Computer Science and Networking which one focus on more maths ?

As some have mentioned, it is experience that is crucial if you want to work in the Malaysian IT industry. The RM3k salary one would see usually requires people to have 3-5 years of experience in the field.

My stand is still the same: there is no point being so specialised in your bachelor degree. Just do a normal (well, as normal as one can find in Malaysia at least) Computer Science degree, and consider doing a post graduate to specialise in Networking. If could be CCNA/CCNP, it could be a post graduate diploma in network administration.

dreamer101 has a point, but I think the link given is a bit hardcore. It assumes one has a firm foundation in the field and wants to keep up with changes. Its a bit like walking into a primary school and saying "To teach you guys to add and subtract, I'll start with calculus."

no need
cos i no physic in a level

The former.

haya,

Not necessary. Math and science is THE foundation for a person to go further. Networking is a VERY WIDE area. It ALL depends on how far that you want to go.

For example,

A) If you want to do Optical Networking, it will be good that you are STRONG in Physic.

B) How about if you want to do Wireless like 3G, Mobile WiMax, LTE and so on??

We have a joke in networking about the the 10 layers of networking. The TOP 3 layers are Philosophy, Religion, and Politic.

To do networking well, you need to understand human psychology too. Why certain network will do well in Korea versus Japan?? Why online multiplayers game matters in South Korea but it is IRRELEVANT in Japan?? Why expensive hand phones will sell in Asia but has no market in USA?? How does this change the market of mobile application in USA versus Asia?? How does this affect Wireless Network performance??

Networking is a VERY WIDE area. I spent 24 years in this area and I still find a lot of new stuff that I need to learn. I have a BSEE and MSEE. So, my MATH and SCIENCE foundation is STRONGER and it allows me to go further.

Dreamer

so that means Computer Science now doesn't concentrate much on Maths ? how about physics then ?

then how about networking then ???

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Added on March 9, 2009, 9:38 pmhello anyone ??

This post has been edited by samliang: Mar 9 2009, 09:38 PM

I think CS does have alot of emphasis on math.. Not just limited to binary numbers.. It sometimes gives me headaches (=P) Physics, like someone was saying earlier, helps with the logical thinking and learning the theoretical bits. Networking, some math involved but I think it's mostly logical thinking... I don't quite know how to describe networking.. you must really learn to love Linux (haha as I observed from a friend of mine who's a networking nut) and that.. the learning curve for networking involves alot of restarts, formatting and getting frustrated as to why your settings seem to screw up everything else =P

I took a degree in IT (software & networks major, kinda like a jack of all trades) but in it all I found some parts interested me more than others, so for me I found my love in web development. Networking theory was fun for me but I totally fail in practical lor, haha stuff like assigning addresses and DHCP and all that totally killed me.

And like most people say, it depends on what you're interested in. Like so far what you've studied in foundation, what kinda aspects interest you more? Go with what you like, if not it'd be horrible~

This post has been edited by scy_krylief: Apr 15 2009, 12:16 AM

same dilemma like me..
already apply UPU for major in networking
during diploma, i not have strong skill in programming..
programming just average..C/B result
so in the practical training i try to avoid programming..
i choose networking project..setup LAN networking for whole buildings
setup wireless, setting router/switch, set IP address and etc
at last i got A for my practical training..
so should i go for networking for my degree? need advice here..
nd i know networking also got programming subject..


thanks in advance

If you feel that your area of interest is in networking, then you can go for that. However, here's one very common pitfall among a lot of network engineers in the market. They tend to be so focused on networks and networks alone to the point that they're totally lost at anything else IT related outside of networks. For larger projects, this can make the network team a big pain to deal with, especially when it comes to troubleshooting of issues, and trying to pin down where exactly problems are at, when you get people with different backgrounds working together.

This is not to discourage you, but is to alert you to the common problems among a lot of people doing networking. The trick is to not allow yourself to run into the same problem, and you'll find that this will greatly increase your worth to any projects, and most importantly, future projects as well.

i think it is suitable for me..
during my diploma also, i learn many this that outside of my diploma scope.

so if i further my studies in networking..
i should learn more about IT world rite?

i also have a little bit of confused about this matters..
actually..this october i will having for my diploma..focused on computer engineering..but i am preferring to continue my study in Networking..
So..which university that have offered networking courses in Malaysia..?(either local/private)
The duration and the job prospects..?
It is okay if i continue to other courses..?because actually..the current course that i have taken now is quite difficult for me..
Anyway..comments and suggestions..also opinions are welcomed.

This post has been edited by fisrii: Aug 20 2009, 02:15 PM

if u talk about Cs in IPTa, i believe it is a very 'cold' course, just because students who get out of their 8 choices would be simply given CS courses in any ipta.

What do you means..?

majority of those who fail to secure their desired courses during ipta application would simply be placed into computer science programme at a given ipta.

so what does that imply to computer science? u gotta think urself.

Means that nowadays no student apply for computer science.

Its true that the lecturer in ipta not very good. In UM there are a few good lecturer all got "chased away" from UM. (I was hoping one of that lecturer to teach me in one of the course I will take.) But it still depend on one's talent and hardworking. I got senior now earning 5 digits in Denmark. But mostly go do other things, like sales, which is very normal...

My advice is if you want to do programming and have the money. Go private. As they are more concentrate on practical than theory (that the how it works in ipta, or even whole Malaysia's education system), although some lecturer might concentrate more on practical nowadays in ipta.

Btw, networking is a sub of CS. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This post has been edited by Dark Lord: Aug 21 2009, 12:04 PM

Networking is a subset of IT, not CS

huh???

I dunno if its UM problem, but we have Bachelor of Computer Science, majoring Networking

And for us, IT a.k.a. Information Technology is more to Multimedia, Webpage, etc

This post has been edited by Dark Lord: Aug 21 2009, 01:16 PM

I got no idea how the course in UM is structured, but things like media, HTML and so forth is classified under Multimedia, of which is another subset of IT.

The only network related thing that a CS course should contain are the lower levels of networking. Actually, its more towards Data Communications, instead of just being concentrated on just networking alone.

So in a way, I do find it a bit odd that there can be a Networking major, unless what they really mean is Data Communications, as Networking by itself should not be a CS major.

They got take CISCO and play with electronic... Of course they got learn about cable. I never know networking got classified as lower levels and higher levels... lol

Well, there's the 7 OSI levels of networking, of which is part of Data Communications.