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Hardware The Best Compatible RAM for Macbook, upgrade to 4G RAM

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bonzaimy
post Mar 1 2009, 11:01 AM

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The higher the RAM, the faster ur mac?
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post Mar 1 2009, 11:37 AM

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In a way, the higher the RAM memory is the more applications you can running at the same time. You can save the hassle to shut down others heavy duty applications before you launch another heavy duty applications.

Nowdays, C2D processor already can handle multi-tasking very well. Basically RAM allow to pushing the multi-tasking in speed performance.

Some graphic applications can already takes away 100mb once launch a new work area. Depends on the file size & resolution somehow.

And the OS might not require full 4GB ram. Example XP will required max to 3.25GB RAM (if no mistaken).




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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Mar 1 2009, 08:24 AM)
I hv some query. Will there b a huge difference in the performance after upgrading the RAM from 2gb to 4gb? I was thinking of upgrading since long long time ago and i remembered reading from somewhere that there won't be any huge diff so i dropped the idea eventually. Anyway, May i noe what's the cheapest price in the market i can get for those RAM mentioned below?

1) Kingstone
2) Mushkin
3) Corsair
or any other brand and their performance respectively.

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post Mar 2 2009, 08:44 PM

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Quality and Pricing
Apple's prices for RAM and hard drives are outrageously high. Remember, Apple loves profit, not you. Whenever you can buy your Mac with the stock RAM, and upgrade later with third party RAM from a reputable supplier. Apple buys Samsung, Hynix and Micron RAM modules in bulk, just like good third party brands do, there is nothing special about Apple branded memory..

When buying memory, it is generally not advisable to go with the absolute cheapest stuff you can find. Many Mac models have a reputation for being very picky about the quality of RAM they will work with. Low quality memory can and often will cause application crashes, total machine crashes, and data corruption. Do your homework on quality reputation up front, and be advised that while buying generic memory saves you money, you assume a greater risk of trouble later on.

You may also have issues if you use High Density RAM in your Mac (this is the most common form of RAM that can be purchased from eBay). You may find it simply doesn't work with your Mac, the computer only accepts half the amount or it runs much slower. RAM bought from a recommended supplier will not be high density and will work correctly.

It is not recommended to buy RAM faster than your machine will handle. It won't make the machine run any faster (the Mac sets the memory bus speed, not the RAM module), and there may be compatibility issues with the RAM clocking down to the Mac's bus speed. 800 MHz SODIMMs are widely reported to be incompatible with Penryn Core2Duo Macs, which require 667 MHz memory.
http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_RAM


Added on March 2, 2009, 8:45 pmbasically, there's nothing special about apple certified ram...

mac rumors recommend crucial, but this ram is expensive...

This post has been edited by Shin1022: Mar 2 2009, 08:45 PM
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post Mar 3 2009, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Mar 1 2009, 11:37 AM)
In a way, the higher the RAM memory is the more applications you can running at the same time. You can save the hassle to shut down others heavy duty applications before you launch another heavy duty applications.

Nowdays, C2D processor already can handle multi-tasking very well. Basically RAM allow to pushing the multi-tasking in speed performance.

Some graphic applications can already takes away 100mb once launch a new work area. Depends on the file size & resolution somehow.

And the OS might not require full 4GB ram. Example XP will required max to 3.25GB RAM (if no mistaken).
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AFAIK MacOS X only just use 128MB or RAM (Finder). You could check this at Activity Monitor.
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post Mar 3 2009, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Shin1022 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:44 PM)
Quality and Pricing
Apple's prices for RAM and hard drives are outrageously high. Remember, Apple loves profit, not you. Whenever you can buy your Mac with the stock RAM, and upgrade later with third party RAM from a reputable supplier. Apple buys Samsung, Hynix and Micron RAM modules in bulk, just like good third party brands do, there is nothing special about Apple branded memory..

When buying memory, it is generally not advisable to go with the absolute cheapest stuff you can find. Many Mac models have a reputation for being very picky about the quality of RAM they will work with. Low quality memory can and often will cause application crashes, total machine crashes, and data corruption. Do your homework on quality reputation up front, and be advised that while buying generic memory saves you money, you assume a greater risk of trouble later on.

You may also have issues if you use High Density RAM in your Mac (this is the most common form of RAM that can be purchased from eBay). You may find it simply doesn't work with your Mac, the computer only accepts half the amount or it runs much slower. RAM bought from a recommended supplier will not be high density and will work correctly.

It is not recommended to buy RAM faster than your machine will handle. It won't make the machine run any faster (the Mac sets the memory bus speed, not the RAM module), and there may be compatibility issues with the RAM clocking down to the Mac's bus speed. 800 MHz SODIMMs are widely reported to be incompatible with Penryn Core2Duo Macs, which require 667 MHz memory.
http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_RAM


Added on March 2, 2009, 8:45 pmbasically, there's nothing special about apple certified ram...

mac rumors recommend crucial, but this ram is expensive...
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Probably the CAS latency makes a difference,but KVR or Mushkin is good enough,im using both on my merom MB 2GBKVR and 1GBMushkin = 3GB

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post Mar 3 2009, 05:23 PM

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Just to let you know, i just upgraded mine from 1GB to 4GB, using KVR, few days already, running vmware, warcraft 3 frozen throne, safari, mail, ichat, yahoo...etc....no crash
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fed up... i jus complete my order from crucial usa = =....
302RM for 4GB Kit
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post Mar 3 2009, 05:48 PM

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inclusive of shipping? DDR3?

