Guys and Girls,

For those who are excellent in studies and do not wish to be slowpoke. Please visit this website: Intelligent Zone

This is a special design program in such a way that allow good students to proceed their A Level studies right after SPM and continue Medical studies and Pharmacy on Jun or other course as well.

You guys must be well disciplined and able to work hard.

For more information, please contact:-

Name: Mr. Lim
Contact Number: +6016-2099638
Intelligent Zone Office: +603-91021188
Address: No. 8, Jalan 14/144A Taman Bukit Cheras 56000 Kuala Lumpur

FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CLICK HERE!!!!

No kidding, this one only for those extreme smart students to join

In fact, not to say smart. Should be hardworking...
Personally, I think this is a smart way to study as in College and University, we often being drag long enough to have few holes in our pockets.

No offense. The center do it doesn't mean MOE recognize it.MOE stressed that A level must be at least 9months long.No point taking it if in the end MOE don't recognize, no?

It doesnt matter if MOE doesnt recognize it. The cert is awarded by the Cambridge exam board, not our MOE. A lot of students are taking A-level as private candidates.

Thanks onimusha for helping me to defend.
In fact this is true. Regardless MOE recognize it or not, student will still got a WORLD RECOGNIZED A-LEVEL from Cambridge University.

May i know how much is the tuition fees for this intensive program ?

Well, true that the cert is awarded by Cambridge exam board but will the local private unis and colleges accept it?Plus, if you are planning to work in malaysia, recognization is important.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 22 2009, 08:15 PM

You are right but A-level is just a pre-university qualification to enter degree course. Nobody would use a pre-u qualification to apply for jobs. As long as the degree is recognized, working in Malaysia is not a problem. I doubt private universities and colleges wont accept this, even the prestigious NUS and NTU of Singapore accept this qualification.

I'm not saying that someone will use A level cert to apply for jobs.But for scholarships application and interview, will this not affected?

Example:

So, when someone interview you where you get your A level? Oh " intelligent zone" and where the heck is that? I can't even find that on MOE web.

First impression on the interview side will be, hmm, is this guy's result is recognized by MOE?If it's not, erm, should we give him/her the scholarship? What if we give him and turned out his cert is not recognized?In the end, will it affect the chance of you getting scholarship?


MOE stressed that 9 months is the least a college/institute should have for their A level course.Unless someone can find out that MOE approve this, or else, it will be risky to take on that, no?

Plus, intelligent zone doesnt even have a decent website.All they have is a blog?


P.s:I'm not here to bash but is this a registered institution?Is this safe? If it's not, I don't see the need of spreading it around and mislead others.

Ya, i agree..

Sounds ludicrous to me. Anyway, check with relevant authorities if someone intends to pursue it.

First, as a interviewer, will they ask where you took your A Level instead of Degree? =.=' For your information, the real world won't care about your education background because that is first stage of filter. When you are being called for the an interview, they are testing your social skills and ability in presenting yourself. No everyone only focus on branding ok? A Levels must from a reputable University then only can so called A LEVELS. =.='

To make things clear, I rather say it like that, Intelligent Zone is a place for all private candidate gather around and have discussion about their studies with a guidance from a lecturer. It is not something like what you guys did in the University. Remember, the students here are taking as private candidate and in an intensive way of studies.

Intelligent Zone have not gone to the website area. Not everyone is familiar with website thingy ok? Give them time and allow them to improve since they are still new. Everything deserve to have their first time. OK?

Intelligent Zone is a registered institution. You can check in the Government website.

In order for you to see it is safe or not, you guys are always welcome to come and have a look at the centre and talk with their coordinator or lecturer.

Please, solstice818, the word mislead is annoying me. Please provide strong evidence before saying so. It is unfair for you to do so before even really get in to it.

For further information, you can always call 016-2099638 for more information. Thanks.

Since you went for personal attack in another thread, I see no purpose in talking nicely to you then.

My conclusion, you have 2 problems.Blind and cant understand simple English.


I said interviews for applications of Scholarships.Blind or you can't understand simple English?In other words, I m saying interview for scholarships for degree.


