guys, N85 vs 5800XM.. can decide?? thnx in adavance

iOS vs Android here.. X10 use the older version of android, but recently about to get their updates to eclair (android 2.1)
I think both of them are quite good at handling apps since both used 1Ghz processor (i dun know differences between snapdragon and A4). but if u want many apps, maybe iphone 4..

about the camera thingy, the colour u mentioned, did u mean if it is oversaturated is ok? because iphone4 camera's pictures are slightly oversaturated. means the colour is too much bright, and not natural. x10 wins for the camera thing.

x10's 4" screen is large enough for watching movies compared to 3.5" on the iphone4. iphone 4 comes with retina display, which has more pixel density despite its smaller screen compared to x10. as for me, i'm not really care about that. but if u want that, since pictures will be slightly sharp, take a look at iphone4 1st.

IMHO, i still choose x10, for slightly lower price suggest u to try both 1st, as what important here is this is ur phone

SE aspen is winmo 6.5, while N E5 is a symbian smartphone. aspen's screen is touch enabled though.

i'm not sure about both OS'es, cuz never used a winmo b4. but for symbian (N E5), its pretty simple to use for me, including the organizer etc as it is not much different as in the nokia e71/72. the keypad is OK, but suggest u guys to try both phone first as it depends on our finger size to say how comfortable we are for both keypad.

about the GPS, all nokia now comes with free navigation, ovi maps. its pretty usable. thus, u dun need to pay for any GPS software such as garminXT, Papago etc.. aspen with the winmo.. I'm not sure. but as far as i know, only nokia phone's have the feature of free GPS.

i heard that SE's after service is not that good as nokia's (correct me if I'm wrong), so, i may vote for E5 rather than aspen.

u guys can read both aspen review and the e5 at the gsmarena for further references..

oh, forget to mention, e5 is very comfortable in hand for its curvature, + the metal battery cover feel solid

This post has been edited by wuwah: Nov 7 2010, 05:27 PM

this is comparison thread, recommendations is here
try ask there, surely will get more recommendations
it'll be nokia n8 if i were u, since u didn't give any budget.

correction, c6-01 is 3.2" capasitive.. ot 3.5".
3.5" is c7


htc aria has better screen and better resolution compared to x10mini pro. x10mini pro's low resolution have some limitations to the apps.

This post has been edited by wuwah: Nov 15 2010, 03:22 PM

err.. do u take photography as 1st priority? if yes, i think, n8 is uncomparable with XT720..

nk5800 is too old i think. maybe x6 is comparable here. for what is better, camera wise, maybe vivaz/x6 (not comparing MP here.) but x6 is capacitive while vivaz is resistive touchscreen.
user experience, x8 with android is better IMO. take note that nokia comes with free navigation if u want free GPS. if not, android have papago x5 for 100+ i think.

cons, W995 is a slider phone, which some have a bad experience as some slider have a ribbon issue. vivaz is symbian from SE, as known, SE hardly continuously support their symbian phones (software wise).

vivaz taken better picture, although both are 8MP snapper its HD video is awesome too

all are from different OSes. N900=Maemo, milestone=Android, touch pro=winmo 6.5
camerawise, N900 camera performance is better IMO. maemo is highly customizable. and n900 web browser support full flash (can play FB games normally, even use FB's chat like PC)
milestone have android 2.1 on board. good user experience. android have slightly more apps compared to OVI, and growing.
maybe milestone win over N900 for the user interface, plus it is capacitive touchscreen, vs n900 resistive
and, touch pro's keyboard is crown as best mobile phones QWERTY keyboard ever (AFAIK). but, winmo 6.5 is rather too old.

captivate is basically galaxy s, with AT&T logo. i'm not sure about the unlocking thingy, but, since u'd buy from a shop, make a deal with the shop first in case any unlocking issue u may faced after buy (all, include 3g internet connection etc.)

bada OS have a very good reputation as the best social networking OS ever AFAIK. if the number of apps u are looking for, maybe not bada, as it is still young and growing, compared to android on captivate.

and btw, why dun u look for more promising SE x10? it is an android 2.1, + 4" screen AP price had fall below 1400 MYR i think

u tried d with the shop? if the captivate is fully functional like ordinary phones, than, it is ok to use here then

1st, what do u want for your phone?
do u want it as your toy? i mean, lots of apps, games to kill your bored? if yes, definately iphone 4. about the battery of iphone4, since 3gs, it is told that the battery is fast drain. but maybe it depends on your usage too.

if u use your phone as your tools, for your email, msn, ym, documents, organizer, less gaming, then, go for bb Bold. BIS will allowed u to online constantly, for immediate email to received.

these two depends on your usage. games, go for iphone. organizer, go for bb.
hope this will help

dun worry, if u get iphone, it also have apps for organizer. because bb users usually didn't play much games on their devices (bb market has less games, it have some, but not that as many as on iphone). they use that mostly for constantly online, update facebook and twitter, email, messanging. b4 that, are u familiar with touchscreen? or u are more comfortable on qwerty as on bb? suggest u to try both 1st b4 made any decision as this is your phone and u will use for long time.

u see, if what important to u is the constantly online, bb is the right choice. bb use the BIS which will give u instant email, not like others.
since u will sign up for a dataplan, than, iphone also can do that i think. just, the email u may get will be a little bit delayed, not like on the bb.

since u want to have some games, then, iphone is suitable for u. reason, iphone have more apps, so u can try play lots of games available on them. iphone also can organize your email with apps of course. it has organizer also. u can online with it too since u have the dataplan, for your fb, twit. iphone is touchscreen, therefore, it has larger screen for your viewing pleasure of any pdf file etc. btw, iphone4 have the "cool" effect when people around u looks what u have.

