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id86
post Feb 26 2007, 09:19 AM

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my first lapping...intel stock heatsink.quite satisfy with it rclxms.gif

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after apply thermal paste thumbup.gif

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post Feb 26 2007, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(id86 @ Feb 26 2007, 09:19 AM)
my first lapping...intel stock heatsink.quite satisfy with it  rclxms.gif

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the thermal paste looks like not widely spread evenly.
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post Feb 26 2007, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Feb 26 2007, 03:32 PM)
the thermal paste looks like not widely spread evenly.
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i just want to test it...only attach to the proc for a few seconds tongue.gif

thats why it seems not spread evenly
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post Mar 8 2007, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Feb 12 2007, 11:13 PM)
Even with 1500 I can get a mirror finish with the help of some metal polish. Have to wash the heatsink after that though. I'll do a guide on that, around or after CNY. Will be cleaning my heatsinks anyway.

Btw, if you want some decent 1500 I can help you get it. Send it over by normal post in envelope.
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By usin' polish, u might b introducing impurities onto the HS surface. This may affect the heat transfer capabilities negatively
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Feb 12 2007, 10:21 PM)
2000 is quite hard to get in Penang, you have any idea where? I can find up to 1500 only in some of the better shops.

But anyway, from my experience, the eveness of the surface matters more than the finish. A shiny mirror finish with an uneven surface will perform much worse than a flat surface and a not-so-shiny surface.
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Ask bombman he can find for u, i got mine frm him.
Actually u dont need till 2000 grit 2 get mirror finish, 1500 oso can but it require lots of hardwork and continuous sanding. I did it 2 my heatsink, almost 1 hour just to make it mirror shine.. imagine the feel of my arm after that sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 8 2007, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(bombman @ Mar 8 2007, 01:51 AM)
By usin' polish, u might b introducing impurities onto the HS surface. This may affect the  heat transfer capabilities negatively
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yep, metal polish= Big no no.
it's just for cosmetic purpose, it will degrade the heat transfer capability.

mirror shine looks cool and all, but the only one that can see it it's the proc tongue.gif

if you really nead to acheive morror shine, do it without the use of polishing compound.
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QUOTE(bombman @ Mar 8 2007, 01:51 AM)
By usin' polish, u might b introducing impurities onto the HS surface. This may affect the  heat transfer capabilities negatively
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Question is, how much of an effect? I'm guessing not more than 1C.
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post Mar 8 2007, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Mar 8 2007, 05:45 PM)
Question is, how much of an effect? I'm guessing not more than 1C.
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very minor until not more than 1'C
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post Mar 8 2007, 10:28 PM

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this lapping process remind me when i'm doing my lab excercise while i'm in 2nd year at Uni.1stly i'm using different grid of sandpaper like the one used by TS.then i move to lapping machine with rotating mechanism at the midle.i add some alumina powder to the machine and begin to lap the metal.the result very2 good la...mirror shining untill u can see your own face very clear...much more near to glass mirror... thumbup.gif

p/s:that time i have to lap from freaking corroded metal to mirror finish.that @#$$ technician really lazy to prepare some other good metal.take very long long time to be finish.... blush.gif

will try to slip in to the lab to lap my heatsink some other time.wish me luck..hehe...
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i guess if you are not so anal about 1 degree, you wouldnt lap your heatsink in the first place....
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post Mar 8 2007, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(seanl @ Mar 8 2007, 10:29 PM)
i guess if you are not so anal about 1 degree, you wouldnt lap your heatsink in the first place....
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Good point. Though its hard to argue something that can't be backed up with results because its near impossible to measure accurately.
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post Mar 8 2007, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Mar 8 2007, 10:39 PM)
Good point. Though its hard to argue something that can't be backed up with results because its near impossible to measure accurately.
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yup...some ppl lapped and get much temp different and some get few degree oni. so 1 degree for those getting little different in lapping for them is hell damm important!. but for me tat get 9 degree drop....i dun care haha biggrin.gif