That's bullshit.Are you saying that even if you failed all your education in your whole life, they don't give a damn and will still hire you?Then, what's the purpose of government offering JPA scholarship for those who get straight A's ?Why don't they offer to everyone if the real world dont care about your education background?


http://intelligentzone.edu.my ----> 404 not found
As far as I know, colleges and unis that registered under MOE have their own website ended with Edu.MY.



I guess you are really blind.



I said if.And seriously, I don't care much about whether it annoys you or not.If you cant understand simple word like "IF", please go ahead and check on oxford dictionary.



Strong evidence? It's mentioned that A level courses must at least be 9 months old.And who the heck in this world can prove that the one intelligent zone providing is legal and approved by MOE?

Tell us...

I would like to know when did MOE mention that A-level program duration must be at least 9 months. I cant find anything about that on MOE's website.

That's what they told me when I called them.You can do the same.

All you have to do is, contact them and ask.

Address:
Bahagian Teknologi Pendidikan
Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia
Pesiaran Bukit Kiara
50604 Kuala Lumpur



Email:btp@moe.edu.my


Phone:603-2098 7788


Phone: 603-2092 3763


I see no point in blind defending.Blind defending for the purpose of promoting especially.If 6months is allowed, every single college in Malaysia(or those in others countries) will be providing this type of short courses by now.

Even if 6 months is allowed for A-levels, not many colleges will conduct it as most will not have an effective proven schedule to ensure academic excellence of the students. Take Canada for example, they're the only ones to have a 3 year medicine programme and seats are given to the crème de la crème only.

Quote from CIE official web.

http://www.cie.org.uk/qualifications/acade...uppersec/alevel

Will they even approve 6months A level? Is a big question mark there.

Things are different when the students take A-level as private candidates. I know a person who studied A-level himself within 6 months after his SPM and sit for the exam on June. British Council did not ask for any past academic qualification. He is doing fine in UK now. Btw, I think the certificate of A-level doesnt state which institution did you attend.

I assume Intelligent Zone works as a tuition centre for students to learn the syllabus of the subjects. The students would need to apply for the exam through British Council as private candidates themselves. Basically, it doesnt matter if the institution is not recognized. If British Council in Malaysia is allowed to provide examinations to private candidates, the qualifications come from the exams are obviously recognized in Malaysia. I believe universities/colleges that provide A-level are inspected by British Council before they could provide it. British Council holds every rights in providing A-level examinations here. Those universities/colleges dont receive the exam papers directly from CIE, British Council distributes to them.

This post has been edited by onimusha_m16: Feb 23 2009, 01:29 AM

Same goes to you... Blind and cant understand simple English.



Come on. You never read the word... "FIRST STAGE OF FILTER". Interview will be the second stage. Please do take note of that. I am one of the scholar as well. I know it.



Do you see any "COLLEGE" and "UNIVERSITY" in the institution name? Still dare to say me blind. Normal tuition centre also need .edu.my? Nonsense.



You know the word TYPICALLY? Go check dictionary la. TYPICALLY not equal to MUST!!!

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Added on February 23, 2009, 1:22 amI see that you are the person who can think wisely here. You are great man.

This post has been edited by dexterhau: Feb 23 2009, 01:22 AM

You cant blame her for that. I dun think she knows about A-level examinations well.

The cert only have CIE logo and the subjects taken with grade of course.

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Added on February 23, 2009, 1:27 amI know but at least she understand properly before spoiling others thread.
In fact, my sister is studying there as well. Just helping them to promote. =.='
Suddenly a girl came out and say this and that. OMG...

This post has been edited by dexterhau: Feb 23 2009, 01:27 AM

1st, if this is tuition center, make it clear. Your thread title said " A level in 6 months" making other to think that your center acts as a college/uni to OFFER other 6month course.Do remember, tuition and course is 2 different things.

2nd, I purposely highlighted the word typically.Thus, I can see it clearly.Anyway, quoted again from CIE site



360hours.I don't think 6months can cover that...Erm, 6hours a day?



I found this funny when you only come to agree to people that support your tuition center (ops, I said it out). Come to think of it, who knows whether this will do wonder?Even if your centre are certified, you are merely 23years old.Do you have the qualification to teach students?

Private candidates or not? It doesnt matter.The course SHOULD be conducted in 9months.Just because it's your tuition center making it 6, doesnt mean it's legally recognized.And you are making it sound like A level is approved to be done in 6 months.Indirectly, you are sending out wrong message and what then? Other trying to finish A level in one month? One week? Funny.

