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Gormaz
post Aug 11 2010, 12:55 PM

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Hum true, since he is romance possibility for FemShep, could be the reason, for me he spoke a bit at first but it very quickly was all about "I am doing calculation now, come back later" stuff.

Replaying ME1 now smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2010, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Aug 12 2010, 09:03 PM)
just finished the game on Insanity, with all members survived.
finally got all achievement in the game. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

but, last time I played, all Cerberus crew survived. this time, only Dr Chakwas survive. did i do something wrong? hmm.gif
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As soon as your crew get captured, a timer starts.

If you go immediately through the Mass Relay to the Collector base, all your crew get saved.

The more time you spend before going (like doing crap missions or loyalty ones), the less crew will be saved.

I think Doc Chakwas cannot die, I guess she has some appearance to do in ME3 or she is just here to tell you that you screwed up by taking your time before coming to save them.

So basically it's better to do all you want to do (upgrades, assignment, loyalty missions etc.) before the IFF mission.
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post Aug 13 2010, 09:09 AM

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My crew got captured after Legion's loyalty mission personally (I did that sequence two times) but both times I went straight to this after the IFF so yar, maybe this one is special


If you want finish N7 missions, do these before going for the IFF smile.gif

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post Aug 13 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 13 2010, 09:19 AM)
Hmmm, that's odd, considering you get Legion during the IFF mission and not anytime before. laugh.gif

Using a character unlock hack perhaps? brows.gif
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I meant I did:

IFF (got Legion)
Legion Loyalty mission
Then next time I tried to travel somewhere, the crew capture sequence started.

Trying to do the Legion loyalty mission did not trigger the crew capture, only the one after this.
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post Aug 13 2010, 11:48 AM

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Yep, otherwise would be a bit silly to not be able to do Legion loyalty mission, he was actually an interesting character and his explanations about Geth and how the ones we met so far are "heretics" pretty much change the whole perception of Geth in general in the game.

I am actually now replaying ME1 and I keep thinking "HERETICS!" when I kill Geth.

ME3 should have some damn interesting subplots hopefully, they created a lots of possibilities between ME1 and ME2, hopefully they can handle solving them.
I am quite confident personally, replaying ME1 make me realize how much they pre-planned lots and lots of stuff in it, they obviously had the whole plot down before ME1 was out.
Cerberus really were asses in ME1 though

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post Aug 13 2010, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 13 2010, 11:52 AM)
Personally, I thought it was a rather cheap trick to "retcon" the fact that the Geth aren't actually evil.

It was nice of them to make the Geth more 3 dimensional (Rather than the mindless "ohmygod reapers pwnz us!" things before), but its still a retcon.
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While I totally agree it's going with the "bad guys who arent actually bad guys" pony trick you see so often.

But Geth actually never were said to be evil (and technically a sentient machine using pure mathematic as decision process shouldnt really be able to be Evil).

For example Tali herself says that it wasnt the Geth that started the war between Geth and Quarians, it was her people that decided to wipe out the Geth when they showed first sign of higher sentience.
Then they pretty much sat in their systems until ME1 starts.

The one you meet are definitely "evil" by using Husks, wiping out colonies and co, but that did not mean the whole of them was the same, kinda like judging a whole race by seeing a few of their members.

So yar, I would agree it's a retcon if I wasnt sure Bioware actually planned it like this before (which make it not a retcon per se tongue.gif ), by showing Geth (and Cerberus) in ME1 in such a way to make you dislike them while introducing them as "not so bad, depends of the point of view" kind of things in ME2 smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 13 2010, 12:11 PM)
Y'know what would be REALLY bad? In ME3, there's an NPC Collector that can join your party and then he tells you "Oh but they are the EVIL ones! We're actually really nice!"... Then I'll drop Bioware from my list of developers I respect.
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Ha ha ha, yar, I agree, that would really be pushing too far, like I said I can take it with Geth but it's kind of limit.
Would feel like a pokemon episode where the bad guy end up joining you fighting against the badder guy who then also join you to fight th...... etc etc tongue.gif


Then the Illusive Man comes at the last sequence to catch you when you were falling from a cliff!
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post Aug 14 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Aug 14 2010, 06:00 PM)
Hi, Im playng it the 2nd time. Did anyone tried not activating the krogan or legion? WOnder if there's any different story if u dont activate them. If didnt activate still can get the all member survive achievement?
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I am not sure about the achievements but I am pretty sure you can decide not to wake them up yep.

Makes the team weaker for the final mission though, more chance to have people die since both Grunt and Legion are considered "tough" characters for the way the system calculate if people die or not (like on the part where the team holds off the collectors while you go kill the final boss)

About the Geth, H@H@ was just saying that it felt a bit "cheap" and quite a "standard" in lots of movies or novels to have the "bad guys who isnt actually a bad guy and ends up helping you" kind of character or group.

While I personally liked the twist about the Geth and Legion character, like H@H@ said, nothing is now stopping Bioware of using this card again and in ME3 come out with some collector/prothean NPC coming and saying "Oh, these collectors, nar, they are only a small heretic groups, for us we are cool".
That would be the same as with the Geth, but it would indeed feels a bit "cheap"

I also think it was all planned by Bioware and if t stays like this I would say it was interesting.
Can't wait for ME3 really smile.gif

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post Aug 15 2010, 06:58 AM

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Yep and thinking forward with it, if they start playing this card, you can basically explain anything.
The "we didnt tell you it wasnt like this" card is the most powerful story telling stuff really:

Asari actually controlling the Reapers? THEY DIDNT TELL YOU THEY WERENT!

Geth being actually ewoks in cyber-armor? THEY DIDNT TELL YOU THEY WERENT!

