the PY800 & PY850 are FullHD plasma, both have 50" also, just not the latest model nia....

DROOLLLL..... 3cm thickness!!!!! my bravia is more than 2x of that!!!! lol

So how do you define "HD ready"?

Stop trying to be a smart ass and misguide people with your wrong info.

The two HDTV resolutions are 1280x720 and 1920x1080.

First, manufacturers use the term "720p display" in their marketing literature loosely and incorrectly. These days, they tend to use it for anything that isn't a "1080p display". So let's put that one to rest first.

The native resolution of a 1366x768 panel is not 720p. If anything, it is 768p, since all input is scaled to the 768 lines. But, of course, 768p is not a resolution that is used in the source material. Only 720p and 1080i/p are used. We should count 480i/p also, for SD material and DVDs.

In the case of plasma, it is fiendishly difficult to make plasma panels with small pixels. This is why 1080p plasmas are so long in coming and why 42 inch plasma panels are 1024x768.

How can 1024x768 be HD, you ask. Many dozens of people have asked that over and over here in the forum. The answer is, the Consumer Electronics Association has decided that any display with at least 720 lines can be called an HDTV and have the logo. There is some basis in fact for this because the human eye is more sensitive to vertical resolution than to horizontal resolution. This has been taken advantage of for years in NTSC because the horizontal resolution of NTSC is really poor. It is also taken advantage of in so-called HD-lite where the video is resampled to 1440x1080 on things like satellite, or maybe even shot with a 1440x1080 camera instead of the 1920x1080 camera you thought the network was using, and you probably didn't even notice.

We have had intense wars about whether that CEA definition is legitimate. Believe what you will, and if you don't think 1024x768 is HD, buy something else. Vote with your wallet. Simple as that.

In the case of LCD, it is difficult to make large pixels. This is one reason why 1366x768 has been used. Also, please do not forget that a lot of HD is in 1080i, so 1920x1080 has to be downscaled to 1366x768. Conversely, 1280x720 has to be upscaled to 1366x768.

To those who say, but wouldn't it be a good idea if the panel were 1280x720 so at least one of the resolutions wouldn't have to be scaled, I say nope! For one thing, you'd be downscaling 1920x1080 all the way down to 1280x720, so you'd lose a lot of resolution on the very format that is supposed to be giving you lots of detail, which is also what most channels broadcast in. For another thing, the extra resolution is really helpful on things like diagonal lines, where you can smooth out the line. If you were in 1280x720 on a 32 or 37 inch display, you'd probably be complaining that the display looks all blocky and pixelated because the pixels are just too big and the diagonal lines have too much stairstepping.

Turns out you can get 1280x720, but you have to go all the way down to 22 and 23 inches, where it works nicely.

Oh, and one other thing that comes up over and over again. The resolution of 1080i is not "540p", it is 1920x1080, dang it. If you were to shoot a still life, you would have 1920x1080 worth of pixels. It's simply that you have to wait 1/30 second rather than 1/60 second to get all the pixels. If it's a live shot. If it's film, it was shot at a mere 24 frames per second, so (inverse telecine, 3:2 pulldown, which is actually reverse 3:2 pulldown) done correctly gives you back your movie.

So, please get your facts right and stop misleading forumers.

People here is only stating the FACT, i think you watch too much of your 32" tiny LCD TV and transformed into LCD fanboy liao.

I was a Sony V series 40" Full HD LCD user and I'm totally amazed of what my new HD X10 can produce - amazing PQ that put my 6k Full HD LCD to shame.

Why else do you think our lightning69 is still a 40 yrs old virgin leh? He has strange fetish towards FULL HD LCD and unable to accept it when others correct his MISLEADING info. See his sour reply...

There are no sub-4k 42" LCDs that can beat the PV80/X10 in terms of color vividness and black levels.

Uncle, I have a 40" Sony Full HD LCD sitting beside my X10 when I first got the unit, because I wanted to do a side by side comparison. Both running Transformers blu-ray, X10 hook up via PS3 and Sony hooked up via Panasonic BD-35, I agree that the Full HD has finer details and the edge of the fonts are more sharp - but that is when I put my eyes 20 cm away from the TV. From a normal human being viewing distance of more than 7 feet, there are also difference, but no more that FULL HD crap, I can see that the plasma shines in displaying black level and color, it is just so much better. That statement was backed up by more than 30 guest because I was having a house warming during that time.

