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Everdying
post Aug 26 2009, 11:27 PM

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why are there 2 ongoing MC threads?
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post Aug 26 2009, 11:38 PM

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Here's your chance to revisit your posts and post on City's

1. First Squad Lineup
2. Prediction on EPL achievements for this season
3. Who will be released or sold
4. Will Hughes be fired before the end of the season
5. Any other?



For the 2009/2010 season

1. First Squad Lineup
Given
Richards, Kolo, Nedum, Lescott
SWP, Barry, Ireland
Tevez, Ade, Robinho

2. Top 5 standing (4th or 5th)

3. Dunne, Petrov

4. No he will not be fired,


Added on August 26, 2009, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 26 2009, 11:27 PM)
why are there 2 ongoing MC threads?
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Added on August 26, 2009, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jan 30 2009, 10:08 PM)
i think thatsss not a thread..maybe its jsut a  discussion lol...
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For completeness this thread, which was started and has some substantial content and not to be lost , will be talk on City's signings and transfers for the season including predictions on City's season's achievements.
We welcome ABC (anybody but City) fans to contribute. sweat.gif

The other thread will be on Match Days and Games - pre and post games review etc. biggrin.gif


This post has been edited by niuchin: Aug 27 2009, 12:01 AM
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post Aug 27 2009, 12:02 AM

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IMHO, i don't think Man City will be the next Chelsea, just because both teams after being bought over and got money to spent doesn't mean both clubs are the same.

Chelsea used the money to buy players like Andriy Shevchenko, Hernán Crespo, Adrian Mutu, just to name a few, who have no experience playing in the English League. And with that, you don't see the names i mention playing for Chelsea this season for various reasons, some wanted to stay but didn't perform at all. Even now, players like Michael Ballack, Ricardo Carvalho, Michael Essien, who are the core of the Chelsea team, need a season or 2 just to "understand" how the English League work, inside and out.

Man City ?

Mark Hughes, with all the money that can match of Chelsea's, didn't follow what Chelsea did. He instead bought players who have been playing in the English League for some time, who knows how the league works, who knows how to play in the English League.

What does Shaun Wright-Phillips, Gareth Barry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Carlos Tevez, Shay Given have in common? Simple, they all played in the English League for good amount of time with various clubs. Any manager in the English League will want the players i mentioned above in their team, no doubt about that for sure, well, if they have the money.

Question raised is that, if all of them can gel up together as a team remains to be seen, but English League ready, 100% ready.
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currently i dun think they have the name and fame to attract those star players playing in different leagues.. that's why they are buying "local players"
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i do think that man city has turned into a rather strong team although some might say that they have not totally gel together. heck, they might even have a good chance to break into the big 4 but i dont think city would lift the premiership this season. it takes much more than loads of talented english club players to win the premiership with more and more teams such as aston villa and everton trying to break into the top 4.
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QUOTE(madfag @ Aug 27 2009, 01:14 AM)
i do think that man city has turned into a rather strong team although some might say that they have not totally gel together. heck, they might even have a good chance to break into the big 4 but i dont think city would lift the premiership this season. it takes much more than loads of talented english club players to win the premiership with more and more teams such as aston villa and everton trying to break into the top 4.
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So far they have played against lesser teams and managed to scrape thru with the results. But the real tests begins when they face any of the Big 4 teams, thats when the examination of the squad really begins. Aston Villa and everton are still good enuff only for a top 6 finish
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Aug 27 2009, 12:02 AM)
IMHO, i don't think Man City will be the next Chelsea, just because both teams after being bought over and got money to spent doesn't mean both clubs are the same.

Chelsea used the money to buy players like Andriy Shevchenko, Hernán Crespo, Adrian Mutu, just to name a few, who have no experience playing in the English League. And with that, you don't see the names i mention playing for Chelsea this season for various reasons, some wanted to stay but didn't perform at all. Even now, players like Michael Ballack, Ricardo Carvalho, Michael Essien, who are the core of the Chelsea team, need a season or 2 just to "understand" how the English League work, inside and out.
Man City ?

