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diablokun
post Jul 23 2009, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Jul 23 2009, 02:39 PM)
My question is about does age and metabolism plays a factor in it and does anybody succeeded despite of it.

Regardless, I will try to work hard to achieve it.  flex.gif
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there's a tonne of succesfull stories at bb.com...go check the fat to fit transformations thread...dunno about the metabolism tho, but if you're below 60, just work it out and the victory is yours...it's only the matter of time...

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post Jul 24 2009, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(E|dan @ Jul 24 2009, 06:58 AM)
hey guys, to all the old peeps here im pretty sure u all know me...to the new guys...wazzup..
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wazzup...r u playing with the iron now ??

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post Aug 3 2009, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(reddice @ Aug 3 2009, 09:16 PM)
and i ask the heaviest he can bench..he said 115 kg..

but he is not ripped and can be consider fat....im very amazed...i ve seen them push it with his dad..but can be consider 2 people pushing...but t his time alone....100kg..8 rep...damn....

im gonna try 60kg tomorow..been stuck at 55kg around 2 weeks smile.gif
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it's normal la bro stucked for 2 weeks...go slow...how do you count those 55kg btw ?? 20kg plates x 2 + oly bar ?? same with me lor...been stuck more than a month edi...haha

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post Aug 4 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(20052006 @ Aug 3 2009, 10:04 PM)
eh i thought the barbell in those gym like celebrity fitness is 20kg ? How heavy is the smith machine barbell ? and wat about the ezbar ? sorry still newbie =(...hope u guy won't call me ballbangers for not googleing...i tried my best to google but only found out that oly barbell weighs around 20kg...
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there is more than 1 type of oly bar...got 4 feet up to 7 feet...the standard olympic bar used in the sports tournament is 7 feet ++ and roughly weighs 20kg... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(reddice @ Aug 3 2009, 11:19 PM)
nope..55kg..i count erm.....2 (45lbs) plate + 2 (10lbs) plate + oly bar
i usually just count the weight....i think lbs convert to kilo around 55 kilo kot...

and the guy i said..just the weight....not including the bar since i dont know how much is the bar actually smile.gif

i think im getting stronger...since i just started at 1st jun 2009...but my benching a bit slow to improve.....compare to my deadlift...
but still envy those guy who can deadlift 150++ kg..huish.....very hard....now at 115kg (plate weight only)....i just love it....

..here,they dont play deadlift often..and i do think im the only one..or maybe among the few that deadlift...

play hard but still those love handle dont go away..hahahahha....

p/s : seremban people..if u deadlifting alone...i wanna join.... smile.gif
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2 [45lbs] + 2 [10lbs] + oly bar [15lbs ?] ~ 2 [20.5kg] + 2 [4.5kg] + oly bar [6.8kg] = 56.8kg ..approximately la...i think, it's normal to have good poundages increase in deadlift compare to benching because deadlift involve more muscles group...

love handle, you do side bend la bro...standing and hanging one...later, you do the stretching (dunno the name la lol) like what aamir khan did for his ghajini movie...nice woor thumbup.gif
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p/s : me likes squat better than deadlift huhuhu


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post Aug 4 2009, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Aug 4 2009, 01:11 PM)
Fat is useless man. Some of the regulars here who did this more than 1 year+, but when the take off their clothes, the fats are still there. They can do chin up, dips and etc. But body shape, toning is not there, other word = fugly.

Like what most people do, you go to gym definitely you want to gain muscles and be strong, but what is your long term goal? You want to look fugly like that forever, even if you can bench press 100kg or 150kg?

Now I see them doing cardio almost everyday, but to no avail, no difference at all. They should cut first before bulking. The bad side is the fats around their body is too much, BF around 30%. If they cut now, they are going to be kucirat again.

Some of them have big calves, but when you look at it, you can see there are fats around the calves area.

You want to be a lean big beast, not a fat ass beast.
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not all gym's rat want to look toned, lean, ripped, cracked etc bro...some of 'em just hittin the gym for the sake of lifting the iron, exercising and sweating out...you should respect that...

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post Aug 5 2009, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 4 2009, 06:25 PM)
I don't know why you guys are so critical of Zeist. Well OK, he does not show too much tact, but his views are not particularly exotic.
being critical ?? there's always a reason behind something...
QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 4 2009, 06:25 PM)
I think many of you with high bodyfat percentages are somewhat insecure about this fact.
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LOL...never even think about that...working out has always been a passion for me and my friends...we are fat ppl with high bf % tongue.gif not muscular, not ripped, not tonne.....and we don't even care what ppl think...we'll just love to lift the iron so others, they can STFU and GTH ... nod.gif

and FYI greylegion, ppl here being aggresive for a reason...