Miranda actually a man? THEY DIDNT TELL YOU SHE WASNT! (well if you romanced her I am pretty sure you would have found out but otherwise not ^^)

The Illusive man actually being Conrad Verner in disguise? THEY DIDNT TELL YOU HE WASNT! (Oh man that would be awesome biggrin.gif )

I used to play quite a bit of paper&pencil rpg before and this kind of trick card is what my game master used to call a "Shut up, it's magic" where you kind use some "explanation" to tie up a story line or explain some fact happening in the story that somehow does not make much sense but help stuff move along.

While for Geth it was, as H@H@ said, am interesting good twist, and I liked it personally, I do hope they won't rely on this too much in ME3 as it gets old pretty fast.
You end up trusting nothing and it makes the universe feels inconsistent.

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post Aug 16 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(donchaka @ Aug 16 2010, 09:40 PM)
u need certain level of paragon/renegade to persuade wrex or else he will die
but if u do the 'family armor' quest before then u can keep him alive easily

correct me if i'm wrong. just finished ME1 last week =p
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Yep, it's either a Parangon/Renegade level needed (you either reason him or basically talk him down) or if you did the family armor or not.

Wrex is pure awesome, I killed Ash without hesitation but definitely would have been pissed off if Wrex died tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2010, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Aug 16 2010, 11:15 PM)
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ash?  ohmy.gif
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She was racist really, or at least strongly pro-human.
She is kinda like a female Illusive Man without the money

Didnt really liked her. One has to die anyway tongue.gif

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post Aug 17 2010, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Aug 17 2010, 01:16 PM)
Aww... but I did try to go Paragon whenever I can. But I'm really liking how some stuff gets carried over to ME2.

Best dilemma to have in ME2... who to choose... The Perfect Woman, the Botak Psycho or the girl in the environmental suit... hmm. Or stay faithful to Liara, who's gone a bit psycho too. Fun.


Added on August 17, 2010, 1:17 pmI got a sudden urge to play all over again to see all the Renegade options.
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I sometimes choose Renegade choices to see, then reload to follow my Parangon choice.

Punching journalists is damn fun >_>
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post Aug 19 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Aug 19 2010, 01:55 PM)
Miranda or Tali or Jack.... hmm. Decisions decisions decisions.
Or stick with Liara.
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I liked Tali so much in ME2 that I went back to replay ME1 to not have romance with Liara so I can romance Tali without breaking up any romance...(I also wanted to go back and save the Rachni Queen which I killed in my first playtime)

Read that if you "cheated" on your ME1 romance in ME2, there will be consequences in ME3 tongue.gif
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post Aug 19 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Aug 19 2010, 05:14 PM)
Liara is a little nutsy in ME2 though...

Tali's dialogues with Shep about her fever is really funny. She also said that she don't want to share Shep with Miranda.

And yes, Tali is really interesting in ME2. Cute voice too. I'll be gutted if she fails to survive the final mission. I'm on my first playthrough and am doing the IFF mission.

I wonder if she is can be romanced if you are a renegade. Kelly likes bad boys tongue.gif
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I won't spoil it for you but I highly suggest you are done with all the loyalty missions, have all the upgrades you want and more or less "done" before you do the IFF missions (or keep a save before going in).
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post Aug 25 2010, 12:04 PM

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I read there was supposed to be repercussions in ME3 but yar, it would be weird if there is no special dialogs if you romanced Liara in ME1 and romanced someone else in ME2...

But knowing that the only difference in the main ME2 quest between having romanced her in ME1 or not was:

- "Oh Shepard" Kiss "Now go scan these servers for me kkthxbai"

and

- Oh Shepard" hug "Now go scan these servers for me kkthxbai"

I won't exactly hold my breath for something big...

No difference also if you were accompanied by Garrus or Tali which were part of the old crew too, even a "Oh, nice to see you guys again" would have been nice...

Liara was at the same NPC level of interaction as someone like Patriarch... even though she was supposed to have found your corpse and be the one to give it to Cerberus etc.
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:13 PM

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I played an old game race game named Insane (or 1nsane or whatever) a few years back during uni, it was like a perfect training for the Mako and climbing cliffs, super fun in LAN with friends too =P

I got achievement for finding everything in my last ME1 replay (there are actually extra minerals available) and didnt really find it hard to climb stuff, golden rule is "never climb totally upfront, always with an angle to the climb"
I do admit I used the wiki to get locations of the secret stuff though, it was on my 4th replay and I just wanted a "perfect" run for import into ME2

There are actually few places you can't climb if you never stop, have a bit of initial speed and take the climb with an angle.

I did found the Mako a bit boring after a while but I think I still prefered it to the scan in ME2, at least it "looks" a bit like a game, not like a boring work-related stuff
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post Nov 1 2010, 04:31 PM

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This is like hearing Freeman's voice!!!

"The Heretics will suffer the ultimate punishment!"
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 18 2010, 08:56 PM)
Rumor: BioWare's New Mass Effect Is A Multiplayer Spin-off

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Source: Kotaku

Call of Mass Effect? Battle Effect? Medal of Mass Effect?
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Call of Mass Effect: Post-Modern Duty Ops
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:44 PM

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I actually wouldnt mind a Mass Effect game where you do NOT play a human...

Would give another view on the universe that would be refreshing imo.

But definitely something other than ME3 since it's pretty much focused on Commander Shepard (which I don't mind at all).
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post Dec 12 2010, 09:43 PM

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Do WANT!~

I think I may replay the whole ME1 + ME2 again before, I missed one little thing in ME1 to have "my" perfect walrkthrough last time...

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