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Added on February 23, 2009, 1:30 amYea.I don't know it well because I already passed with flying colours years ago...Correct...You are right...You are the only one know it well then...

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Added on February 23, 2009, 1:36 amFrom the 1st post until the last post, TS never even mention private candidates before.Plus, his posts make it sound like a course more than a tuition.What a way of MISLEAD others.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 23 2009, 01:36 AM

Found another problem. No maths base. Still say pass with flying color. I think it should be coloring contest.



That is what you think. Let do some maths here. 1 month = 30 days, 6 months = 30 X 6 = 180 days, 360 hours divide by 180 days = 2 hours per day. =.='
In other words, 1 month cover 60 hours, mean 1 week is 15 hours and one day is 3 hours.

I m saying 6 hours because I dont think anyone want 7 day long classes. Even a tuition center will take a rest.


Plus, I m not so free like you to take calculator out to calculate.I have better things to do.And for your information, I'm a law student.I don't take maths and of course I don't care much about calculating.

From the beginning, your posts are misleading the others.You are just promoting your own tuition center and defending your center for your own sake.Money comes 1st and other people's future, you don't seem like care. You made it sound like that's a college offering the course at 6months(a cut-length A level compared to others) but you failed to mention it's a tuition center until few posts later.Your thread title also mislead others.And you NEVER mention private candidates for god sake.

You failed to spot that he didn't state College or University as well. FYI 6 months to complete A levels is possible and it is indeed a recognised certificate. However do bear in mind the local universities do not accept A levels, whether 6 months or the full 1.5/2 years as far as I know. Maybe they make exceptions, maybe not but usually no. STPM is what you need to get into the Degree courses in local Unis and SPM for Diploma but I guess you know about that already.

Also, another thing is that, even though this Intellizone place isn't a full fledge college or uni, I am studying in a small college in JB and my seniors completed their A levels in 6 months. Although this isn't generally encouraged due to the workload but it IS possible. Register for the exam, study and sit for it. That's how it is. Private candidate or not, as long you're studying for the exam, you're a student. Oh and FYI, I already took and completed my A levels in ten months.

MOE recognised or not it doesn't matter for Pre-Uni qualifications. You'll not get into local universities but then even if you were aiming for local unis, why bother with A levels? There's the cheaper alternative of STPM isn't there? Recognition is much more important towards Diplomas and Degrees as you'll be using them instead during job applications.

You're a law student, yet you fail to find out in depth about the facts before criticizing others. Word play is common in law, he didn't state college/university and you assumed it to be the other way. Knowing the law doesn't mean you've automatically become all omniscient. Just because you are a law student, all the more reason you should be mindful of such matters and not blabber around that you're a law student just because you don't care about calculation.

You don't care about mathematics doesn't generalise that ALL law students don't care about it.

1) Your first point , Local Universities dont accept A-levels . In fact , they accept it now for some of the undergraduate courses . I myself is now applying a degree program in UM and i did my A-levels last year .

2) We all knew that 6 months is possible but again , it depends on individuals . If ones intend to further his/her studies in M'sia , his A-levels will not be recognised by MOE . Whereas if ones planning to study overseas like UK , sure ! 6 months plan is the best if he wanted to finish his pre-u earlier . Well , whether he will get through or pass with flying colour is another question which i dont think it's significant to discuss it here . Seriously. 6 months is quite risky. 9months or 10 months is okay so i wont be surprise when u said u did ur A-lvls in 10 months . What i am curious about is , why you bring in the fact that u did A-lvl in 10 months when it has nothing to do with the discussion of 6 months A-levels .

3) You see , i am an A-levels holder but now i am apply for LLB in UM . You generalise this issue as well, there might be other factors for someone who sat for A-levels but aim for IPTA . I will soon become a law student , the reason i take A-levels is because A-levels offer Law as a subject whilst STPM doesnt . Taking up law is important since i will know whether can i cope with law .

4)I think what solsctice meant is that law student doesnt care about calculation since its all about words and phrases. Generally , law student dont go in depth in calculation. But , we will when there is a need for that . We do'nt need math to score. The word 'CALCULATE' here may not necessary to be math . So , we still count and calculate whether we have enough of points , facts and evidence to support our arguments .

