1st of all
i was disappointed
i tot gharam will appear n save setsuna when ribbons too over powered for setsuna

setsuna was charging all the while when battle wif ribbons wif 00

gharam seems like a gay n love to stick wif billy
unlike the legendary CHAR who would battle for GF wif amuro

reborn gundam -.-
really reminds me of gun cannon when it's called reborn cannon

n gundam 0
how the hell would CB left it in the space!?!?!?

indeed ribbons hav world record of swaping GN drive from gundams -.-

marina means nth at all in the end
not even a kiss wif setsuna

n setsuna stil fighting in the space heading jupiter

let;s see what the movie in 2010 can tell us
o rather juz like fafner's movie
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and about tierra
is he gay o what o sunrise gay?
y put a naked guy instead of naked gal!?
fxxx
it;s kinda terrible when watching

quote from RCrex:


i must say ... i'm extremely happy to saw someone watching anime with logistic thinking.... what i wan to say is that I'm totally agreed with you Mr RCrex ....and really really nice to meet you specially in this forum, lowyat.net....

above all bout what had been said by mr RC, i have a few bug bout the story i wan to add in this latest gundam00 (the ending of 00)......SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY NOT RIGHT BOUT THE BATTLE between setsuna and the final boss who control the final boss gundam .....

around 12:32 minute in the movie, where both, setsuna and the final boss,  after struggle in a close battle combat, the final boss manage to chop down one of the setsuna gundam's arm. Then the boss took one of the original gundam engine from setsuna's gundam....

my question is : why the Boss gundam didn't kill setsuna when he took the engine from setsuna? when he took the engine, setsuna stil unconscious / pengsan, at that time, the boss should easily kill setsuna at that moment....

BUT HE DIDN'T !!! the boss gundam is so kind heart !!! no kill!!  takde bunuh ?!!?  how come ??

instead, he go take engine, then went off... what the ?!?!

if he kill setsuna at that time, no need face so many problem what....he can just simply kill setsuna during setsuna pengsan, then go change engine to another gundam oso can what.....

if someone say the boss at that time no weapon or what so cannot kill setsuna...plz la...the boss stil got a complete left arm which stil can take out the and hold the original gundam engine...if it's hand stil can do all those stuff , he should have no problem killing setsuna while setsuna pengsan...

gundam00, actually, is an animation with a great story background/universe , but the battle was moving from bad to worst...
one good example are those scene where two particular enemy, pointing a gun to each other, then start talking... it's ok if they want to talk during battle, but stand there, point gun to their enemy,then  talk, talk, and talk?! this is an stupid action in battle, and it's not cool at all.... what should they really do was SHOOT 1st, then only if they wan to talk, talk...or talk and shoot at the same time....... this kind of battle, pointing gun and talk cock , with no battle during the talk is totally ridicules....

Dude....why do you even watch anime if you complain these things....    Might as well complain why the whole world speaking Japanese? (is it Japanese is the universal language even Middle Eastern ppl can speak Japanese?) Or maybe complain tak logik that Patrick and Marie didn't die despite getting blow up in the suits? Its called fiction for a reason. Imagine how dry it is if Setsuna just silently shoot Ribbonz with one shot and Ribbonz will quietly die instead of having a "speech" before he blow up, boss fight ended. I guess that's what you wanted?

Rather than complain about the "typical anime stuff" i rather complain about the plot and how some characters got shafted like Wang Liu Min.
So you're basing your "nope i don't think so" only on the fact that the 00 is overpowered? No other comments on why you came to this conclusion?

Personally I felt 00 had a clear direction on where it wanted to go with the story, just that maybe the direction didn't go so well. They knew the destination, but they chose wrong way to get there and end up wasting time with alot of things that weren't important. In SEED-D, they don't even know the destination, or using what to get there so end up with "wtf" ending.   

That's my humble opinion.

Those are weakness of that anime. If you just wanna pretend that you did not see the weakness and still wanna say that anime is good. Did you mean those bugs are good as well? The Japanese thing, it is totally not necessary because it just wanna let us know about the story, the stroy line will not be affected even if they say mandarin, cantonese. The creator made this bug in the first place, why don't the creator just made a way to keep both of them alive, but avoid the explosion? I am pretty sure there are still other way to keep both of them without the explosion. If they die, then the story after that will be changed completely. Why they want to create a situation where both of them should die but they are still alive? it looks cool? I don;t think so, it just make the anime bad. It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, you ask stranger on a street to give you his money and they fo what you said. You wanna call this fiction for a reason? it is ridiculous for me.

this is just my humble opinion as well

Did I said SEED or SEED D is very good or something like that? or did I say SEED D doesn't have any bug like this one? I you read my post carefully you will not ask question like this. SEED and SEED D is ridiculous as well, ya the part where explosion happen and Kira and Athrun always live.
Jeez, I really don't know what you are thinking. Once I made comment about OO, you, yeah you, the flame bait guy start to treat me like some sort of anti 00. If you are really a fan of gundam, just accept that the explosion thing is a bug, ya, a bug which happened in almost all gundam series. Even if the bug happened in almost all series, it is still a bug. As I stated above, the ending is not any better than SEED D with a few reasons which I think is enough for a TIE. If you want to discuss the weakness of SEED, I feel free to discuss it with you as well since there are bugs in SEED and SEED D. Is it so hard to accept weaknesses of an anime?

