CAN ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT CCNA ??
PRICE AND WHERE CAN I STUDY?

i think the best choice is take computer science course n then take networking cert like CCNA....

but i dun have any physics background , computer science course in MMU got related to physics ? now i taking introduction to physics 1 in MMU also wanna cry edi ..

Same goes over here. I hate physics. And i think there is physics subjects in Computer Science in MMU. Thats why im not taking it.

which course study java, SAP and .net? CS got study these?

fit.mmu.edu.my/undergrad/files/Course structure 2008-2009.xls

Pray, where is the physics subjects in MMU's Computer Science Program?

dun have physics in Computer Science, only their foundation have it.

Computer Science is a 100% science field. Just as Haya said, some skills you learnt from Physics can be very useful in your Computer Science education. Although art stream students could enter this course, the science stream students will have more advantages. To know why it is considered a science course, please have a look at this - http://cs.gmu.edu/cne/pjd/PUBS/CACMcols/cacmApr05.pdf .

Btw, the course structure of MMU's CS course is here - http://fit.mmu.edu.my/academic/aca-cs-3y.html . The introductory to Physics is only available in the Foundation in IT. Most science stream students would not have problem with it.

This post has been edited by onimusha_m16: Feb 19 2009, 11:04 PM

anymore opinions?

when u work networking field will hv higher pay for starting
but u need to hv all the certs

there is no physics..CS about learning fundamental of computer, programming and basic networking(OSI layer)

tumpang thread
wanna ask
should i go for Application Programming or System Administration?i now going for programming but then i scared cant handle the 1st sem which is 4 programming subject..i scared i mix up all the languages
but i duno wat system administration about
.any idea?

how much the starting pay for a network specialist?

I'm a comp science grad and currently am working in networking industry.
My comp is an MNC and my job is to provide hardcore tech support to worldwide customers.

I love networking, I have CCNP and other certs. It's true that if you love something nothing can actually prevent u from learning by yourself. But as a matter of fact if you learn something which you will not really use in future it will slow down your growth.

If you see networking as your future then I guess it's better to do an IT networking course, not computer science.
With computer science we learn things like data structure or programming paradigm, which do not AT ALL in use in my current jobs. If I spent the time in learning OSPF BPG IPSec instead of these stuffs when I was an undergraduate, I guess today I have been further than where I currently am.

vertical growth or horizontal growth is a choice. Some ppl know many things but not in depth, some ppl know something but damn good.
i guess the former can b good presales n the latter can b good techie, both r well paid. 5 digits not a problem at all.

choice may depend on situation. for example a system guy knows well about AD, a network guy knows well about router/firewall, a db guy knows well about oracle, what if the comp runs a solution that needs to integrate all these things? single-sign-on requires gateway + AD/LDAP for example, and if network itself is complex and the AD is of black forest..hehe even L3 tech support can screw big time. POC screwed up, sales screwed up, boss screws tech guy, sales screws tech guy, everybody screw tech guys. think twice if u really wanna b tech LOL

have a friend CCIE in voice, vy young, 5 digits pay. Spent so much time in leanring voice stuff n today he's a voice expert. But if you asked him to troubleshoot Exchange i guess he'll surrender.

if u wanna b a high-paid techie, don play warcraft, waste your time only hehe.

ops dunno where im heading to hehe. learning is fun.

if success is easy to achieve, everybody has achieved it
work harder, you will eventually reap it

imho

its not only about prospect dude. you have to see what interests you. no point doing something you hate for the rest of your life.

the problem is dunno how to choose i cant see myself wat i can do in the future ...

base on jobstreet
most of them got starting 3k
but the requirement is quite high
need several certs

computer science is more into hard ware software, webpage design, programming, algebra, calculus,pre calculus, and abitbit of economics.
if u r good in logic, maths and memorize, can go for it.
so far its ok for me.. but i duno how will it be in degree.. study hard la =)

networking is more on demand
inti nilai offer ccna course which is highly on demand n high pay
need more info pm me
i stdy network computing n taking ccna

Folks,

When I started in networking, computer science just get started. You learn everything hands-on. Both PC and computer networks are so expensive that very few people get to play on that. Now, even MIT courses are FREE and online. So, the ONLY question is

Are you MOTIVATED to learn?? Do you love NETWORKING??

Ditto, you could learn computer science and so on.

Pay and so on..

There is a saying in the industry: The bigger that the IRON is, the bigger the pay.

A mainframe programmer will usually get paid more than a PC programmer.

An Unix system administrator will get paid more than a Windows administrator.

The same rule applies to network.

The BIGGER and MORE expensive that the network is, the more that you get paid.

So, what kind of networks that you work on determine how much that you get paid. It may not has to do with how smart you are. It has to do with whether you have the RIGHT kind of exposure.

For example, there are ONLY 2 3G network in Malaysia. There are not many people that work in those 3G network. If you happened to work in this area and someone needs you, you can demand a good pay for you.

Supply versus demand.

Computer science versus Network and so on degree

A good decent degree give you the foundation to go further. But, that is all. If someone has 2 years experience working in 3G network and I need someone to work on 3G network, do I care what kind of degree that a person has?? I may not even care whether a person has a degree to begin with.

A good networking / programmer and so on requires people that ACTUALLY love this area and willing to go through a lot of hands-on stuff. Are you that kind of person?? If you do, you will be hacking around even before talking about taking courses. If you don't, do something else.

http://www.webtorials.com/index.htm

This web site has MANY good networking stuff.

Dreamer