Alright just wanna cut the tension here for a while....Since you can complete A level in 6 months i do have one question....From what i have been informed, students taking A level needs to go through 2 exams that is only held once a year each before officially being recognized as completed A level so how is it possible to finish it in 6 months? I am just asking cause i don't really know as much as you guys know about A level... Thanks

fakerz, I think they'll sit for the AS and A2 papers all at one shot, it is possible.
Eg: Register with the board in January, complete the exams in June.

6 months is definitely a super short duration of time,whoa. O.O
TS, is there a max. number of subjects the students are allowed to take then?

As long as those subjects dont clash with each other on the timetable, why not??

Just for curiosity's sake, no attack meant =)

It's not the scheduling conflict that poses the problem here. Squeezing say...4 subjects into six months takes a LOT of dedication and hard work-it's compressing what basically is a 2 year course into 1/4th of the time recommended. Personally, I'd prefer to pace myself but if some are willing to make it at breakneck speed,why not? *shrugs*

I see i see thanks...means to say for 4 subjects one shot in June they take like 8 papers? 2 for each subject? lol...well i guess u are right if ppl wanna rush it then it's up to them....Well at any case for those who still wanna study and work in Malaysia after A lvl, just make sure everything u take from A lvl to your degree is MQA approved =)

there are 'cramp' colleges in uk itself, where they fast track students through the syllabus and prepare for exams (a2) in 1 year......much of this intensive coaching is as much in content, as in exam techniques......AS is not compulsory.....

but i don't know if it is possible to do this in 6 months!

1) This is something new to me as I do not really update myself concerning the local institution matters. I have nothing to say about this, I did state that it was as far as I knew. And I'm sure it's news to some other people as well.

2) The issue of whether the individual's A levels being recognised by MOE or not isn't an issue if you want to further your studies in Malaysia. In fact the only problem I can see from that is that the individual won't be able to get into local universities. Private institutions in Malaysia only care whether you meet their minimum criteria (3 Principals or Credits in related subjects most of the time). But as I've said, if the individual wanted to go for local universities, that person might as well opt for STPM instead. And the reason I stated about my completion of A levels is just for solstice's information just in case she says something related about it, nothing relevant I know; just a FYI.

3) The usual bunch of students opting for A levels do not apply to local universities but instead other private institutions/overseas. However, I have not come across your case before where A levels can be used to apply for local universities. This is related to point #1. How long have they been doing this, I have no idea either. It's latest news for me.

4) To calculate is to count, either way in solstice's statement, the word calculate, however you interpret it; it will still lead to the meaning of calculating in numbers. Reread her statement. The way she puts it is as if just because she's a law student, she's automatically categorised into the no mathematics person. However this is not entirely true don't you think? It's like saying students of law will become lawyers, which of course, is not true. Some become legal consultants and some go into another field that's not really related to law.

There shouldn't be a problem here.

It's just an exam that comes with an external certificate. The government doesn't come into the question so does the duration of the course.

It's not an issue here and there shouldn't be any discussion over this.

whether ipta (in this case, um) will accept a msian with a-levels into a critical course remains to be seen, i believe it is early days yet, the stpm results is not even out, let along applications started.......

The amount of papers depends on the subject itself, eg. Accounting 4 papers (2 for AS and 2 for A2), Economics 4 papers as well. So it will be 16 papers at one go if you sit for 4 subjects and each of them 4 papers. General Paper only has AS and Business Studies only has 3 papers (2 for AS and 1 for A2).

EDIT: Besides, I think we've gone far enough with the offtopic.

This post has been edited by ffrulz: Feb 23 2009, 04:37 PM

from http://intelligentzone.blogspot.com..

" Yes, your eye have no problem at all. We do offer you a certified A Level Education in just half a year time. As you can see, most of the universities around the world that offer A Level Education takes up a minimum 1.5 YEAR to complete an A Level Education which is considered a waste of time MOST of the time.

