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horacetee
post Aug 21 2009, 04:36 PM

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It really depend on what you like to do for your life. The paper doesn't matter a lot except you want to be very specialize (Doctor/Lawyer). With a 'Good' degree in any engineering/IT courses (in Malaysia), just mean that you have a good reasoning, logical, problem solving skills.

I graduated in MicroElectronic (IT) focus on chip design, math (I failed fews time on this), networking etc where I should end up in Intel/Agilent.... What happen when I finish my college was I do software development/consulting for ERP solution for client which is totally diff. from what I learn from school.

If you don't like sitting in the office and cracking your head for if-then-else/OO programming, you may want to choose Networking where you need to travel most of time for support and project.

To excel in either field, you need to have very good troubleshooting skills. If not, your senior may solve the problem in 1 hours, you may take a day even you learn the trick from your senior when you start to work.

Malaysia is always short of strong people in Networking and Software development.
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post Aug 21 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(horacetee @ Aug 21 2009, 04:36 PM)
It really depend on what you like to do for your life. The paper doesn't matter a lot except you want to be very specialize (Doctor/Lawyer). With a 'Good' degree in any engineering/IT courses (in Malaysia), just mean that you have a good reasoning, logical, problem solving skills.

I graduated in MicroElectronic (IT) focus on chip design, math (I failed fews time on this), networking etc where I should end up in Intel/Agilent.... What happen when I finish my college was I do software development/consulting for ERP solution for client which is totally diff. from what I learn from school.

If you don't like sitting in the office and cracking your head for if-then-else/OO programming, you may want to choose Networking where you need to travel most of time for support and project.

To excel in either field, you need to have very good troubleshooting skills. If not, your senior may solve the problem in 1 hours, you may take a day even you learn the trick from your senior when you start to work.

Malaysia is always short of strong people in Networking and Software development.
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Cause most of them went oversea to get better paid already... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Dark Lord: Aug 22 2009, 10:22 AM
horacetee
post Aug 22 2009, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Aug 21 2009, 04:58 PM)
Cause most of them when oversea to get better paid already...  tongue.gif
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Agree.
Even they stay in Malaysia, all the top companies will grab them after they graduated, and pay them well.
We in small and medium companies will not easy to recruit them. tongue.gif
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post Aug 24 2009, 03:29 AM

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um this may lari thread a bit... can v take ccna networking right after stpm result... or need a degree in computer science 1st?
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post Aug 24 2009, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(HW-12 @ Aug 24 2009, 03:29 AM)
um this may lari thread a bit... can v take ccna networking right after stpm result... or need a degree in computer science 1st?
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HW-12,

You do not even need SPM to take CCNA.

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post Aug 25 2009, 01:39 AM

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so this ccna is some sort like sap course lar??? just take and can find a job lar
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:18 AM

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I dunno if you can find a job with just a CCNA cert, but CCNA is not easy.
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(HW-12 @ Aug 25 2009, 01:39 AM)
so this ccna is some sort like sap course lar??? just take and can find a job lar
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HW-12,

CCNA is not a course. It is an exam. Yes, you can study and pass it.

<<just take and can find a job lar>>

So what if you can find a job?? If you ONLY know how to pass CCNA exam but you DO NOT KNOW networking, you will not be able to keep the job.

QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Aug 25 2009, 09:18 AM)
I dunno if you can find a job with just a CCNA cert, but CCNA is not easy.
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Dark Lord,

<<but CCNA is not easy.>>

How does learning any skill that is worth having EASY?? If it is EASY, anyone can do it. Then, it does not worth that much.

I have a BSEE and MSEE. But, almost anything I learn about networking, I learned it outside of any formal course work / education. I learn it on my own.

Anyone could get a copy of "Computer Networks" by Andrew S. Tanenbaum and start learning. And, if you can even understand more than 10% of what the book is teaching, you are way ahead of many people.

Ditto, anyone can pick up the Douglas Comer's book on TCP/IP and start learning. All the RFCs is on Internet and free. Cisco web site has a ton of materials. It is ALL there. There are people in networking that does not even have a technical degree.

This is ALL about passion, determination, willingness to LEARN.

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post Sep 12 2009, 03:57 AM

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so the best way to learn networking is???
setting up a network and explore everything inside?

i am totally empty in this networking and programming, just know a bit a bit oni....... hardly have time to study this all.. have to concentrate on my f6 study cry.gif

just oni can learn during holiday

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post Sep 12 2009, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(HW-12 @ Sep 12 2009, 03:57 AM)
so the best way to learn networking is???
setting up a network and explore everything inside?

i am totally empty in this networking and programming, just know a bit a bit oni....... hardly have time to study this all.. have to concentrate on my f6 study cry.gif

just oni can learn during holiday
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HW-12,

Just do it.