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Added on March 31, 2009, 7:44 pm
Universal feeling doesn't exist, especially for anime like gundam. Make a poll and you will see the result
00>SEED
00=SEED
00<SEED
I am sure every person have different views.

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Added on March 31, 2009, 7:54 pm

I am impressed. You like something like this
""It is like in a anime, the story setting is in normal world without any kind of psychic power, you ask stranger on a street to give you his money and they fo what you said. ""

Who do you think you are asking other not to watch anime? Or you think that everyone can only talk something good about anime but not the weakness. Then why are you making a statement like this 00>SD. Or you think that you are the only one who has the right to judge which anime is good and which anime is bad?

why mecha can move so fast in space or why when they shoot lasers etc why got sound in space when it should be quiet?
move so fast in space thing, I dun really understand gundam technology. If you know all about the technology, why dun you juz create a gundam as well? laser got sound is for entertaining purpose, it doesn't affect the storyline at all whether the laser got sound or not.

Dear Mr Quazacolt:

saying something as above quoted is really rude .... his just trying to bring out a discussion of comparison between 00 and destiny (you tot everyone like to flame?), and seriously i don't think there's anything wrong with said by mr wolfx ...
that's mean actually your agreed that the gundam 00 quality does go lower than an anime which came out 10 year ago huh ?
so you mean his so obsessed until he left his unconscious enemy, taking the original engine, turn his back, go all the way to his base then suddenly bump on the older gundam, change engine, then went back to look for setsuna ,while from the start he ignore all this fast that :....
-actually his the one who stay conscious/1st one regain his consciousness  after the explosion, ...
-his gundam was in much better condition than setsuna's gundam, ...
.....DIDN'T kill setsuna but yet going after the engine is able to be explained by telling me that : "oh...his obssesed" ? ...huh...kids nowadays........

in a forum, we discuss.... agreed or disagreed, we state out our reason and we explain it....
saying something like " oh , is like that behh..." or "this is this la..." doesn't really explain what you trying to say....
and please, i know what is an anime, that's why we discuss it here, in this forum....try not to tell me what is an anime or sound out such naive reply as its clearly show that your not respecting others opinion....
no....we wont remove "anime" ...where you get the idea that only the Japanese are the only one who made and creating animation?
unless you state your reply something like this, i believe it will made your sentence sound more "proper" : "....we pretty much remove "quality-ed anime" ....."
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above all,  ....

Regardless of what, if i take 00 S1 into contention, i still rank 00 is way better than the gundams i watched so far, like seed, seed-d (big piece of p**p sh*t , gundam x, gundam wing ) but still i prefer MS 08th team. Perhaps i need to try to watch more UC gundams.

The reason why I ranked 00 well compared to seed because
- there were no recycled scenes, mainly all the battle action scenes were flesh. Unlike seed
- No clipshow ep, maybe there 1 in 00 s1 but very smartly done. In seed, there clipshow every 13 eps
-  Better character development for some characters compared to seed. But still not perfect but i fine with it.
- The action scene is way way better than seed. Wherelse in seed u have godmode gundam, in 00 at least lockon battles were very well done & smart.
- There is strategy involved among CB rather than "i m god" in seed. But their strategy is still inferior if you compare code geass.
- More emotional scenes in OO, ie character death that really can bring a tear drop from your eyes. In seed, its more like kira crying than the viewers

Well maybe seed has one advantage over 00, which is having a useful female lead where in 00 the female lead is totally a facepalm.

00 started slowly in season 1 but towards ep12 onwards to almost the end of 00 s2 things are progressing well. Until setsuna is a innovator and this ending, it degraded the series alittle. To me, setsuna is a lame character lead but the show stealer is definery goes to lockon stratos (both v1 & v2). I bet this anime will suck without him.

So overall 00 for me is so far the best AC gundam series so far but i will not put gundam 00 as the best gundam series as i have not watched the other gundam series yet.

Wow, now you want to focus on the word bug instead of the explosion. I don't care what it is called, a bug or whatever, the explosion happened and both survive, why? If there is really no chance for them to survive, why the creator made that scene?
I can comment on any part of the anime, I don't see any problem for making comments. You say, comment on the explosion is wrong? why? I am not the one who start to comment on the explosion though.
So, you wanna say that Gundam 00 is the best gundam series and it doesn't have any flaw? Every animation has its own weakness, you can accept when people say something good about 00 but you cant accept someone who stated the weakness of 00. So, if you are a gundam fan, why don't you just accept the weakness of the 00 , not just 00,  weakness of any other gundam series? Once you start to compare gundam series, there will be a lot of different views.