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post May 18 2009, 12:27 AM

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I went pass by HSL this afternoon so i drop in to see is there any interesting Tv. There is a 50X10 on display so I went to check it out. The first thing is the reflection that I wanted to test out. When the picture is bright , of there there is very minimal reflection, but once on a darker scene, the whole screen is just like a mirror. The lighting condition is bright just like my living room so I thought that would be a good way to judge how it would perform in my living room. I find that the reflections is just too much once the screen gets dark. I can see everything and myself on the screen. If the Full HD version is anything like this, then I will not go for the plasma as its just not suitable for me. Its best use in HT room which you can darken the room. I find that the black is black but is really spoil by the reflection.
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post Jun 3 2009, 02:20 PM

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I will come when everyone who wants to buy a big screen tv has bought the 42", then when the 50" comes they will regret and buy another one. Marketing strategy.
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Jun 3 2009, 04:12 PM)
There are news that the TH-P50S10K will be launch somewhere in August (quite reliable source... will have to kill u if I tell u) smile.gif

So, if you really craven a 50", then wait abit, else..... make do with a 42" tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 5 2009, 12:30 PM)
why dont you give yourself a try on plasma tv?

5 years warranty gives you hassle-free situation.  rolleyes.gif
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panasonic do not offer 5 years warranty anymore! My friend just bought one and the warranty is only 2 years now.
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post Jun 7 2009, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 6 2009, 11:34 PM)
It's 2+1 la...... don't mislead people again la  shakehead.gif
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So this is not misleading?

QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 5 2009, 12:30 PM)
why dont you give yourself a try on plasma tv?

5 years warranty gives you hassle-free situation.  rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 7 2009, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 7 2009, 01:08 AM)
well, he is the authorised panasonic reseller, i trust him more than you  icon_rolleyes.gif
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So are you saying Panasonic still giving 5 years warranty? Can he guarantee you that?

I'm not here to discredit anyone or Panasonic but the fact is that Panasonic do not give 5 years warranty anymore. You could purchase extended warranty but that is not warranty from Panasonic. I'm not here to lick anyone's ball so they will like me, but all I am saying is the fact Pana Don't give 5 years Warranty Anymore!!!


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post Jun 9 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(qsil @ Jun 9 2009, 11:43 AM)
guys....finally i got the ANSWER biggrin.gif

well for sometime, I have been following this topic of LCD , plasma, which is better, what brand, specs etc etc....

as the day of moving draws nearer, I have decided to go for SHARP AQUOS A85m however since the shop is a recommended contact by some fren, I was told instead to get the A77M; which I did, irregardless of the numerous times I have been told, your astro will look shitty, your soccer match will be blurred, f1 is going to be fizzling..things like that.

Well truth to be told, I just went for it since the deal for a 46 inch a77m in the market was around 7.1k however I got it for 6.3k (shop is a fren's contact) tongue.gif

Well initially watching astro is slightly terrible......after settlig down in my new house. I finally got sometime to fiddle around with the settings.

N by depressing the SHARPNESS..........voila ......its just as good as watching astro on my old CRT 29 inchi tongue.gif

n football , f1 are no prob as well......dun need monster cables or watsover just a direct selection of -8 out of the range from -10 -> +10

so all in all.....i would say ..SHARP has indeed lived up to its name....n thanks to SHARP...otherwise I might have parted with 18k for the pioneer KURO....which is good for initial viewing but after a while u will notice the lag of motion ( although its supposed to be on mucher higher bit ie. 32 if not mistaken as compared to a77m is having only 10 bit)

n of coz...since its a plasma...well the black is purely black smile.gif but again...very very reflective since its a glass panel tongue.gif

anyways....no hard feelings towards the KURO supporters...end of the day...I am just a willing buyer for SHARP AQUOS, and more importantly to spend with the dime's worth , that's all !!! peace n out biggrin.gif
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Great you like your Sharp LCD tv. Never believe in all the things you read in here. This forum has many firm supporter of Plasma Tv giving very bias info against LCD tv which is very misleading.

I personally think that the plasma tv are great but like you say, the reflection my main concern. Most of people i know of who prefer LCD over plasma cited reason that the plasma reflective screen looks bad. However if you have dedicated HT room and watch movies in the dark, then plasma can reward you with great pictures.

But the sad things is that many LCD manufacturers are adopting glossy screens just to make the TV looks good.