Do you know the networking part of the Window to begin with?? If not, why not??

It started with QUESTIONS.

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post Dec 31 2009, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 18 2009, 04:32 PM)
i thought cs is physics heavy, and a good result in pre-u physics is a prerequisite?........
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Wrong. Maths is the prerequisite for any IT course.

QUOTE(thken @ Feb 18 2009, 06:43 PM)
i heard a lot of ppl taking CS and graduated.....so, really that hard meh CS?
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CS is harder than IT but if you're interested nothing will be too hard.

QUOTE(samliang @ Feb 18 2009, 09:24 PM)
Anyone took Computer Science here? and i dun have any science background here ... so is it suitable for me ?
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Having a science background is an advantage because as most people have already mentioned, it encourages logic thinking, analytical skills etc which is quite important in CS.
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post Sep 17 2012, 03:49 PM

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This thread dates back in 2009, wow.

I have my Diploma in CS, it does emphasize a bit on math for logic and critical thinking, at least up till Calculus II. I suck at math so much that I am sad when dreamer101 said everything need strong math and science to move forward fast. Still, it is the truth.

I am looking forward to continue my Bachelor degree in networking, more likely Data Communication and Networking, which is the reason why I am here. I am thinking of part time study as I just started working in an IT company for a few months.

What dreamer101 said are truly one of best advice from people who are very experienced. I just started working in an IT company and I could not agree more with dreamer101. You can know a little bit of everything, but I do think specialization is better due to supply and demand thing.

This post kind of insightful, perhaps half insightful laugh.gif but thanks dreamer101, your posts do help a lot. I'm not saying other's posts are not helping, but I'm looking info on networking because I prefer job where I can move around rather than crack my head with OO and yours kind of meet the purpose.

In the end, do what you have passion in, and nothing will be work. Create an artist out of you. Anyway, good luck all of you above, perhaps too late as it has been almost three years. Maybe all of you could update your status, did you chose CS? Perhaps Networking then? Perhaps had started working? I'd be delighted to know, and maybe leave some piece of advice for me wink.gif
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post Sep 18 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(deARCH @ Sep 17 2012, 03:49 PM)
This thread dates back in 2009, wow.

I have my Diploma in CS, it does emphasize a bit on math for logic and critical thinking, at least up till Calculus II. I suck at math so much that I am sad when dreamer101 said everything need strong math and science to move forward fast. Still, it is the truth.

I am looking forward to continue my Bachelor degree in networking, more likely Data Communication and Networking, which is the reason why I am here. I am thinking of part time study as I just started working in an IT company for a few months.

What dreamer101 said are truly one of best advice from people who are very experienced. I just started working in an IT company and I could not agree more with dreamer101. You can know a little bit of everything, but I do think specialization is better due to supply and demand thing.

This post kind of insightful, perhaps half insightful laugh.gif but thanks dreamer101, your posts do help a lot. I'm not saying other's posts are not helping, but I'm looking info on networking because I prefer job where I can move around rather than crack my head with OO and yours kind of meet the purpose.

In the end, do what you have passion in, and nothing will be work. Create an artist out of you. Anyway, good luck all of you above, perhaps too late as it has been almost three years. Maybe all of you could update your status, did you chose CS? Perhaps Networking then? Perhaps had started working? I'd be delighted to know, and maybe leave some piece of advice for me  wink.gif
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Folks,
Networking can be software intensive, especially when you try to write socket programs or SNA LU 6.2 services to service hundreds of requests in a timely manner, i.e. before clients timeout on a very shot period smile.gif

Seem like most folks think of networking in terms of setting up hardware and moving about. Happily, there is the software aspect of networking smile.gif

On top of that, on the software side, networking also involves interprocess communications over the network and this is software centric.
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(jimncf @ Sep 18 2012, 10:54 AM)
Folks,
Networking can be software intensive, especially when you try to write socket programs or SNA LU 6.2 services to service hundreds of requests in a timely manner, i.e. before clients timeout on a very shot period smile.gif

Seem like most folks think of networking in terms of setting up hardware and moving about.  Happily, there is the software aspect of networking smile.gif

On top of that, on the software side, networking also involves interprocess communications over the network and this is software centric.
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Perhaps I should consider Netcentric course rather than pure network. I could sharpen my network skill on experiences and certs. Some programming is fine, I guess, but .. hmm, idk. I certainly not going to make my current job as a career. Thanks though.

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