i dunno what pedal effect i have should be used apart from distortion..
Effect setup, I dun know what effect i have to use..
Effect setup, I dun know what effect i have to use..
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Feb 16 2009, 05:41 PM, updated 17y ago
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i play metal and hard rock music....
i dunno what pedal effect i have should be used apart from distortion.. |
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Feb 16 2009, 05:57 PM
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what type of distortion u have?
well u can have a clean booster pedal, like Xotic RC Booster, maybe a drive pedal, u can also a compressor to tidy up a bit and a noise supressor/noise gate maybe an EQ pedal to dial in that sound, the choices are endless.. or u can try to follow the rig set-up of your favourite guitar god? |
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Feb 16 2009, 06:06 PM
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allright i will try how about if i use behringer "thing"...
i have behringer ultra metal 300 and boss Mega distortion 2... This post has been edited by ikram1991: Feb 16 2009, 06:07 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(ikram1991 @ Feb 16 2009, 05:41 PM) i play metal and hard rock music.... Apart from Distortion Pedal...i dunno what pedal effect i have should be used apart from distortion.. You can try getting the metal pedals. Such as....BOSS MT-2 or the BOSS ML-2 pedals. Or...Digitech's Death Metal pedal. (i'm using that now. ngehehe) All this pedals have high gain thus creating a better metal/hard rock sound. |
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Feb 17 2009, 06:29 PM
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owh yeah...
thank dude... |
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Feb 18 2009, 11:08 AM
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A delay is always great for solo'ing... plus a chorus would be great for those clean Metallica riffs...
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Feb 18 2009, 02:42 PM
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delay, chorus...maybe a wah too...
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Feb 18 2009, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE A delay is always great for solo'ing... plus a chorus would be great for those clean Metallica riffs... Oh yeah i love metallica |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:41 PM
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digitech metal master !!
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Feb 19 2009, 04:43 PM
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If you love metallica, a wah pedal is a MUST. I wouldn't be sure about using an MT-2 or a Digitech Death Metal. However, a Digitech Metal Master is good but it's only good for metal. Sounded like crap when I tried playing some ACDC with it.
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Feb 19 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Feb 19 2009, 04:43 PM) If you love metallica, a wah pedal is a MUST. I wouldn't be sure about using an MT-2 or a Digitech Death Metal. However, a Digitech Metal Master is good but it's only good for metal. Sounded like crap when I tried playing some ACDC with it. I read somewhere that Metallica actually prefers using their amp's gain rather than using a hi-gain pedal.But for those who's got normal amps and wants to capture Metallica's hi-gain sounds, use a pedal. And wah pedal is a must. Death Magnetic is annoyingly full of wah-wahs (but cool). Anybody knows how to recreate ACDC's sound? I've been using only my BOSS DS-1 pedal to create their sounds. |
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Feb 19 2009, 05:20 PM
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Instead of relying so much on Pedals for your distortion sound, a decent modeling amp like Vox's Valvetronix series is probably better. A simple (but versatile) Vox vt15 costs like, Rm550...... about the price of a slightly boutique distortion pedal.
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Feb 19 2009, 07:14 PM
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boss ml2 metalcore ftw
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Feb 19 2009, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE Deaths Magnetic is annoyingly full of wah-wahs (but cool). i like play song master of puppets and enter sandman... killer song dude... Added on February 19, 2009, 7:46 pmone more thing... my guitar is single coil only... but after this month i will got my ibanez GRG series This post has been edited by ikram1991: Feb 19 2009, 07:46 PM |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:14 AM
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metal muff!!!!
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Feb 20 2009, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(paulieDS1 @ Feb 19 2009, 05:04 PM) Anybody knows how to recreate ACDC's sound? I've been using only my BOSS DS-1 pedal to create their sounds. if using Boss, try the blues driver BD-2.i heard the Marshall jackhammer also can, but never tried it yet. anyway, as simple as it sounds, its not easy to re-create ACDC's sound. speaking of ACDC... This post has been edited by Everdying: Feb 20 2009, 12:44 AM |
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Mar 24 2009, 03:17 PM
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buy one multy effect, all in one dude, safe cost,
get one of zoom multy fx gerenti puas hati hehehehe |
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Mar 24 2009, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Feb 19 2009, 05:20 PM) Instead of relying so much on Pedals for your distortion sound, a decent modeling amp like Vox's Valvetronix series is probably better. A simple (but versatile) Vox vt15 costs like, Rm550...... about the price of a slightly boutique distortion pedal. as sweet as that may sound, if the amp does not come with a foot switch, it's probably useless. unless you wanna pay someone to do the switching. remember, metallica has sound engineer, you don't.playing metallica will definitely require a switchable distortion/overdrive unit. plus, i've figured that metallica is not really about gain. i believe MT-2 is more than capable for metallica than ML-2(this is the metal core, right?). |
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Mar 24 2009, 05:22 PM
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I support the Metal Muff suggestion, that thing is the king for the 80's thrash metal zone.
