5 2010, 10:40 AM
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Wow can't wait more longer
Nway wanna show you the current AutoCAD I'm running on Mac, only AutoCAD R14 via CrossOver. The latest seems not working with the Crossover ![]() This post has been edited by b48753: Sep 5 2010, 04:54 PM |
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Hi, got a question...
what is the system requirement to run 3dsmax? I'm going to study interior design soon, and I don't know whether I have to buy a new computer or not. Here are my specs: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz 3GB RAM 160 GB hard drive Ati Mobility Radeon HD 3400 (256 MB) I apologize for this not being a Mac-related question. |
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QUOTE(Genexil @ Nov 29 2010, 02:06 PM) Hi, got a question... Check min requirement for different versions. what is the system requirement to run 3dsmax? I'm going to study interior design soon, and I don't know whether I have to buy a new computer or not. Here are my specs: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz 3GB RAM 160 GB hard drive Ati Mobility Radeon HD 3400 (256 MB) I apologize for this not being a Mac-related question. http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/in...112&id=13571366 But generally for studies with your current stated spec is fine. Use what you have, as work optimization is very important But personally, i prefer to have a spec with NVIDIA cards.. but thats just me. |
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Ok, thanks alot! ^^
Added on November 30, 2010, 6:30 pmOh, crap... gotta get new OS. Mine's just Vista Home Basic SP2, it requires Vista Business SP2/Win 7 Professional/ Win XP Professional SP2... Alamak This post has been edited by Genexil: Nov 30 2010, 06:30 PM |
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i think running the 3ds max wont b that much of a problem, its just the rendering. rendering really needs a good processor and a decent gc. on my i5 mbp, it also takes quite awhile to render a good decent shot.
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Today I found a software that can replace AutoCAD for Mac machines..it's called DraftSight..made by Dassault Systemes, which also made CATIA and Solidworks software..and the best thing is, it's for FREE
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Dec 16 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Dec 14 2010, 02:29 PM) Today I found a software that can replace AutoCAD for Mac machines..it's called DraftSight..made by Dassault Systemes, which also made CATIA and Solidworks software..and the best thing is, it's for FREE what do u mean replace autocad?![]() Below is the link for the software. After install you need to register for full use.. http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ its command same as autocad? tactic? |
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Dec 17 2010, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(blinkblink88 @ Dec 16 2010, 05:46 PM) I means replacing my current AutoCAD R14 (run via CrossOver) I'm using now for Draft Sight.It's runs native on MacOS XThe best part is most of 2D command and simple 3D modelling (it has command line And remember, AutoCAD for Mac requirement is very demanding, which my Mac Pro 2008 can't support it.. QUOTE AutoCAD for Mac System Requirements Apple® Mac® Pro 4,1 or later; MacBook® Pro 5,1 or later (MacBook Pro 6,1 or later recommended); iMac® 8,1 or later (iMac 11,1 or later recommended); Mac® mini 3,1 or later (Mac mini 4,1 or later recommended); MacBook Air® 2,1 or later; MacBook® 5,1 or later (MacBook 7,1 or later recommended) Mac OS® X v10.6.4 or later; Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later 64-bit Intel® processor 3 GB of RAM (4 GB recommended) 2.5 GB free disk space for download and installation (3 GB recommended) All graphics cards on supported hardware 1,280 x 800 display with true color (1,600 x 1,200 with true color recommended) U.S., U.K., or France keyboard layout Apple® Mouse, Apple Magic Mouse, Magic Trackpad, MacBook® Pro trackpad, or Microsoft®-compliant mouse. Mac OS X-compliant printer This post has been edited by b48753: Dec 17 2010, 11:02 AM |
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Dec 17 2010, 03:50 PM
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Dec 17 2010, 06:36 PM
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1,352 posts Joined: Mar 2008 From: Kuala Lumpur/Serdang/Sg. Buloh,sometimes Serian |
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Aug 13 2014, 10:20 AM
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sorry guys may i get your opinion ASAP on my below questions?
my office is looking to buy up to 10 new computers. we are an architecture firm the question is should we go for apple or windows pc? what are the pros and cons? we mainly use autocad and skecthup anyone here with experience, pls dont mind to share? thank you very much This post has been edited by Petre: Aug 13 2014, 10:21 AM |
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Sep 5 2019, 11:25 AM
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AutoCAD for Mac and AutoCAD LT for Mac 2015 and earlier are not compatible with macOS 10.13.x (High Sierra). AutoCAD versions 2016 and later are, although the latest updates for the products need to be applied
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