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Mar 8 2007, 10:28 PM)
this lapping process remind me when i'm doing my lab excercise while i'm in 2nd year at Uni.1stly i'm using different grid of sandpaper like the one used by TS.then i move to lapping machine with rotating mechanism at the midle.i add some alumina powder to the machine and begin to lap the metal.the result very2 good la...mirror shining untill u can see your own face very clear...much more near to glass mirror... 

p/s:that time i have to lap from freaking corroded metal to mirror finish.that @#$$ technician really lazy to prepare some other good metal.take very long long time to be finish....

will try to slip in to the lab to lap my heatsink some other time.wish me luck..hehe...


u study what course? material engineering?

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Mar 8 2007, 10:50 PM)
u study what course? material engineering?
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yup..materials engineering.Y??same with u arr?? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Mar 8 2007, 11:37 PM)
yup..materials engineering.Y??same with u arr?? icon_idea.gif
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hehe...noler....but my bro is... tongue.gif
u that machine for lapping i think is better than our hand alot. coz our hand sometimes can not be always balance.
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post Mar 9 2007, 09:57 PM

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i wish i also can lap my HS in my lab...
not enough time to go there...class to pack sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2007, 10:14 PM

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i still dont understand how u all lap ur heatsink till mirror shine
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post Mar 9 2007, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Mar 9 2007, 10:14 PM)
i still dont understand how u all lap ur heatsink till mirror shine
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You should try it yourself first. Get an old heatsink (preferably aluminium as its easier) and lap it flat with course sandpaper. Gradually move on to higher grades of sandpaper, around 1000 onwards it will be smooth enough to see a faint reflection. After that if you polish it with metal polish you will get a mirror shine, but its not necessary.
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Mar 9 2007, 11:19 PM)
You should try it yourself first. Get an old heatsink (preferably aluminium as its easier) and lap it flat with course sandpaper. Gradually move on to higher grades of sandpaper, around 1000 onwards it will be smooth enough to see a faint reflection. After that if you polish it with metal polish you will get a mirror shine, but its not necessary.
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kayy..i have an old aluminium heatsink..but the thing i dont understand is how to lap it...i read at somewhere and it says put some water on the sand sandpaper and soap on the heatsink...and metal polish is? car polish or what? :LOL:nooob here
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Mar 10 2007, 12:37 PM)
kayy..i have an old aluminium heatsink..but the thing i dont understand is how to lap it...i read at somewhere and it says put some water on the sand sandpaper and soap on the heatsink...and metal polish is? car polish or what? :LOL:nooob here
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You need some sandpaper meant for sanding metal, they usually are waterproof and typically have a grain of at least 300. You should start with ~300, make sure you use a flat surface like a piece of glass (flatness is more important than anything else). You will need some water on the sandpaper or you will not be able to do it smoothly. Soap is not necessary, but washing the heatsink with soap after you're done will help remove all the metal powder stuck on it. Examples of metal polish are brasso and autosol (my favourite). For aluminium, its impossible to get a full mirror finish without polish because it tarnishes too quickly. Its easier to get a mirror finish on copper but it takes longer because copper is harder (keras) than aluminium.
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post Mar 13 2007, 01:35 AM

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Heres some pix of my tuniq before and after lapping

Before

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After
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Temps:

Before lapping: 40'c, 1 day after installing, actually same temps as BTVX, but BTVX running faster @ 1780rpm +-, 120mm Vizo UV Led Fan

After lapping: 36'c, this is immediately after installing
Fan: tuniq stock fan @ 1260rpm +-


TIM: Arctic Silver 5, Arctic Ceramique on heatpipes/base

Temp Monitor: Coretemp

Fan Monitor: Asus Probe II

Another reason for the better temps could also be acounted to the fact that second time round, i mounted the tuniq better.

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