What amp are you using? The amp plays a much bigger role than pedals. You can have a huge ass pedalboard but running them into a lousy amp won't do much improvement to tone. |
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Mar 25 2009, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Mar 24 2009, 03:49 PM) as sweet as that may sound, if the amp does not come with a foot switch, it's probably useless. unless you wanna pay someone to do the switching. remember, metallica has sound engineer, you don't. Yup, Boss MT2 is better, I'm using it with DS-1.playing metallica will definitely require a switchable distortion/overdrive unit. plus, i've figured that metallica is not really about gain. i believe MT-2 is more than capable for metallica than ML-2(this is the metal core, right?). |
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Mar 25 2009, 10:12 AM
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metal muff again haha
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Mar 25 2009, 10:33 AM
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buy multieffects laa.
the one with amp modelling. u got all in one and portable also. and it's so much fun to tried find the sound yourself. and it's fun also to give up at the end and lazily go to internet to find the patch. hahahaa.. |
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Mar 27 2009, 07:59 AM
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go with the multy FX 1st
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Mar 27 2009, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(crazychris @ Feb 20 2009, 12:14 AM) METAL MUFF FTW!! QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Mar 27 2009, 07:59 AM) yeah..for starters best start with multy fx...so u dont have to pening2 search what is the best pedal to use..but i recommend later if u want a gud distortion pedal or should i say brutal distortion type of tone,use EHX METAL MUFF.. add noise surpressor and eq..then its up to u if u want other optional pedals to use.. This post has been edited by apexiwildchild: Mar 27 2009, 08:20 AM |
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Mar 27 2009, 09:28 AM
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someone once told me that u can get practically any sound with a DS-1 + TS808 + Boss EQ & Noise suppressor & Compressor sustainer + Wah pedal + Delay.....but if u're an effects guy,throw in some chorus and flanger.....basically its up to u....gotta go around n try some stuff before deciding....
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Mar 27 2009, 01:34 PM
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i tink tats for the TONE guys
after playing for sometime, wen u get great sounding guitars u start to appreciate TONE den u wud wan less gain... too much gain and u cant get to hear tone ya tats the classic pedals wah > ds1 > ts808 > eq > chorus > phaser > delay no need noise suppresor, compressor sustainer haha |
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Mar 27 2009, 02:01 PM
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1 question here. How is DS1 more popular than DS2 when DS2 has DS1 basic tone + another turbo mode?
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Mar 27 2009, 02:12 PM
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Yup... MFX is really convenient and provides a decent enough sound for high gain playing...
Some clips of the POdxt LIVE: http://www.4shared.com/dir/2255471/63beb6e/sharing.html |
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Mar 27 2009, 02:21 PM
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I'm using a Micro Metal Muff for all Metallica/Megadeth stuffs.
it can capture the tone of the pre-Black album days pretty damn accurately, provided you have a 'metal' enough guitar. for more modern metal, the high gain models on my Vox AD30VT seems to be able to cut it, although slightly lacking in gain. but yeah. for '80's thrash metal and everything along that line, I daresay you can't go wrong with the Metal Muff |
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Mar 27 2009, 02:43 PM
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should try electro-harmonix stuff.....wicked man
Added on March 27, 2009, 2:45 pm QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 02:12 PM) Yup... MFX is really convenient and provides a decent enough sound for high gain playing... yo bro...i use POD XT Live too....do u use the EQ function in it?i dont really know how to use that function....Some clips of the POdxt LIVE: http://www.4shared.com/dir/2255471/63beb6e/sharing.html This post has been edited by Iriz: Mar 27 2009, 02:45 PM |
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Mar 27 2009, 02:57 PM
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Yup... It is really helpful for shaping your tone...
It's just like the Graphic EQ on the Mark series amp... The preamp goes into the graphic eq and acts as the final tone-shaping tool before your sound "goes out"... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 02:57 PM) Yup... It is really helpful for shaping your tone... yeah i know but i dont know how to set it up to shape my tone...in the end ijust dont use it but i want to...It's just like the Graphic EQ on the Mark series amp... The preamp goes into the graphic eq and acts as the final tone-shaping tool before your sound "goes out"... when u say Mark series amp did u mean the Mesa Boogie Mark series? |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:07 PM
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Yup...