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post Mar 3 2009, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(bernard9090 @ Jan 20 2009, 02:27 AM)
I use Macbook as below spec.

Which Brand and Type of RAM most suitable for this Macbook?

I would like to upgrade it to 4G. Any recommend? You may ignore the price...  smile.gif

  Model Name: MacBook
  Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
  Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
  Number Of Processors: 1
  Total Number Of Cores: 2
  L2 Cache: 3 MB
  Memory: 2 GB
  Bus Speed: 800 MHz
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You can find out more about RAM for your macbook model here at MacSales.com. Basically, they identify according to the year your macbook model was released. (e.g. Late 2007, Early 2008)

I bought a 4GB-kit (a pair of 2GB) from them before, but they're for my iMac. Samsung-branded. So far so good smile.gif
Around RM356 including shipping. Arrived in 3 days.
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post Mar 3 2009, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(MaxLaw @ Mar 3 2009, 09:07 PM)
You can find out more about RAM for your macbook model here at MacSales.com. Basically, they identify according to the year your macbook model was released. (e.g. Late 2007, Early 2008)

I bought a 4GB-kit (a pair of 2GB) from them before, but they're for my iMac. Samsung-branded. So far so good  smile.gif
Around RM356 including shipping. Arrived in 3 days.
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If i install the macbook ram by my own..warranty won't void?
The ram upgrades from machines is very pain sweat.gif
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post Mar 3 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Hongraphics @ Mar 3 2009, 09:45 PM)
If i install the macbook ram by my own..warranty won't void?
The ram upgrades from machines is very pain  sweat.gif
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well shudnt be a problem have to remove the bottom part and replace and make sure your hand is static free
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post Mar 4 2009, 12:31 AM

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apple said, you wont void for self install RAM.
but if u damage your board by pressing too hard, it wont cover for it...


Added on March 4, 2009, 12:32 ammy old macbook pro only running PC2 667 la dude. i do hope it can support DDR3 lol

and yes, inclusive shipping.

This post has been edited by pennykia: Mar 4 2009, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Mar 3 2009, 05:10 PM)
Probably the CAS latency makes a difference,but KVR or Mushkin is good enough,im using both on my merom MB 2GBKVR and 1GBMushkin = 3GB
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What to Buy


Example memory info in System Profiler
Before you purchase memory, you need to know what kind to get. The easiest way to figure this out is to look in the manual that came with your Mac. There will be a section on memory upgrades, advising you exactly what type and speed of memory it needs. You can also check the System Profiler utility: go to the Apple Menu, About This Mac, More Info..., then click on Memory.

Key things to know are:

Speed: sometimes expressed in MHz, but often as a "PCnnn" number where nnn can be a number like 100, 133, 2700, 3200, 4200, 5300, or many others.
The numbers are equivalent:
PC2700 is the same as DDR-333 MHz
PC3200 is the same as DDR-400 MHz
PC2-4300 is the same as DDR2-533 MHz
PC2-5300 and PC2-5400 are the same as DDR2-667 MHz
Type: here you'll see any number of acronyms, including SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, FB-DIMM, and more. You cannot substitute one type for another -- DDR2 is not backwards compatible with DDR for example. There's also ECC (error correcting RAM), which can be installed in recent Power Macs, Mac Pros, and Xserves. Really old systems may even have FPM or EDO RAM.
Format: You will usually see DIMM (desktop full sized modules), or SO-DIMM ('notebook' size modules, however all of the Mac Core/Core2Duo machines use SO-DIMMs)
Pins: different physical sizes of memory chips usually have different numbers of pins. Common numbers for current machines are 184 pins, 200 pins and 240 pins.
CAS Latency: this one isn't quite as important; the right type and speed of memory should work even if the CAS number is slower. Adding memory with faster CAS than your machine supports won't speed anything up, and adding memory with a slower CAS will probably only be a small percentage slower.
Dual Channel: many Apple machines use dual channel memory. In a few cases, this means that memory must be installed in matched pairs. Your computer's manual would say so if that's true. For the majority of cases, unpaired chips will work fine, but matched pairs will result in a slight speed increase (on the order of a few percent).
http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_RAM

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post Mar 4 2009, 08:25 AM

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Kingstone , Mushkin , Corsair
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post Mar 8 2009, 02:32 AM

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Anyone using the owc 4gb ram module for macbook pro? No problem?
Guess i'll buy from them since the ram upgrade from machines is really expensive..
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QUOTE(Hongraphics @ Mar 8 2009, 02:32 AM)
Anyone using the owc 4gb ram module for macbook pro? No problem?
Guess i'll buy from them since the ram upgrade from machines is really expensive..
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Last time i'm using with Macbook late 2008 with spec 2.1Gh, it's no problem using Kingston module ram DDR2 667mhz...it's cheap..

Now i'm using Macbook 2007 with spec 2.2Ghz 800mhz FSB it's can run using DDR2 800mhz? I'm looking DDR2 667 and DDR2 800 price is same...
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QUOTE(armourone @ Mar 4 2009, 08:25 AM)
Kingstone , Mushkin , Corsair
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aint Kingstone, its Kingston

btw, i find Mushkin ram on their rack, i think Mushkin their official vendor hmm.gif
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post Mar 27 2009, 07:51 PM

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Oh yea..the 6gb ram kit from macsales.com is nothing bad bout it beside pricey rite? ;p
Now running 4gb on my 2.4ghz mbp..not bad.
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Mind if I ask self upgrading of the Macbook memory will void Apple Warranty?

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