Why others have to spend up to 1.5 Years to finish A Level Education? This is rather simpler. For example, normally you are being instructed by the colleges or universities to take up only maximum 12 to 15 credit hour per semester (half a year). Average per day you only study up to 2 go 3 hours per day. In fact, you might not even have 3 hours full where there are rest time and breaks between it. In this case, it is surely a waste of time. One day you have almost 12 hours for your daily activities and you only used up 3 hours to study in class? What about the rest of the time? Sleep? Eat? Surfing the net? Gaming? THEY ARE ALL WASTING OF TIME.

What we offered here is different. Minimum 4 to 5 credits hour per day you have to study in class for A Level Education. Most of the students will surely deny this statement because everyone do not like to study so HARD. However, please think in dept whether is it worth it to study HARD now then later. Our intensive course will allow you to enter to the society early than others and you are able to gain more than 1 year experience more compared to the others. You see the benifits here? Everything we planned here is for you to be ahead than others who choose to be ordinary.

Therefore, we hope that you are not the ordinary one and able to make a smart choice to excel yourself in a faster pace and advance yourself in just 6 MONTHS time. For more information, you can always contact us here. "


YES, MY EYE HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL!

actually, my friend is doing this too in Stamford college, I think

Joined today to promote own tuition center, eh?

I hope your eyes have no problem reading this.

The A level exam is on May/June.How could you possibly enter medical studies and other courses when that particular time, you are having your exam and your result will only come out months later(normally around 2 months)

From the start, the post itself already TRY to con mislead others. I hope you don't have eyes problem when reading this.

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Added on February 23, 2009, 6:06 pmIs true that he did fail to mention that it is a college/uni.But his post, from the 1st to the last, he failed to mention it's for private candidates.Also, he put in the word "program" instead of "tuition".The way he put it sounds like his center is some sort of colleges that offer A LEVEL COURSE.Keyword, course. Course and tuition are two different things.In this case, he is saying tuition for private candidates(yes, he again, failed to mention this).

6months A Level is possible.Even if you wanna take it in a month, you can.But, will all this affect your chance of getting scholarships offered by local bodies /government.Keyword: scholarship.Under the rules of MOE, 9months is the least.Under CIE exam board, you should at least have 360 hours of guided training.These are facts.You can't deny it.

I'm a law student which is why I backs every single things I said with facts and proof.I even provided the number of MOE in previous posts.And practically, let me tell you this, law students(mostly) don't care much about maths.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 23 2009, 06:08 PM

Nope. My sister already registered for both AS and A Level. Will upload the picture once I got the slip from her.

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Added on February 23, 2009, 6:48 pmIn fact, my sister do study hard for it. Actually the timing is basically 3 hours per subject per day. Total of 9 hours per day. We used to study more than that a day for 1 year during secondary school right? I mean for me morning class from 7.30 to afternoon 1.30 and continue tuition at Martin 3.00 to 6.00 and sometimes 7.00. Total up its somehow the same. Around 9 to 10 hours per day. Yeah, again depends on individual...

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Added on February 23, 2009, 6:51 pmWhat he said is true. Currently there are some IPTA accepting A Level but not all. Only some of them. This year start I guess because previously when I try cannot.

This post has been edited by dexterhau: Feb 23 2009, 06:51 PM

1 day need study how many hours? normal students can get A a not ...

you're one heck of a law student who doesn't have the simplest ability to understand sarcasm.
why would i bold serious grammar mistakes to promote a tuition centre?
stop generalizing law students, shame on you!

Roughly 1 day 9 hours.
Erm... Depends on how you define NORMAL.
Getting an A is depends on your determination, dedication and hardworking.
Ganbate...

If you have a good understanding and pay well attention during class then im sure you will be able to score..but if you're slacking during class and homeworks..then its really really hard to catch up...1 and half years class shorten to half a year..lots of effort require if u wanna score well as an average student

My bad...I didn't even notice....

I didn't spend much time reading about that(it's not worth reading )

Anyway, I'm sticking with my statement on law students...

I had a friend who have done pre-U in 6mth and it is disastrous...how does ppl do it in 6 mth??...really freak...

I do not understand why must you emphasize that he did not mention the words "Private Candidates". Any importance over the matter? First thing, he did not state that Intelligentzone is a College/University. Nothing wrong there.