conclusion, go get the iphone if u think u want (large number of) apps.
go get bb if u want superior BIS+qwerty (sacrificing screen size).

err.. nokia X6 8GB laa.. 6700 didn't have wifi
if u can bear with resistive touchscreen, u may want to checkout nokia C6, it have slide keyboard

if u need keyboard, definitely milestone better. if not, X10. bear in mind that the keyboard add some weight to milestone. plus, milestone still considered as slim qwerty phone though
by now, x10 didn't have multitouch. but news said that SE is working on it now (will come after updates). X10 also got 8mp camera, with HD video record, compared to milestone, with only 5mp. and IMO, X10 got the best camera now among Androids phones. X10 got 4" screen compared to 3.7" on milestone. milestone got motorola patented crystal talk® for better call output.
emm.. I'm vote for X10 for 8mp+HD record vs 5mp on milestone, and the screen size. oh, X10 got timescape and mediascape software in it. tried d, it is cool~

both already have android 2.1, eclair, which enabled bluetooth file transfer between any devices. and yes, u can use only wifi if u want. but any widget that need to be constantly updated will not be updated untill u have wifi around.

hope u get some idea on both.

got la.. milestone ori around RM1600+++ i think. can try search in garage sale
android 2.x enabled bluetooth file transfer. can ask the method in android section cuz i'm not android user the previous android version, which is android 1.6 donut didn't enable bluetooth file transfer, but make possible using application. thats as far as i know read something about the apps called astro file manager. maybe thats the thing. not sure

which X3 are u trying to compare to? i try to guest, maybe that is nokia x3-02 touch and type right?

well, OS wise, samsung galaxy 5 wins. no offence. x3-02 is symbian s40 , while elm is not even a smartphone (it is feature phone) camera wise, samsung galaxy 5 lost for its 2mp BUT, IMO, unless camera is your preferences, samsung galaxy 5 is the best. android got some apps to kill your bored
one more, if u are heavy messanger, please dun go for touchscreen as on galaxy 5. u need hardware keyboard. if that is the case, go for nokia X3-02. it is one sexxay phone~ the cons, as on any s40, no multitask. but the phone made possible, just for music player though
ELM is totally out of the game if i were u, since it depends totally on the fastport connector. no 3.5mm headjack which is why i can't accept (old, and some new) SE phones (well, i own one b4, their design is cool , but yes, a bit regret.. ) unless u dun want a smartphone (and can accept the fastport), feature phone like ELM is good enough.

so, how is it? it all depends on your usage

if camera is what important, of course nokia N8 is the best, and worthy to topup. if camera is not so important (maybe coz u are the type that didn't use often), and want the screen size as same a N8, C7 is wise to choose (C7 is 8GB while N8 is 16GB, C7 got 1GB ROM while N8 got 512MB). C6-01 is a 3.2" symbian^3. means, about the same as C7, but, the screen is smaller to 0.3", BUT, the screen is nokia clear black display, which is superb outdoor. these are their comparison. if your budget are up to N8, better go for N8.. unless, well, u think u dun use the camera much, and.. err.. N8 is a bit thicker than C7 which is sexy phone

i vote for desire HD. well, processor, all are 1GB (SGS=hummingbird, desireHD=snapdragon, iphone=apple A4). some people said that hummingbird handle processing more efficient.
just.. the iphone is a bit... overprice IMO that's the reason they are on the same price range (but without contract, iphone4 is crazy expensive to me).
desire HD is 4.3" compared to SGS which is 4.0" (rite?? lazy to check ). desire HD got the newly HTC fast boot. although S-LCD is not comparable to s-AMOLED as on SGS, but, if u can accept that, desire HD is best. err.. one more, SGS got the front camra while desire HD don't have that. take note that desire HD is a bit bulkier compared to SGS. and it got dual-LED flash, but SGS got no flash. about galaxy s vibrant t959, i think it is not really wise to take an android phone with no 3g as some widget need to be updated constantly, which give u, with 3g, instant update, compared to no 3g.

both desire and X10 is android, so, in terms of apps, both win over N8's symbian^3 that is still young. but symbian^3 is very improved in terms of user experience compared to previous symbian. so, if number of apps is your choice quality, sure android better. desire's price is a bit higher compared to X10, which AP now cost less than 1.4k, and ori is around 1.8k. but desire's built quality is superb.
camera wise, no phone in the world can win nokia N8's 12mp+xenon. X10's camera is also good compared to desire, which IMO, X10's camera is nicest among android so far.
screen, desire 3.7", N8 3.5", X10 4.0". bot, desire no longer comes with AMOLED, so, in terms of screen quality, nokia N8's AMOLED sure nicest between all. desire's S-LCD is 2nd beating X10TFT.
only N8 comes with front camera.
both desire and X10 got 1Ghz processor, compared to only 680Mhz on N8, but take note that symbian is one efficient OS, the speed is acceptable, unlike others OS if given such processor.
these are the major comparison of these 3 .

yeap. if photography is the preferences, N8 la~

never heard about the lag problems. as far as i know, hummingbird perform better than old 1Ghz snapdragon as on desire. maybe the lag problems is when using gps (i think read somewhere that this is the major letdown for SGS so far, or maybe solved d by software update). personal review, i can't help much as i dun own these (too expensive for me ), maybe u can try ask their own owner on their own respective thread

i already answer this on recommendation thread..