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post Aug 21 2009, 05:51 PM

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marketing hype is a must aite ?? how can they make selling without it ?? and each product has different tolerance towards the user...even MuscleTech's product work wonders for some ppl...just that, it's expensive when compared...i think this is same with attires...nike sports shirt is a bit expensive compared to brooks or admiral's even the quality is the same....you're paying for it's name actually....

but hey, if you want it badly, just buy lor...it's your call...just no need to be too defensive or offensive towards others...

just my 2 cents....
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post Aug 21 2009, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 21 2009, 09:24 PM)
Yeah I think that kotmj was just imitating MR TEAM MUSCLETECH.

Come on man. For a moment I thought that all of u went goo goo.

Y so serious?  biggrin.gif
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post Aug 23 2009, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 22 2009, 11:33 PM)
What I've gathered from reading here and there concerning creatine is this:
1) There are 2 phases; the loading phase and the after-loading phase.

2) The loading phase lasts for 5 to 7 days during which you consume about 20 g of creatine in a day.

3) During the loading phase, there are 2 ways of consuming creatine; 4 servings of 5g or 2 servings of 10g (I prefer to consume 10g first thing in the morning with glucolin and then another 10g post workout also with glucolin)

4) Upon completion of your loading phase, take 10g of creatine everyday (On workout days, take it post workout. On non-workout days, first thing in the morning)

5) I would do this for 2 months and then stop for a month and then continue with the loading phase once more and the cycle goes on and on.

6) Consumption of creatine with fast-acting carbs is essential to cause an insulin spike so that the creatine would be quickly carried to your muscles.

7) About 30 minutes after consuming creatine with fast-acting carbs, consume whey (same thing goes for your morning shake).

8) About an hour after that, have your solid meal.
*Some articles recommend taking creatine pre and post workout but I don't know why creatine is needed pre workout so...meh..
** It is also possible to do without the loading phase but research has shown that those who choose to load have better gains (not sure in what sense but it could be strength or lean mass)

Hope this helps a lil'.  smile.gif
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good info bro...would like to add something...

QUOTE(Robert DiMaggio)
When Is The Best Time To Take Creatine?

For best results, on training days, take creatine after your workout. It will not make you nauseous and is best taken at this time in order to replenish lost stores. If you wish to take more on a training day (i.e 10 grams),then take half pre-workout and remaining half post-workout.

How Much Should I Take?

Recommended dosages are as follows:

    * Less than or equal to 140lbs = 5-6grams per day is maintenance
    * 141lbs to 168lbs = 6-7.5 grams per day is maintenance
    * 169lbs to 199lbs = 8 grams per day is maintenance
    * 200lbs to 242lbs = 8-10 grams per day is maintenance
    * 242lb+ = 10-12 grams per day

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 23 2009, 11:50 AM)
i think mamat big cat in bb.com did a physical test on bb'ers who drank creatine with orange juice at a certain period of time and measured the gains in muscle mass after 8-10 weeks

to sum up uhuk-uhuk's summary, so, to save all the hassle, for creatine cycle, start with the loading phase and later the post loading, and if malas just campur with whey protein or drink whey 30 minutes after taking the creatine (u used glucolin eh? i'd prefer sunquick or ribena)
after loading phase, for non-workout days, drink creatine upon waking up
whereas workout days, drink 10g post workout
rasanya high-fructose components (e.g. fruit juice) should be avoided because fructose does not elicit a significant insulin response, aite ??

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post Aug 23 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Aug 23 2009, 08:47 PM)
To those of you who asked about creatine, I strongly recommend you read this article:

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article..._up_on_creatine
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thanks bro...good article tp add things up...

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 23 2009, 10:14 PM)
thanks man
it just confirms my understanding
it didnt say anything about fructose/sucrose/glucose and orange juice is just a fine product to create a soluble environment for creatine similar like nay other juices unlike the common beliefs
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bro, about that...i think, it's a minor details whereas wether you take it together with dextrose, glucose or fructose, it's acceptable and will still function as per normal and optimum...
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post Aug 30 2009, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 30 2009, 02:54 AM)
but then again dude, not everyone's the same
some people cardio and diet pun tak hilang a single thing on their carcass
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like me
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how long you've been doing that bro ?? should at least lost some weight right ?? even a mere 1kg is still some achievement...

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