Secondly, Program and Tuition are two different words, yes I agree with you. However, re-read the sentence again. In which part of the sentence did he specify the word "Program" with A levels? It is not an A level program but a program that is designed/conjured up by the centre to help students to complete their A levels within six months. Get it? Another thing, any layman could tell apart a proper College/University's website from Blogspot, unless of course, that person is blind.

Make it sound like some sort of college that offer A level course? Please, a college with blogspot address?

Frankly, you're out of your mind if you still want to differentiate the word "Course and Tuition". I see no important relevance here either.

Your previous post just talked about government recognition. Did you specify the term scholarship? Nope I don't see it at all. However if you must pursue the matter, so far government scholarships is a grey area for me. If you're talking about JPA, that I'm not sure. If you're talking about the Star Education Fund, I do not think they would mind if you have completed your A levels within a short duration, eg. 1~6months, as long as you completed them and scored good grades.

To exclude Private Candidates/Students who completed their A levels faster than the usual bunch from getting a scholarship would be unfair IMO. Both parties posses the same qualification, yet one is deemed unfit due to him/her being faster? Right...

The 360 hours of guided learning which was quote from the CIE Website is too not of high importance. 360 hours can only be applied on students who are taking up Full Time Classes in a proper institution. The 360 hours is just a recommended guideline. It doesn't make you eligible for a scholarship or recognition. You are not obligated to fulfil it. Understand?

The reason I state that this only applies to Full Time students is because Private Candidates (Your current favourite word) do not follow a set schedule for their studies. Who knows they could only have studied maybe 100hours? 200? Any below the recommended guideline or above it, your preference. Does this mean that their certificates they get awarded aren't recognised? Nope, it's recognised surely as with students who went through the full 1.5 year course.

And of course, you yourself have already stated the word "Should" have 360 hours of guided learning. It is not a must. Facts? I would call them recommended guidelines actually.

You're a law student and that's why you provide facts and proof? All I've seen you wrote up until now are mostly criticisms which hardly hold any water. Sure, most law students do not count as much as accountants or cashiers, that doesn't mean that if you don't care about mathematics/calculation then all/most of you do not care about it. But one thing is for sure, you don't care about it.

I got a question, what about lab work?

If he didn't mention the word "private candidates", indirectly, it shows that he is offering it as whole, as an official A level course.There is a great different between private candidates and a proper A level student.

As for my statement of him misleading others, let's take a look at this very "decent" piece of writing in the web of the center.



Firstly, if you are not a college/uni, don't make it sounds like you are.You are not offering them a certified A Level program.To be precise, you are giving them tuition in the way of an intensive program and guidance.

(Oh...Please, don't take up English if you happen to be interested to follow their program.Reason?Take a look on this http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=23913484 )

Secondly,it's tuition center.Not a college or uni, why the heck you use credit hours?Trying to con mislead others?


I believe I didn't mention about 360hours making us eligible for scholarship.Be it guidelines or rules, it doesn't matter.Fact, you should at least have 360hours of guided training in which I don't believe a 4month program like theirs will be able to provide.Why did I say 4 months?The intake is on January like mentioned by TS but obviously, you don't have classes during exam months, do you? May and June are the exam month.Again the information of TS is MISLEADING others once more .Frankly speaking 360hours in 4months, that will be roughly 90hours per month and 3 hours a day.Minus all the public holidays and weekends, how many days do you have left? Count yourself.


Which is why TS should have mention private candidates.Full time students and private candidates are different.Like you said, they don't have to follow the schedule nor do they have to follow the guide of 360hours.Again, the use of words like OFFERING CERTIFIED A LEVEL, CREDITS HOURS make it sound like those students who are going to register with them are full time students and not private candidates. Again, mislead.


Whether it is grey area to you, it doesnt matter to us, no? I believe none of us care much about that.Facts are, local authorities and bodies will follow the instructions of MOE to ensure the students they are giving out scholarships to fulfill the requirement of the MOE.Be it JPA scholarships or Star Education Fund or Petronas and others, they will look deep into the requirement of the educational background of the applicants for sure.Then again, this 9months rules of MOE is not applicable on private candidates.Keyword: private candidates. The reason why I m repeating private candidates is because, private candidates do not have to follow the rules of 9months long A Level course set by MOE.When TS failed to mention the word "private candidates" and used words like CREDITS HOURS and OFFERING CERTIFIED A LEVEL COURSE, that's already a DIFFERENT case from the original case TS wish to tell.