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post Jun 9 2009, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(thk38 @ Jun 9 2009, 10:06 PM)
Spot some bargain over at
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New set

Sony S400 = RM1799.00
Panasonic 42X10 = RM2800.00
Samsung 40A450 = RM2699.00
Samsung 46A530 = RM4999.00

And so on... Price going down pretty quick.
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42X10 now only Rm2800....its time to get one for my toilet. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2009, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 10 2009, 12:16 AM)
LMAO! hall still using old sony 32", wanna get X10 for toilet? Stop pretend to be loaded la peasant. If can get x10 for toilet, need to get used velodyne 12R without remote?
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As a matter of fact, my old 32" cost more than the 42X10 so getting the 42X10 for the toilet is nothing unusual. As for the 12R, its only RM1300, I might move it to my toilet as my toilet sub too! BTW, forgive me cos I'm too poor to afford a remote control for the 12R lah, but i think if I offer to sell the 12R for Rm1300 now, i am sure it will be sold instantly.

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post Jun 13 2009, 10:00 AM

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Why care if the panel is NeoPDP or not. As long as the picture quality is great then i won't care at all. After all, I read some reviews mention that the NeoPDP only provides a little savings in power usage only.
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post Jun 13 2009, 09:52 PM

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The showdown begins all over again.
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post Jun 14 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Reix @ Jun 14 2009, 01:09 AM)
If I use my TV for movie I will definately choose Plasma, no question ask.
But my usage is like 70% PS3 gaming and 30% blu-ray movie.
So far I don't see anyone who says good thing about plasma give any comment how plasma peform in gaming.
So I am still deciding whether to get Panasonic TH-P42S10K or Sharp LC42A77M
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Plasma is just as good as LCD or better for gaming. Just make sure you get the FULL HD plasma to take advantages of many full HD game.
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post Jun 30 2009, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yj-kl @ Jun 30 2009, 02:49 PM)
wah, that's a really good price, what kind of camera?
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with a few hundred more, you can get full hd. save you from any upgrade in the future.
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post Jul 6 2009, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 6 2009, 10:01 PM)
A recent group test for your reading pleasure: http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps...attr=editorial1
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Hmmm..this is a very interesting comparison. Panasonic plasma not as great as LCD in terms of picture and color? That is very surprising considering that fact that plasma has always been better in color. It says a lot about how much LCD has progress.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 29 2009, 09:46 AM)
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funny, once upon a time I had a friend who swore that handphones will never be less than RM500. He told me about the raw materials crap story too.

Friend, I used to use my company's Mobira Talkman on Atur 450 mobile phone. It was something like RM18,000.

Today, the Rm89 Nokia 1200 is far smaller, cheaper and better yet much cheaper. How come they never stopped production?

My Sony analogue handycam cost RM20,000 too when I first bought. Funny how come can get a Sony hadnycam now for RM800 even. But how come they never stopped production?

You need to start shaving first....
you are talking without logic or manufacturing background.. this theoretical RM999 50inch plasma will be 30-40KG thing made out of 30KG ot metal, plastics and electronics.. bos you know how much is raw material for 30KGs worth of grade A virgin raw material parts (without processing/manufacturing/molding/metal stamping) or not?
those examples you given are 100gm to 2kg items.
also, due to bulk weight, significant distribution and warehousing costs will already eat into a RM999 plasma's retail price.
besides unless you can show me a RM999 plasma, your assumption of a RM999 is dead wrong.

you can't even show me a RM999 34inch jap brand CRT TV, still want to talk so much.
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Not so long ago, men look up the sky at night and see the moon and no one believe we could ever get to the moon. But not so long later, man step foot on the moon.

Not so long ago, men never believe we could ever fly, but today Airasia is flying people all over the over and sometimes for free! Its even cheaper sometimes to fly airasia then to take the bus!

Nothing is impossible. smile.gif
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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:40 AM)
biggrin.gif Thanks bro, too bad that this information has little use to me cause I am living in Kuching  tongue.gif  Anyway I think I have a clear idea in the difference in PQ after comparing S and C series.

Will just wait for a while to see if there is any price drop in the blu-ray players. The prices for plasma set is droping like free fall recently, 720p 50" is less than 4k now  sweat.gif  Hope this wave will hit the blu soon ...
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The price of bluray players dropping is useless. Its the price of the movies that is stopping bluray adoption at least in Malaysia. How many people can afford RM150 for a bluray movies? I can give you the player for free but you will not enjoy many movies at that price.
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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Aug 29 2009, 08:21 AM)
Are you my twin brother who knows what I am thinking / feeling / enjoying? some ppl just always post in offensive tone as if wanna provoke a war of words. I am probably not the only one who has this feeling, I think ar188 posted something a few days ago ... long gone issue also wanna Korek ..

RM150? Obviously you have not been updating yourself. Don't just look at the price in Speedy Video la .... and I am not talking about the Jack Sparrow version.

By the way, how do you know that is the price of the movie titles that is stoping the bluray adoption in Malaysia? you can speak for all Malaysian? Wa lao!!!, then probably you can suggest to the government another interpretation of 1Malaysia = 1 person to speak for whole Malaysia

Are you from Miri or Bintulu? you sound like the MP who is so generous in donating this and that to others (that is if you know who I am refering to), I don't mind if you wanna give me a free blu-ray player.