I haven't touch the EQ settings for quite some time... But IIRC, you'll need to choose which frequency to boost with one knob and how much to boost/cut with another knob... At the end of the day, it is the graphic eq on the mesas, just in numbers... I normally boost my lows and highs, and cut a little of the mids... But my main sound from the amp modeler is still middy... I like the mids to be eq-ed this way... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 03:07 PM) Yup... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......like that ka??????i will definitely try when i get back from work...tomorrow i have a show so quite worried about my tone....my band members always say my guitar is abit treble-ish....i want to balance things out....i play alot of solos and i want my notes to be clear....I haven't touch the EQ settings for quite some time... But IIRC, you'll need to choose which frequency to boost with one knob and how much to boost/cut with another knob... At the end of the day, it is the graphic eq on the mesas, just in numbers... I normally boost my lows and highs, and cut a little of the mids... But my main sound from the amp modeler is still middy... I like the mids to be eq-ed this way... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:24 PM
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You can download the clips and see whether you like it or not, I'm pretty happy with the Under the Influence sound...
I've uploaded my PODxt LIVE patches... It's more or less the same with the patches I used for the recordings... http://www.4shared.com/dir/2255471/63beb6e/sharing.html This post has been edited by Rossie: Mar 27 2009, 03:25 PM |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 03:24 PM) You can download the clips and see whether you like it or not, I'm pretty happy with the Under the Influence sound... coool man....thanks a million..wat amp modelling do u use and do u use a distortion or just use the gain from the amp models?I've uploaded my PODxt LIVE patches... It's more or less the same with the patches I used for the recordings... http://www.4shared.com/dir/2255471/63beb6e/sharing.html |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:33 PM
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I've uploaded two patches... One using the Cali Crunch (Mesa MkIIC+) and the other using the treadplate (Mesa Dual Recto)...
They are distinctly different though... The Mark cuts through really well, generally more middy sounding... I've used this patch for all my clips, and use this as my main sound on stage too... The Recto has a more scooped sound, great for Metallica... Sounds much more saturated to me... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 03:33 PM) I've uploaded two patches... One using the Cali Crunch (Mesa MkIIC+) and the other using the treadplate (Mesa Dual Recto)... hmm.....i use the diamondplate (triple rect) and bomber uber (bogner uberschall) for my rhythms and heavy stuff respectively and i use the diezel lead (which is awesome, really cuts thru the mid and my notes are quite clear) for my solos with all of them running thru the tube screamer....for my clean i use the double reverb which i love so much.....They are distinctly different though... The Mark cuts through really well, generally more middy sounding... I've used this patch for all my clips, and use this as my main sound on stage too... The Recto has a more scooped sound, great for Metallica... Sounds much more saturated to me... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:42 PM
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I tried the expansion pack... But then found that I still the old sound... So I'd stick to it...
But the diezel does sound impressive... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 03:42 PM) I tried the expansion pack... But then found that I still the old sound... So I'd stick to it... yeah the diezel is pretty sweet....i find that its alot more convenient to setup ur gear by using gear box...the one thing i wish that the XT Live must have is the dual tone capability....being a Mark Tremonti fan, he mixes two different amps for his rhythm stuff which produces his signature tone...and my cousin has the X3 Live which is capable of doing that which i am quite jealous heheheh....but i hear X3 Live has a lot of problems....But the diezel does sound impressive... |
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Mar 27 2009, 03:55 PM
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Very happy with my XTL, so never really thought of the X3L...
One thing I would like to see on the XTL is the effects loop... So that I can use the four cable method with a tube amp... |
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Mar 27 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 03:55 PM) Very happy with my XTL, so never really thought of the X3L... not much of an effects guy...i just use some delay,phaser and wah with some reverb...thats all....hahaha...but yeah, im quite happy with my XTL.....cant wait to try it out live tomorrow....One thing I would like to see on the XTL is the effects loop... So that I can use the four cable method with a tube amp... btw, do u run ur XTL thru the fx return behind the amp or do u go direct into the PA or wat? and do u know how to use the tone correction function? |
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Mar 27 2009, 05:13 PM
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I chose the direct-into-mixer setting... And leave it there...
I'll always try to run it direct into a mixer... Even when I'm running it into an amp... Preferably the return input, just to bypass the preamp section... |
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Mar 27 2009, 06:36 PM
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dunt trust the amps, unless its reli gud
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Mar 27 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(Rossie @ Mar 27 2009, 05:13 PM) I chose the direct-into-mixer setting... And leave it there... yeah....i'd run it thru the return input too....but i thought in order to run it direct into mixer u've gotta have a DI box?I'll always try to run it direct into a mixer... Even when I'm running it into an amp... Preferably the return input, just to bypass the preamp section... |
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Mar 27 2009, 08:22 PM
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i use amp distortion..
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Mar 30 2009, 03:28 PM
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use fuzz pedal and sleep with it..haha!
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Mar 31 2009, 11:48 AM
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how much is the multi efx? and what brand do u recommend?
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Mar 31 2009, 12:19 PM
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vox tonelab le for the tone.
never believe it sounded so good until i got myself 1. last time i bought from ck music for Rm875. They said it was clearance stock but just try ask them |
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Mar 31 2009, 12:25 PM
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