Well, is hard to get somebody agree with you all the time.My facts and proof might not be accepted by you then again, is there for the argument.As for your accuse claim of criticism, take a deep look why I have to resort to criticize? The information given by TS is full of errors.How the hell can you enter medic course or other courses in JUNE like mentioned by TS when you will only get your results months later?I never know that TS' center actually can get the result immediately after finishing the exam.Facts are, you finish the exam in mid june.How the hell you gonna start a new course immediately when you didnt even get your results?As for the calculating part, I don't see a need of us getting deep into this discussion when it's not relevant.Save your breath.No point discussing over it.Irrelevant.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 24 2009, 12:57 AM

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong and wrong! Great difference between private candidates and full time students? The only difference here is that the former do not go for scheduled classes and the latter going for their scheduled classes. Other than that, both are taking the exact same qualification with no difference in quality nor qualification whatsoever. Do not stereotype between Private Candidates and Full Time students. Either way both are taking the exact same qualification and nobody should care about whether they WERE or WERE NOT Full time students.

Indirectly shows that he is offering it as a whole official A level course? Wrong. This is YOUR assumption. He is not offering the specially designed program. But Intelligentzone is, and where did you get the fact that he is an employee from the said centre? If I remember correctly, he said that his sister was studying there. He did not say that he is working for Intelligentzone. Just because the person to contact and his surname match doesn't mean they are the same person.

Again I repeat myself, any layman could tell apart a College/University's website from Blogger/Wordpress or whatever website you wish to insert here. The word "mislead" should only be used only IF an interested/potential individual contacts this Mr.Lim that was stated in the very first post of this thread and he STATES that they are a proper institution instead of a tuition centre. Until then, there is no misleading since in the so called "decent" writing you'd linked to didn't contain any misleading words. Just grammatically incorrect.

Why can't tuition centres use the word credit hours? Do the students themselves know the meaning of the word in the first place? Do you? Is is related to your case of government recognition? I do not think so. Have you heard of marketing? Do they not use words that the layman do not know?

You yourself admit that 360 hours of guided training is not an obligation. Therefore it is not an important matter at all whether they meet the 360 hours or not. You've studied contract am I right? This is just an ITT. Nothing illegal here. Why should you bother about this 360 hours? If you don't believe Intelligentzone can live up to it's claims in providing 360 hours of guided learning then it's your OPINION. As I've said, it's not an obligation to fulfil the 360 hours and whether or not Intelligentzone provides these 360 hours or not is nothing related to your concern of RECOGNITION. This is because if you've sat for the exam then you have sat for the exam. It's that simple really. What you get is a WORLDWIDE RECOGNISED certificate that is the SAME as what a full time student gets. Six months, four months, it don't matter at all to your current case.

The use of CERTIFIED A LEVEL and CREDIT HOURS make it sound like the students that register there are full time and not private candidates.
Your opinion only, people have different perspectives. Just because you think it makes it sound like a college doesn't mean that it is alright? And if you want to go further, sure there might be people like you. There's a reason for the invention of the telephone you know? Call and ask, is that so hard? A potential mislead is not a true mislead unless happened. All are regarded innocent unless proven guilty, I'm sure you know this phrase very well.

Whether it's a grey area to me or not it doesn't matter, yes. But these facts, are you sure they will check your education background down to the duration of your course? If this is true then you are freaking contradicting yourself. Why are the self proclaimed rules of yours from the MOE not applicable on Private Candidates? Both possess the same qualification. Just because you were a private candidate so you could be excused from this "must have 9 months duration of study" rule. Recheck the post of mine above, the eligibility that I quoted is from the Star Education Fund, if they were concerned about the duration of your course of study, they would have already written it down there. And before you say it could be a so-called hidden term/condition, do you not think that complaints could be heard by now? Since you like to provide proof to back yourself up, please do. I want to see the lines "At least nine months duration of study" and "Private candidates are excluded from this rule". And of course, it must be related to A levels yeah?

The error made by TS about Medical courses in June could be just human error. The TS isn't a medical student nor to my knowledge an education consultant, does every citizen of a country be obligated to know the intakes for medical courses? Heck maybe there are such courses. The possibility is there isn't it? Nothing of importance to the programme offered by Intelligentzone.