By the way, I have not even mentioned about buying every movies in BLU and that I want to watch many movies in BLU!. I think a lot of the BLU owners are buying the movies title selectively only, and by that, I mean on those titles that in their opinion, worth collecting only. And each of these ppl have their on selection criteria, some emphasis on PQ, some AQ, some the movie plot and etc.... and that is what I plan to do, buy selectively. For other titles that I don't want in BLU, I still can buy the DVD.

My sincere apologies to those who intended to read PLASMA and LCD related only post in this thread. Just cannot tahan ... blush.gif
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Bluray adoption worldwide have been slow to date. In malaysia its even worst especially where Jack sparrow dvd cost only Rm5. Now you can argue that there are many people with bluray players and buying bluray movies here in malaysia but that number is really small as compare to the people who still watch dvd. just ask around among your friends and among hundreds of them probably only 1 is into the blu thing. That is hardly 1% of the malaysian population. Say its 5%(which i doubt it) it is still small %. Now i don't speak for the whole malaysian population, if price is not the barrier, why are people not buying up the bluray. why are you only buying a few movies and watch the rest on dvd? if price is not a factor, you would have bought every movies you watch on blu. Now i know what you are thinking that i am a cheap and only watch jack sparrow version, but if anyone here can honestly come out and say he don't watch pirated movies, mkv? Anyone? I suppose not.
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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Sep 1 2009, 08:43 AM)
I agree with you that the price of the blu-ray title is one of the factors that is slowing down the adoption of BLU in this country or worldwide, but it is not necessary the only factor. I know you didn't put it in the exact wordings in your earlier post that this is the only factor but you did implied that in your posting.

As I said, price of the blu-ray title is only one of the factors, IMHO, other factors could be
a) Price of the player - even if the price of the title drop to RM 10, if the player still cost RM 2000 as compare to DVD players that cost as low as RM 80, you think that is going to affect ppl giving up DVD for BLU?

b) The ownership of HDTV. Many families in this country, especially those reside in smaller towns (I mean no offence, and correct me if I am wrong) are still using CRT or RPTV, BLU and DVD has unnoticable difference when watched through those TVs

c) BLU is still new, some don't even know what it is, not even to mention the difference, one famous blogger when asking the Jack Sporrow crew for the blu-ray converted DVD, the crew showed him the whole bag of BLUE XXX titles indeed  doh.gif

I can go on with this list like the number of titles available and etc., but think that I should stop here. This thread is not meant for this topic, and I would post any argument on this topic in this thread anymore  smile.gif
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I fully agreed with you. There is no denying that Bluray is awesome. When DVD first came out, I am one of the early adopters and I go to the extend of importing it from US. I pay like RM150 for an original DVD back then and I still have them in my collections. That goes with the Laser Disc too which I bought a lot yet I don't know where they are now. Now, when I look back, I think its just stupid of me to buy all those disc. Now I really don't know what I should do with them. Keep them yet I will never watch them anymore as I have HD copies of all those movies in HDD. Throw them would be a serious waste of $$$. That is the reason why i don't bother to buy Bluray for collections anymore because collecting technology stuffs has proven to be useless very fast as newer and better things will eventually replace them and they are happening faster then ever. Right now I am more than happy with the sound and pictures quality of the mkv.
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Sep 1 2009, 01:43 PM)
Soon (?) FullHD(1080P) will be replace by 2560 x 1440 (1440P).  1440P is not new and it is around since 2007(?).  brows.gif So, what should we call 1440P? Ultra FullHD?

TV may still upgrade to higher than FullHD in coming years but I believe blu-ray will stay for quite some time cause Sony and Others not yet gain enough profit out of the this Blu-ray.  Even their got better product to replace Blu-ray their will not do so in few years time.  laugh.gif
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2560 x 1440 resolution will never see the light of the day as consumer tv. It will probably thrive as some big commercial display. The reason I am saying that is because even the current crop of 720p vs 1080p appears identicle from most home viewing sitting distance. That means that the currently HD or FUll HD resolution is more than enough and higher res than that is really a waste of money.
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QUOTE(braveheart @ Sep 14 2009, 09:00 PM)
It's all due to production costs.

Plasma manufacturing costs will be too expensive if the size is anything less than 42". So that's why you don't see any small ones from the 20 to 37"

Whereas for LCD production cost it is the direct opposite of Plasma. Only recently these couple of years the production cost has lowered and now you are able to see LCD's bigger than 42" but the cost has not significantly reduced yet. Just comparable but not below yet.
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I am not too sure about the cost too high for smaller plasma screen. I believe its the physical limitations of plasma technology that prohibits the screen size going smaller. Because plasma screens a made up of very small individual gas fill chambers that glow and it just cannot be made too small or else it will not glow bright enough.....just my opinion.

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