Now, Kuro 50" is not FULL HD, people are willing to fork out 3-4x the price of your "FULL HD LCD" to get it. Are these people ignorant or you?           

Hey guys, anyone got any news on Panasonic's latest plasma?

From the Australian site, can see that P50G10 available in June 09 - P50S1 available in July 09 - P46G10 & P42G10 available in May 09.
So on the Malaysian viera find and compare webpage, there is one 'Coming Soon' space for the G series and 2 slots for S series - but dunno what size. Got any ideas?

Getting frustrated w all the waiting. Don't see why it takes so long for Panasonic to come to Asia while for Samsung, the whole B7000 is already in KL.

Also, anyone know the pricing for the Panasonic L37G10K? Haven't seen anyone offer it.

He told me that plasma can be easy hot, and easy spoile, can not last long. Plasma is old techology, after astro come out with HD, plasma will be a problem, maybe need another device attach on to watch astro. Alot of thing he complain on plasma, untill I'm also influnced by him, so I have to hold my purchase on 42x10k, and get advice from sifu here.

hi bro,

Then who should I trust? Which one to chose, LCD or Plasma? For LCD, which model or brand is ok? Need your advice.

Thanks.

I guess he conveniently forgot to mention the LCD problems: banding, blooming, backlight leaking, ghosting, clouding, poor black levels and fragile panel... 

I guess he conveniently forgot to mention the LCD problems: banding, blooming, backlight leaking, ghosting, clouding, poor black levels and fragile panel... 

Ha ha, we're not demonizing LCD TVs. Just countering your claims that Plasma tech is no fight against LCD.

If you read back, most people ask for advice on TV citing Astro as the main viewing. You, by your own admission, do not even bother to watch Astro on your LCD TV cause of the quality.

We are merely pressing on that Plasma is the best type of flat panel to watch ASTRO. And HD-ready at that so the TV doesn't have to upscale so much. No one disputes Full HD TVs for High Def sources like Blu-Ray.

The core of the issue here is: people want to know what flat panel to buy for A S T R O.

I have LCD TVs at home too. And watching Astro on them is not fun.

Yes, the older model has less reflective screen. I am quite surprised by that

Reflective Screen is my worry when the day my Plasma sat on my TV cabinet. Wow! I saw a mirror!
But, do you remember, CRT TV also like this, but most of us has been watching on it for more than 10 years, why nobody complain?
When you switch on the TV, most of the time, you won't notice the reflection.
Maybe my living room does not has strong light sources, or maybe the beauty of the pictures had already attracted me from the reflection.    (In day time, I just pull my curtain at the door behind me and enjoy the movie, just so simple)
BTW, read from some reviews that some LCD also got reflection screen which also improve the black level.

Hope my information does not misleading anybody. 

we shouldnt blame lcd for the pq instead blame it on ASTRO..

I was worried about reflections too when I was auditioning for my first 42". I have big side windows next where I put my TV, and lights behind my seating position. I was going to buy either the Toshiba or Sharp 42" until I compared them side by side with the PV80. For over 2 hours in the shop I played with all the settings on the LCDs and still couldn't make it look as good or as detailed as the PV80. So I thought, even with the reflections, the PQ is surely worth it.

But lo and behold, the PV80's anti-reflective screen works! No reflections, not even at noon with 5 feet of windows by the side.

I think the PV80's panel glass was probably expensive (it is multi-coated, like spectacles, and also impact resistant), so to bring X10 at such a low price point, probably cut cost there. Unfortunate, since it looks so much like a LG screen now...

And the thing is, the very latest LCD TVs employing clear screen technology are also reflective now. So LCDs having no reflection are no longer true. The high end Sony's and Samsung's are about as reflective as the PV80, though less so than the X10. The PV70 has even less reflection, although color was a little muted.

The PY800 was awesome. I hope the new Full HD plasma is better and not another step backwards.

If to your eyes the motion of the Panny X10 is not smooth, then go audition the LG Plasma and make your decision. Some people are more susceptible to motion judder than other. Since you see the PannyX10 as not smooth, make sure you try the same source when u audition the LG plasma, if it looks better then get that.

BTW, on what source did u see the motion not that smooth when viewing the Panny X10?