The point is, when you wrote stating that all of this is irrelevant, what you are referring to is yourself. Read the posts you have written and tell me, was there such a need for arrogant accusations claiming that the TS is trying to con people or mislead. The only errors I see from the details provided over at the blog are spelling mistakes and incorrect usage of english grammar. That and the lack of information regarding the offered programme. This is why you have the phone/email/address provided at the first page of the thread.

In the end there was no need for your intervention in the first place. I just found you arrogant and a showoff just because you're studying law and you think you could just bombard somebody and accuse him of misleading others when he didn't in the first place.

If you still don't get what the TS wants, here's a shorter summary for you.

The purpose of this thread is to promote a six months programmed conjured up by Intelligentzone for the A levels examination.

The target audience?

Interested potential students who wish to complete their A levels qualification in the shortest amount of time

That is all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want more information, you should have called to ask if you WERE that concerned.

Sure potential fraud/trickery is a possibility, however it is potential. Do not jump to conclusions. You are no fortune teller, you're just a normal human being.

CIE board will be crying like hell if they foundnd out that their courses are being deviated and turned into rote-learning type of courses in malaysia....

JPA scholarships are only for SPM students of the preceding year. Seriously, private scholarship providers do not really care if you have done your A-level alone or with an institution, as long as you have the grades and a spot in the appropriate program at a good university, you would be shortlisted.

A-level is A-level is A-level, Some people can do it in a week, some in a year, some, two years. So what is this talk about recognition and all?

i wonder if ffrulz and solstice are going to retype all their arguments!

Those posts already vanished in the air



Lesson: Always screenshot your posts...Who knows when is the next database crash

Thank you for that post above, ffrulz. =) Arguably the most intelligent and factually sound post in this topic. Said everything I wanted to say in reply. If some people could just swallow their pride when corrected, maybe none of this would have happened.

Feynman, the recognition discussion stemmed from a misunderstanding. The topic creator made this topic to bring attention to a tuition center that prepares students for A levels in 6 months, though they are to register as private candidates. It is not an actual college or university college, and so does not have to adhere to MOE's guidelines of offering guided learning for a certain period of time.

What happened was that the user solstice818 brought up a very valid and good point about the validity of the institution [with reasoning of recognition of MOE], I mean, everyone would naturally be suspicious of something that's too good to be true, especially when it comes to potentially bogus educational institutions nowadays, so I honestly can't blame her in this respect.

However, it was all based on the assumption that it was a college, despite the fact that there was no mention of it whatsoever in the starting post, and then when the topic creator provided further explanation about why the six months thing wasn't "illegal" and corrected her assumption, she accused the topic creator of "misleading others". Everything went downhill from there. Granted, the topic creator was also partly at fault for not offering clarification earlier when the first "attack" began, and he could have handled the initial argument a lot better, but it appears that the argument has gone a lot further anyway.

Seriously, take a chill pill, guys. It was all just a misunderstanding. Suck it up. Some of you [yes, some, not one] were wrong, and when corrected, just admit you were wrong and make amends. Topic creator, maybe the whining would stop if you edit your post to make it clearer that it's a tuition center, even though to me, it was quite obvious from the beginning.

Oh, and by the way, AS and A2 are two extremely different papers. XD Regardless of what the "title" on the paper says. Your senior might have chosen to take both papers in one go [or maybe he/she was retaking AS at the same time as his/her A2 to boost the AS score], that might explain some confusion.

P.S. I'm also doing Law and I found the Law students not being mathematically-inclined statement pretty funny too. XP

This post has been edited by Glassy: Feb 25 2009, 04:14 PM

hello..onimusha..may i know private candidates can sit for bio,chem and maths for A level?i intend to do so..but according to the webpage of british council...it is stated that private candidates are not allowed to take the subjects that contain coursework or practical components...oh my god...any opinion?

Pls explain hw it works. PM. thanx

A-levels in 6 months? Are you kidding me? Anyone went for this programme?

Tat fast is reli unbelievable

One of my friend scored an average result in UEC, so he brushed up his qualifications by attending a 6 months programme similar to this.

you can opt for alternative written paper as a replacement for practical work..

free subjects to choose from?