Mark Hughes, with all the money that can match of Chelsea's, didn't follow what Chelsea did. He instead bought players who have been playing in the English League for some time, who knows how the league works, who knows how to play in the English League.

What does Shaun Wright-Phillips, Gareth Barry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Carlos Tevez, Shay Given have in common? Simple, they all played in the English League for good amount of time with various clubs. Any manager in the English League will want the players i mentioned above in their team, no doubt about that for sure, well, if they have the money.

Question raised is that, if all of them can gel up together as a team remains to be seen, but English League ready, 100% ready.
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Exactly. Cogently expressed to contrast Chelsea and City differences in approach. MH revealed his blueprint for City's objective.
To foster a winning culture this season he signed top premier players who are winners (Tevez, Ade, Kolo and Lescott) with the right attitude, character, grit (Barry) and mental fortitude. He released, sold or loaned players whom he find lacking. I believed this is the right approach. All the players signed this year are EPL field trialed and proven and ready.

To me this blueprint reflects that City's management (Garry Cook - former head of Nike brand Jordan) and owners are on the right path.
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Aug 27 2009, 12:58 AM)
currently i dun think they have the name and fame to attract those star players playing in different leagues.. that's why they are buying "local players"
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QUOTE(madfag @ Aug 27 2009, 01:14 AM)
i do think that man city has turned into a rather strong team although some might say that they have not totally gel together. heck, they might even have a good chance to break into the big 4 but i dont think city would lift the premiership this season. it takes much more than loads of talented english club players to win the premiership with more and more teams such as aston villa and everton trying to break into the top 4.
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Until recently, City is a top half table team, whereas JM inherited a Chelsea team that was in the Top 4 under Raineiri. We Blue fans will be happy with a top 4 or 5 placing. We are not expected to win the league hence there is no pressure.

Given space and time we will be there once the team gelled. For the record, we have signed top EPL players.
The star players from abroad will follow suit.

This post has been edited by niuchin: Aug 27 2009, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(niuchin @ Aug 26 2009, 11:38 PM)
For completeness this thread, which was started and has some substantial content and not to be lost , will be talk on City's signings and transfers for the season including predictions on City's season's achievements.
We welcome ABC (anybody but City) fans to contribute. sweat.gif

The other thread will be on Match Days and Games -  pre and post games review etc. biggrin.gif
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and this thread can fall under that "etc" category. pls merge these 2 threads. it's damn messy in football lounge alrdy.
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QUOTE(niuchin @ Aug 26 2009, 11:38 PM)
For the 2009/2010 season

1. First Squad Lineup
Given
Richards, Kolo, Nedum, Lescott
SWP, Barry, Ireland
Tevez, Ade, Robinho

2. Top 5 standing (4th or 5th)

3. Dunne, Petrov

4. No he will not be fired,


Added on August 26, 2009, 11:50 pm


Added on August 26, 2009, 11:59 pm

For completeness this thread, which was started and has some substantial content and not to be lost , will be talk on City's signings and transfers for the season including predictions on City's season's achievements.
We welcome ABC (anybody but City) fans to contribute. sweat.gif

The other thread will be on Match Days and Games -  pre and post games review etc. biggrin.gif
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u can ask the mods to merge the threads la.
man city isnt THAT special to have 2 threads biggrin.gif
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Imagine if every team has 2 threads...How messy FL can be
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lets create a 'Will Liverpool be the next "Newcastle" ' thread biggrin.gif
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There's no need for 2 threads. For someone who called me "self-serving" for opening the RM thread, this just smacks of hypocrisy at the highest level. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 27 2009, 05:20 PM)
There's no need for 2 threads. For someone who called me "self-serving" for opening the RM thread, this just smacks of hypocrisy at the highest level. rolleyes.gif
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Troll troll... Later he lepot then u know tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2009, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Aug 27 2009, 12:58 AM)
currently i dun think they have the name and fame to attract those star players playing in different leagues.. that's why they are buying "local players"
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no, those local stars players are proven, like barry, adebayor, cruz, tevez, toure, lescott


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Ops, i taught this was the main Man City thread. blush.gif

Yup, there's no need for 2 threads talking about the same club, even if the discussion is about "Is Club ABC be the next "Club XYZ".

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